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RE: Stardust set for record re-entry
« Reply #1 on: 12/22/2005 04:47 pm »
How fast did Apollo 10 re-entry at?

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« Reply #2 on: 12/22/2005 11:01 pm »
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How fast did Apollo 10 re-entry at?

I don't have that information, sorry.

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RE: Stardust set for record re-entry
« Reply #3 on: 12/23/2005 08:44 am »
According to the Apollo 10 press kit it was 36310 feet per second which is 24747 miles per hour.

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RE: Stardust set for record re-entry
« Reply #4 on: 12/23/2005 12:06 pm »
This probes got your name alllll over it :)

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RE: Stardust set for record re-entry
« Reply #5 on: 12/23/2005 02:48 pm »
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According to the Apollo 10 press kit it was 36310 feet per second which is 24747 miles per hour.

Thanks and wow!

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RE: Stardust set for record re-entry
« Reply #6 on: 12/23/2005 03:41 pm »
That is an amazing speed to re-enter at. What sort of G did Apollo 10's crew have to suffer?

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RE: Stardust set for record re-entry
« Reply #7 on: 12/23/2005 10:39 pm »
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This probes got your name alllll over it :)

Actually you probably didn't realise how right you were when you posted that.  Before the launch of Stardust NASA decided to foster public interest in the mission by asking people to send in  their names to be etched on to a couple of  microchips and attached to the spacecraft.  Mine was one of over a million names sent in which were attached to the spacecraft before launch.

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RE: Stardust set for record re-entry
« Reply #8 on: 12/23/2005 10:40 pm »
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That is an amazing speed to re-enter at. What sort of G did Apollo 10's crew have to suffer?

Maximum G for Apollo 10 during re-entry was 6.78

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This probes got your name alllll over it :)

Actually you probably didn't realise how right you were when you posted that.  Before the launch of Stardust NASA decided to foster public interest in the mission by asking people to send in  their names to be etched on to a couple of  microchips and attached to the spacecraft.  Mine was one of over a million names sent in which were attached to the spacecraft before launch.

That's such a clever idea they should do more often!
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RE: Stardust set for record re-entry
« Reply #10 on: 12/23/2005 11:05 pm »
After 8 days in space that probably felt like a ton of bricks.

No human beings have ever travelled faster than Tom Stafford, John Young, and Gene Cernan. And given that John Young also holds the lunar land speed record at around 12 MPH-Stafford never landed on the moon and Cernan never went that fast with his own LRV-I guess John Watts Young can legitimately claim to be the only human being who is the fastest man alive on two different worlds! :)
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RE: Stardust set for record re-entry
« Reply #11 on: 12/23/2005 11:13 pm »
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SimonShuttle - 23/12/2005  1:06 PM

This probes got your name alllll over it :)

Actually you probably didn't realise how right you were when you posted that.  Before the launch of Stardust NASA decided to foster public interest in the mission by asking people to send in  their names to be etched on to a couple of  microchips and attached to the spacecraft.  Mine was one of over a million names sent in which were attached to the spacecraft before launch.

That's such a clever idea they should do more often!
Well, they did it for the MERs, Deep Impact and New Horizons. So they have done it a few time recently.
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RE: Stardust set for record re-entry
« Reply #12 on: 12/23/2005 11:40 pm »
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After 8 days in space that probably felt like a ton of bricks.

No human beings have ever travelled faster than Tom Stafford, John Young, and Gene Cernan. And given that John Young also holds the lunar land speed record at around 12 MPH-Stafford never landed on the moon and Cernan never went that fast with his own LRV-I guess John Watts Young can legitimately claim to be the only human being who is the fastest man alive on two different worlds! :)

Now there's a quiz question :)

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RE: Stardust set for record re-entry
« Reply #13 on: 12/23/2005 11:51 pm »
Nearly 7G after days of zero G. Damn, that's what I call the right stuff.
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RE: Stardust set for record re-entry
« Reply #14 on: 12/24/2005 12:10 am »
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Nearly 7G after days of zero G. Damn, that's what I call the right stuff.
Well, Expedition 6 beat that with their unexpected ballistical entry when they came home. Six months of zero G and experienced 6(?, pretty sure it was 6)G's due to the wrong entry program being loaded into the computer. Came up about 400 miles short of the expected recovery zone. Caused a bit of tension as it was the first reentry since the loss of Columbia.
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RE: Stardust set for record re-entry
« Reply #15 on: 12/24/2005 12:38 am »
Does not shock me in the slightest about John Young. Has he ever written an auto biography?

