Total Members Voted: 55
Voting closed: 08/20/2018 03:29 pm
Got it. I rephrased the question. When I said Mars 2017, I was referring to IAC 2017. Understand why that was not clear.Thanks
The poll is question is ambiguous for me due to the emphasis on EXECUTABLE; its wording implies too many questions for a precise, yes/no answer.- Does SpaceX have a complete and executable plan to achieve IAC 2017's objectives? Yes, I believe it does.- Will SpaceX achieve IAC 2017's objectives? Yes- Will it do so on the timeline outlined at IAC 2017? No, likely not.
Quote from: dglow on 05/15/2018 08:13 pmThe poll is question is ambiguous for me due to the emphasis on EXECUTABLE; its wording implies too many questions for a precise, yes/no answer.- Does SpaceX have a complete and executable plan to achieve IAC 2017's objectives? Yes, I believe it does.- Will SpaceX achieve IAC 2017's objectives? Yes- Will it do so on the timeline outlined at IAC 2017? No, likely not.It appears that many believe this is the correct format for the poll so I changed it. BTW executable to me simply means that it is possible to be achieved. Not that it will be achieved just that it is possible.
- Does SpaceX have a complete and executable plan to achieve IAC 2017's objectives? Yes, I believe it does. - Will SpaceX achieve IAC 2017's objectives including aspirational timeline? Yes. - Will SpaceX do it on the timeline outlined at IAC 2017? No, not likely.
Does SpaceX have a complete and executable plan to achieve IAC 2017's objectives? - Yes, and SpaceX will achieve IAC 2017's objectives including aspirational timeline. - Yes, SpaceX has an executable plan but will NOT do it on the timeline outlined at IAC 2017. - No, SpaceX does not have an executable plan to achieve the goals outlined at IAC 2017 in any reasonable timeline.
UNCLE! The tread morphed into wording of the poll. I changed the poll yet again to "Should the poll be deleted? I voted yes. Please let this poll die a peaceful death. There are more important things to discuss.
Quote from: TomH on 05/15/2018 05:08 amIt would be sensible to bring only the size you need rather than bringing in something larger than required.Very insightful post, thank you.I want to comment on the last sentence only. Given that the plan is a constant upgrade and increase of flights every window too big is probably not really possible. What is not needed now will be needed in 2 or 4 years. It may well be the most efficient option to go as big as possible.
It would be sensible to bring only the size you need rather than bringing in something larger than required.
I am curious as to how much research they have done on Mars agriculture. I would think the most pragmatic approach would be to have a person, or working group, to first gather and consolidate research that has already been done on ISS, at universities, research labs for Ag giants like ADM, etc.>
Quote from: TomH on 05/18/2018 06:43 amI am curious as to how much research they have done on Mars agriculture. I would think the most pragmatic approach would be to have a person, or working group, to first gather and consolidate research that has already been done on ISS, at universities, research labs for Ag giants like ADM, etc.>Musks brother Kimball runs Square Roots, a company which is based on promoting the growing produce in shipping containers. Akin to SNC/ORBITEC's VEGGIE on steroids.
Quote from: docmordrid on 05/18/2018 09:20 amQuote from: TomH on 05/18/2018 06:43 amI am curious as to how much research they have done on Mars agriculture. I would think the most pragmatic approach would be to have a person, or working group, to first gather and consolidate research that has already been done on ISS, at universities, research labs for Ag giants like ADM, etc.>Musks brother Kimball runs Square Roots, a company which is based on promoting the growing produce in shipping containers. Akin to SNC/ORBITEC's VEGGIE on steroids.SpaceX had also bought produce from a local (to them) company called Local Roots, which was doing a similar thing.
Mushrooms are grown in unused tunnels under London UK. They would add protein, taste and variety to a Mars diet.
Quote from: DistantTemple on 05/29/2018 12:16 amMushrooms are grown in unused tunnels under London UK. They would add protein, taste and variety to a Mars diet.The nauseating texture, smell and taste of mushrooms would be enough to put me off of colonizing the City of London, let alone an airless frozen desert. Even watney-taters sound more attractive. Please, agriculturists, find something better and save HSF.
Of all the things you can grow on mars, mushrooms are the worst choice for starting. They don't grow on thin air, they need heaps of organic material that they will feed on, the parts you eat are only a small part of the organism, essentially only the parts needed for reproduction.