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And that's a wrap; markup adjourned.

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"Everyone feels they've given something, but fairly and for the benefit of this country." - Senator Hutchison.

That's it!
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Hutchison thanks Jeff Bingham. She says that he knows more on this than any of us in Washington.   Time for him to ask for a raise...
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Yay for 51D Mascot :)
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"Everyone feels they've given something, but fairly and for the benefit of this country." - Senator Hutchison.

That's it!

Guess the next item is Sen. Nelson's news conference?

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Senator Hutchison:

"I want to make sure we recognise the staff that worked so hard on the bill. Amazing work. (names and then)... Jeff Bingham who knows this issue more than anyone in this capital." :)

OUTSTANDING!

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Here is what happens next to this bill:

http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=22163.msg614614#msg614614

Curious wording about the timing of submitting to the President.  If it's an authorization bill, that's unlikely to get through Congress and to the President that soon.  There's been reports about mid-month being timing for when the Senate authorizing committee might vote to send a bill to the floor.  If it's not a bill, whatever the plan is would still need to be passed in some form by Congress.


Chalk it up to reporter confusion...Jay knows a lot about space, but not so much about the legislative process. The 15th is the date set for Committee Mark-up of a bill, where it will consider any proposed amendments, then vote to report it to the Senate (or not) as amended. Then it gets in line for consideration by the full Senate, presumably via a unanimous consent procedure, since floor time (for debate, etc.) is VERY limited. Then, of course, there's the issue of House action, either on a Senate-passed bill or a version of their own, followed by, if needed, a joint Senate-House Conference to iron out differences, and acceptance of that outcome by both houses after that, so quite a few steps before being "presented" to the President. (There IS the possibility, as well, that, at some point along the line, the White House/President may engage in discussions/negotiations with the Congress, so it is "possible" that the final language will be "acceptable".) But I can tell you, as of this moment, the final draft language of the bill in question has not been completed.
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Does this mean peace can now break out ?  8)
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Does anyone know when we'll see the numbers in the bill?
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Senator Hutchison:

"I want to make sure we recognise the staff that worked so hard on the bill. Amazing work. (names and then)... Jeff Bingham who knows this issue more than anyone in this capital." :)

OUTSTANDING!

One person whose posts I seek out and look forward to. An outstanding NSF member!

SECONDED!!

Nothing short of amazing they got to this point with concensus, and I'm sure we all want to extend our thanks to him for all his help for what I would consider saving HSF, but more particularly: SKILLED JOBS, in the United States.

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Here is what happens next to this bill:

http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=22163.msg614614#msg614614

Curious wording about the timing of submitting to the President.  If it's an authorization bill, that's unlikely to get through Congress and to the President that soon.  There's been reports about mid-month being timing for when the Senate authorizing committee might vote to send a bill to the floor.  If it's not a bill, whatever the plan is would still need to be passed in some form by Congress.


Chalk it up to reporter confusion...Jay knows a lot about space, but not so much about the legislative process. The 15th is the date set for Committee Mark-up of a bill, where it will consider any proposed amendments, then vote to report it to the Senate (or not) as amended. Then it gets in line for consideration by the full Senate, presumably via a unanimous consent procedure, since floor time (for debate, etc.) is VERY limited. Then, of course, there's the issue of House action, either on a Senate-passed bill or a version of their own, followed by, if needed, a joint Senate-House Conference to iron out differences, and acceptance of that outcome by both houses after that, so quite a few steps before being "presented" to the President. (There IS the possibility, as well, that, at some point along the line, the White House/President may engage in discussions/negotiations with the Congress, so it is "possible" that the final language will be "acceptable".) But I can tell you, as of this moment, the final draft language of the bill in question has not been completed.
51D Mascot can provide an inside take, but given Senator Boxer's comments, it doesn't sound like the bill will go the unanimous consent route on the Senate floor.

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I just wanted to say that this bill really excites me. I'm a a second-year aerospace student, and I hope to work in the space industry someday, and this seems like it will do good stuff for NASA with the new (possibly SD?) heavy launch vehicle and continued support for commercial space.

To put it another way, this bill has interested me enough in a Congressional hearing that I found this forum while looking for more information. So even if the bill dies, I got one thing out of it by leading me here.

Now, if you'lle excuse me, I have to return to trying to read every thread in the forum archives at once.
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Welcome to the forum e :)

Stick around, many interesting folks frequent this place.
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Sounds hopeful! Has to be a SD HLV, right?

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Sounds hopeful! Has to be a SD HLV, right?

Implicitly, but not explicitly. They require NASA to use as much existing STS and CxP hardware and contracts as possible (including explicitly ET-94), while not doing the engineering for NASA and selecting a specific option.

That said, the real battle between sidemount and inline begins today...

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Sounds hopeful! Has to be a SD HLV, right?

Not exactly.  the language says it should make use of shuttle and constellation assets "to the greatest extent practicable".  It will be up to the administration and NASA to determine the specifics.

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Welcome to the forum e :)

Stick around, many interesting folks frequent this place.

It certainly seems like it. Is there any sort of typical thing for new members, someplace to acclimatize? I found the acronym page, but...I guess I'm thinking more of trying to get a feel for the culture of the board. I sort of feel like a kid sitting at the adults table for Thanksgiving for the first time...

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Welcome to the forum e :)

Stick around, many interesting folks frequent this place.

It certainly seems like it. Is there any sort of typical thing for new members, someplace to acclimatize? I found the acronym page, but...I guess I'm thinking more of trying to get a feel for the culture of the board. I sort of feel like a kid sitting at the adults table for Thanksgiving for the first time...

There's an introduction thread if you want to check that out - http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=606.0
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Welcome to the forum e :)

Stick around, many interesting folks frequent this place.

It certainly seems like it. Is there any sort of typical thing for new members, someplace to acclimatize? I found the acronym page, but...I guess I'm thinking more of trying to get a feel for the culture of the board. I sort of feel like a kid sitting at the adults table for Thanksgiving for the first time...

Welcome to the site's forum :)

The Q&A sections: http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?board=36.0 are usually a good place to get your feet wet, but feel free to dive in. There's a lot of experts and people who work with the vehicles here, but don't feel intimidated.
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Sounds hopeful! Has to be a SD HLV, right?

Implicitly, but not explicitly. They require NASA to use as much existing STS and CxP hardware and contracts as possible (including explicitly ET-94), while not doing the engineering for NASA and selecting a specific option.

That said, the real battle between sidemount and inline begins today...

Another trade study maybe.....although technically they've already been there with that.

Will be interesting to follow regardless :)
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