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« Reply #16 on: 12/24/2005 01:45 am »
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Does not shock me in the slightest about John Young. Has he ever written an auto biography?

I hope he does if he hasn't. I think he's done it all!

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« Reply #17 on: 12/24/2005 03:39 am »
I'm pretty sure there are many books about him, but not written by him. I'm not sure, I'll see if I can check.

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« Reply #18 on: 12/24/2005 08:14 am »
I can't see anything. I think his book would sell by the bucketload.
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RE: Stardust set for record re-entry
« Reply #19 on: 12/24/2005 01:14 pm »
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SimonShuttle - 23/12/2005  1:06 PM

This probes got your name alllll over it :)

Actually you probably didn't realise how right you were when you posted that.  Before the launch of Stardust NASA decided to foster public interest in the mission by asking people to send in  their names to be etched on to a couple of  microchips and attached to the spacecraft.  Mine was one of over a million names sent in which were attached to the spacecraft before launch.

That's such a clever idea they should do more often!
Well, they did it for the MERs, Deep Impact and New Horizons. So they have done it a few time recently.

They are now asking for names to go on the Dawn spacecraft for it's upcoming mission to the asteroid belt.  If anyone here is interested on getting their name on a spacecraft go to http://www.dawn-mission.org/getInvolved/index.asp

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RE: Stardust set for record re-entry
« Reply #20 on: 12/24/2005 06:56 pm »
Re: Expedition 6 and a 6g re-entry:

Looks like it was closer to 9.
http://www.nasaexplores.com/show2_articlea.php?id=03-067

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They are now asking for names to go on the Dawn spacecraft for it's upcoming mission to the asteroid belt.  If anyone here is interested on getting their name on a spacecraft go to http://www.dawn-mission.org/getInvolved/index.asp

Done and Done! :)

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RE: Stardust set for record re-entry
« Reply #22 on: 12/24/2005 08:07 pm »
Done as well!

I'm pretty sure I put my name down to go on New Horizons too. That kind of stuff is cool.

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« Reply #23 on: 12/24/2005 08:17 pm »
Added my name to Dawn spacecraft too! I also did this for Deep Impact back before its launch Jan. 2004.
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« Reply #24 on: 12/24/2005 10:27 pm »
On the list! :) Thanks for noting this URL.

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« Reply #25 on: 01/06/2006 03:39 pm »
NASA's Stardust spacecraft successfully performed its 18th flight path adjustment. This second-to-last scheduled maneuver puts the spacecraft on the right path to rendezvous with Earth on Jan. 15 (Universal Time), when it will release its sample return capsule.

 

At 1800 Universal Time (10:00 am Pacific Time) on Thursday,   Jan. 5, Stardust fired all eight of its 4.4 newton (1-pound) thrusters for a total of 107 seconds, changing the comet sampler's speed by 2.4 meters per second (about 5.4 miles per hour). The maneuver required 385 grams (0.85 pounds) of hydrazine monopropellant to complete. A final trajectory correction maneuver is scheduled prior to release of the sample return capsule.

 

"It was a textbook maneuver," said Ed Hirst, Stardust deputy mission manager at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif. "After sifting through all the post-burn data, I expect we will find ourselves right on the money."

 

In the early morning hours of January 15, 2006, the Stardust mission returns to Earth after a 4.63 billion kilometer (2.88 billion mile) round-trip journey carrying a precious cargo of cometary and interstellar dust particles. Scientists believe Stardust’s cargo will help provide answers to fundamental questions about the origins of the solar system.

 

Scientists believe in-depth terrestrial analysis of cometary samples will reveal much not just about comets but about the earliest history of the solar system. Locked within the cometary particles is unique chemical and physical information that could be the record of the formation of the planets and the materials from which they were made.

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RE: Stardust set for record re-entry
« Reply #26 on: 01/07/2006 12:03 am »
I am looking forward to this one landing without digging a big hole... I guess we will be getting blow by blow coverage here?

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« Reply #27 on: 01/07/2006 12:09 am »
You can be sure of that.

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« Reply #28 on: 01/09/2006 07:02 am »
So this will be this coming weekend. Not long now.

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« Reply #29 on: 01/14/2006 01:03 pm »
Entered my name for Dawn!

Where will Stardust land?

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Entered my name for Dawn!

Where will Stardust land?

U.S. Air Force Utah Test and Training Range, southwest of Salt Lake City.

