Good thing it was an order of magnitude cheaper than that VIF then.
Quote from: Lars-J on 12/03/2015 04:20 pmUser 'jardeon' on Reddit posted this neat panorama of 39A: (source https://www.reddit.com/r/spacex/comments/3v0q5l/panoramic_image_of_lc39a_december_1_2015/ )It does show that the distance between the SpaceX horizontal assembly hangar is not as close to the pad as it appears in many photos.I don't know but 1200' is close for me
User 'jardeon' on Reddit posted this neat panorama of 39A: (source https://www.reddit.com/r/spacex/comments/3v0q5l/panoramic_image_of_lc39a_december_1_2015/ )It does show that the distance between the SpaceX horizontal assembly hangar is not as close to the pad as it appears in many photos.
Especially for a rocket loaded with nearly 3 million pounds of kerosene and liquid oxygen. The VIF at LC41 looks to be more than 1500' distant, for a substantially smaller rocket. - Ed Kyle
I guess everybody else in the business places their integration building much farther away... Oh wait. Aren't you even more concerned here, since solids are in play?
Quote from: Lars-J on 12/03/2015 06:45 pmI guess everybody else in the business places their integration building much farther away... Oh wait. Aren't you even more concerned here, since solids are in play? The Delta IV integration building is more than 3000' away. That isn't the integration building, it is the MST which are always on the pad.
does anyone know what is going on with the curved roof structure seen in that photo at the base of the water tower (yes, I know its further back than that)? Looks like some sort of open ended building, Im assuming its temporary.
Don't be nitpicky about terms, you know exactly what I mean. Vertical integration of payload and SRBs happens in that building (MST). Yes, the 1st and 2nd stages are horizontally assembled further away, but the MST is still where additional integration happens, a critical piece of infrastructure for the Delta IV.
Was there a better option available? Share the VAB with SLS and whatever else uses 39B? Could they have built the HIF further back on the causeway? I've always assumed there were external constraints that limited their choices (leases, environmental impact, logistical requirements.)
Quote from: chrisking0997 on 12/03/2015 04:40 pmdoes anyone know what is going on with the curved roof structure seen in that photo at the base of the water tower (yes, I know its further back than that)? Looks like some sort of open ended building, Im assuming its temporary.Well spotted that man.Looks similar to the tent-with-shipping-container-walls on the landing pad at Vandenberg.
Quote from: sublimemarsupial on 12/03/2015 05:45 pmGood thing it was an order of magnitude cheaper than that VIF then.How do you know that?
I've seen similar sheet metal sided building built for $2-3 million. Are you going to tell me that VIF was built for less than $20 million?
Quote from: sublimemarsupial on 12/03/2015 09:33 pmI've seen similar sheet metal sided building built for $2-3 million. Are you going to tell me that VIF was built for less than $20 million?It is just a sheet metal building that is tall
Quote from: Jim on 12/03/2015 09:34 pmQuote from: sublimemarsupial on 12/03/2015 09:33 pmI've seen similar sheet metal sided building built for $2-3 million. Are you going to tell me that VIF was built for less than $20 million?It is just a sheet metal building that is tallAnd the HIF might cost more than the VIF because it needs a longer travel distance for its cranes. The cranes might cost as much as the buildings. - Ed Kyle
Quote from: Arb on 12/03/2015 07:39 pmQuote from: chrisking0997 on 12/03/2015 04:40 pmdoes anyone know what is going on with the curved roof structure seen in that photo at the base of the water tower (yes, I know its further back than that)? Looks like some sort of open ended building, Im assuming its temporary.Well spotted that man.Looks similar to the tent-with-shipping-container-walls on the landing pad at Vandenberg.No it doesn'tThere is no evidence here that the ends or sides are open.The white lines are not inside the structure. They are bracing for the water tower.The grey objects are not part of the structure. They are in the foreground.We are grasping at straws here.
Quote from: edkyle99 on 12/03/2015 10:56 pmQuote from: Jim on 12/03/2015 09:34 pmQuote from: sublimemarsupial on 12/03/2015 09:33 pmI've seen similar sheet metal sided building built for $2-3 million. Are you going to tell me that VIF was built for less than $20 million?It is just a sheet metal building that is tallAnd the HIF might cost more than the VIF because it needs a longer travel distance for its cranes. The cranes might cost as much as the buildings. - Ed KyleEven if a HIF building cost more, the whole building is a fraction of the cost of one rocket, and money is saved due to faster processing.
Quote from: Jcc on 12/04/2015 12:42 amQuote from: edkyle99 on 12/03/2015 10:56 pmQuote from: Jim on 12/03/2015 09:34 pmQuote from: sublimemarsupial on 12/03/2015 09:33 pmI've seen similar sheet metal sided building built for $2-3 million. Are you going to tell me that VIF was built for less than $20 million?It is just a sheet metal building that is tallAnd the HIF might cost more than the VIF because it needs a longer travel distance for its cranes. The cranes might cost as much as the buildings. - Ed KyleEven if a HIF building cost more, the whole building is a fraction of the cost of one rocket, and money is saved due to faster processing.Faster processing? SLC 41 still hasn't had its annual flight rate surpassed. It will likely see eight launches this year. - Ed Kyle
Also, annual flight rate has not yet been surpassed, but SpaceX has demonstrated two weeks from hardware arrival at SLC-40 to flight, multiple times. Has SLC-41 done so?