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« Reply #31 on: 01/14/2006 04:26 pm »
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Well, Expedition 6 beat that with their unexpected ballistical entry when they came home. Six months of zero G and experienced 6(?, pretty sure it was 6)G's

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Re: Expedition 6 and a 6g re-entry:

Looks like it was closer to 9.
http://www.nasaexplores.com/show2_articlea.php?id=03-067

8.1 g, according to the conclusion of Russian technical commission, which investigated the reason of Soyuz TMA-1 spacecraft's ballistic entry... But it is not a record... For example, Vasily Lazarev and Oleg Makarov have experienced the maximal overload peak (21.3 g) at Soyuz spacecraft's emergency ballistic descent on April 5, 1975 after the Soyuz-U rocket's failure...

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due to the wrong entry program being loaded into the computer

No!... The reason of the transition into ballistic descent mode was the inadequate reaction of spacecraft's descent control block (BUSP-M) to signals from a gyroscope and a measuring instrument of angular speeds...

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« Reply #32 on: 01/14/2006 04:55 pm »
Stardust has passed the Moon and is on route still :)

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RE: Stardust set for record re-entry
« Reply #33 on: 01/14/2006 05:01 pm »
Is it really safe to reenter at such speeds? Shouldn't it slow down first?

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« Reply #34 on: 01/14/2006 05:07 pm »
It will only slow down through the drag of re-entry. Given it's just a small capsule this is the only way to do it in this case, so it has to enter fast and then slow down with the entry interface stage.

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« Reply #35 on: 01/14/2006 05:09 pm »
I will post information as and when I can. So far so good.

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« Reply #36 on: 01/14/2006 08:46 pm »
Refresh these for live data:

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« Reply #37 on: 01/14/2006 11:27 pm »
They are expecting two inches of snow in the area during the night.

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« Reply #38 on: 01/15/2006 03:47 am »
NASA TV live coverage at 4:30am EST.

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« Reply #39 on: 01/15/2006 08:56 am »
Apparently it is windy at the range, expecting it to land slightly further north than planned.

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« Reply #40 on: 01/15/2006 08:57 am »
Stardust Landing Target.

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« Reply #41 on: 01/15/2006 09:00 am »
Seven minutes, fun fun fun... :)

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« Reply #42 on: 01/15/2006 09:03 am »
JPL Control Room.

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« Reply #43 on: 01/15/2006 09:03 am »
Those guys in control look a little fidgety right now.

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« Reply #44 on: 01/15/2006 09:06 am »
Groundtrack. 1 minute to entry.

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RE: Stardust set for record re-entry
« Reply #45 on: 01/15/2006 09:09 am »
Infrared image

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« Reply #46 on: 01/15/2006 09:10 am »
they can't see the drogue.....hrmmm....

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« Reply #47 on: 01/15/2006 09:10 am »
Scratch what I said. The chute has not been been deployed.
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« Reply #48 on: 01/15/2006 09:11 am »
"velocity has not changed, and negative indication of a drogue chute"

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« Reply #49 on: 01/15/2006 09:12 am »
No sign of drogue and no velocity change.  This does not look good.

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« Reply #50 on: 01/15/2006 09:13 am »
" we are noting decelleration" ....hope that means the drogue is open.
Main chute opens momentarily at 10k feet.

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RE: Stardust set for record re-entry
« Reply #51 on: 01/15/2006 09:13 am »
They are noting deceleration.

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« Reply #52 on: 01/15/2006 09:15 am »
whew....that was some excitement.  Chute is open.

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RE: Stardust set for record re-entry
« Reply #53 on: 01/15/2006 09:16 am »
Looks like main chute has deployed and is fully open.

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« Reply #54 on: 01/15/2006 09:16 am »
Main chute has been deployed! The SRC will make a safe landing at the UTTR.
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« Reply #55 on: 01/15/2006 09:19 am »
A lot of happy people at mission control.  Landing in 1.5 minutes.

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RE: Stardust set for record re-entry
« Reply #56 on: 01/15/2006 09:21 am »
Its on the ground. Good work JPL.

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RE: Stardust set for record re-entry
« Reply #57 on: 01/15/2006 09:22 am »
Did it end up snowing at the landing site?

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RE: Stardust set for record re-entry
« Reply #58 on: 01/15/2006 09:23 am »
Landing Confirmed  :)

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RE: Stardust set for record re-entry
« Reply #59 on: 01/15/2006 09:25 am »
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Did it end up snowing at the landing site?
They said earlier that it had cleared up, but was windy. Also they didn't expect the infrared trackers to work if it did, so I'd guess no.

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RE: Stardust set for record re-entry
« Reply #60 on: 01/15/2006 09:33 am »
Recovery helicopter now searching for the capsule.

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RE: Stardust set for record re-entry
« Reply #61 on: 01/15/2006 09:33 am »
No indication from the beacon...is the UHF beacon no longer operating?
They need some HAMs out there doing a proper DF foxhunt... :)

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RE: Stardust set for record re-entry
« Reply #62 on: 01/15/2006 09:37 am »
Infrared of the recovery helicopter.

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« Reply #63 on: 01/15/2006 09:37 am »
Ah, they now are picking up the beacon.  Shouldn't be long now...I hope they send back a photo from the chopper.

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RE: Stardust set for record re-entry
« Reply #64 on: 01/15/2006 09:37 am »
They are picking up the beacon now

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RE: Stardust set for record re-entry
« Reply #65 on: 01/15/2006 09:46 am »
Beacon signal is intermittent right now.  Still searching.

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RE: Stardust set for record re-entry
« Reply #66 on: 01/15/2006 09:52 am »
Well, that was an interesting exchange.  STRATCOM hasn't and won't be providing projected landing coordinates to the search crew?
Did someone else have a radar track on it?

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RE: Stardust set for record re-entry
« Reply #67 on: 01/15/2006 09:53 am »
Vertigo is reporting that they *think* they have it. They are landing to check it out.

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« Reply #68 on: 01/15/2006 09:53 am »
Well, the chopper is landing, they think they may have found it.

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RE: Stardust set for record re-entry
« Reply #69 on: 01/15/2006 09:58 am »
They have found the chute and are landing.

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« Reply #70 on: 01/15/2006 10:01 am »
They think it may be under the chute?  I thought it was windy and the chute was supposed to detatch at landing.

They are downlinking in telemetry; I don't suppose there is a camera on the lander to take pretty pictures... :)

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RE: Stardust set for record re-entry
« Reply #71 on: 01/15/2006 10:04 am »
Got it!

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RE: Stardust set for record re-entry
« Reply #72 on: 01/15/2006 10:04 am »
Well, they found it.

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RE: Stardust set for record re-entry
« Reply #73 on: 01/15/2006 10:04 am »
They have the capsule.

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RE: Stardust set for record re-entry
« Reply #74 on: 01/15/2006 10:14 am »
The second recovery helicopter is on it's way.

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RE: Stardust set for record re-entry
« Reply #75 on: 01/15/2006 10:18 am »
SRC has been reported to be intact.
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RE: Stardust set for record re-entry
« Reply #76 on: 01/15/2006 10:32 am »
Capsule bounced 3 times and landed on it's side.

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RE: Stardust set for record re-entry
« Reply #77 on: 01/15/2006 10:50 am »
The capsule has been bagged and placed into it's transport cradle.

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RE: Stardust set for record re-entry
« Reply #78 on: 01/15/2006 10:54 am »
The capsule is now being loaded into the helicopter.

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RE: Stardust set for record re-entry
« Reply #79 on: 01/15/2006 11:00 am »
The helicopter has taken off and is now on it's way to the clean room.

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« Reply #80 on: 01/15/2006 11:14 am »
And it has landed at Michael Army Air Field!
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RE: Stardust set for record re-entry
« Reply #81 on: 01/15/2006 11:21 am »
First views from the airfield and a view of the cleanroom.

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RE: Stardust set for record re-entry
« Reply #82 on: 01/15/2006 02:06 pm »
Here are the first pictures from the recovery site and also views of the capsule in the clean room.

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« Reply #83 on: 01/15/2006 02:27 pm »
Congrats, JPL/NASA,

very nice work... was a little worried back there with the drouge, but it work out just prefectly.

Amazing, seven years and worked like a charm... these Capsule designs are very flexible.. that was one hot reentry..

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« Reply #84 on: 01/15/2006 04:06 pm »
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Congrats, JPL/NASA,

very nice work... was a little worried back there with the drouge, but it work out just prefectly.

Amazing, seven years and worked like a charm... these Capsule designs are very flexible.. that was one hot reentry..

Yeah I thought we were going to see another Genesis type crash landing for a few minutes there.

More photographs from the recovery and inside the cleanroom.

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« Reply #86 on: 01/15/2006 07:32 pm »
Great result for all concerned. Now let's see what results they get from this probe.

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« Reply #87 on: 01/15/2006 09:40 pm »
Thanks for all the images.

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« Reply #88 on: 01/16/2006 11:42 pm »
The PBS News Hour has a 8 minute feature on the Stardust recovery tonight.  Just about to air still in some East Coast markets, and in time zones west.

The audio of the story is available online at:
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/science/

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« Reply #89 on: 01/18/2006 08:31 pm »

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« Reply #90 on: 01/19/2006 03:25 pm »
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