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Discussion Thread for DART launch.

NSF Threads for DART : Mission thread / Launch thread

Successful launch November 23, 2021 at 10:21pm PST (0621 UTC on Nov. 24) on reused Falcon 9 (booster 1063-3) from Vandenberg.  Successful booster landing on OCISLY.



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April 11, 2019
RELEASE C19-009

NASA Awards Launch Services Contract for Asteroid Redirect Test Mission
NASA has selected SpaceX in Hawthorne, California, to provide launch services for the agency’s Double Asteroid Redirection Test (DART) mission, the first-ever mission to demonstrate the capability to deflect an asteroid by colliding a spacecraft with it at high speed – a technique known as a kinetic impactor.

The total cost for NASA to launch DART is approximately $69 million, which includes the launch service and other mission related costs.

The DART mission currently is targeted to launch in June 2021 on a Falcon 9 rocket from Space Launch Complex 4E at Vandenberg Air Force Base in California. By using solar electric propulsion, DART will intercept the asteroid Didymos’ small moon in October 2022, when the asteroid will be within 11 million kilometers of Earth.

NASA’s Launch Services Program at Kennedy Space Center in Florida will manage the SpaceX launch service. The DART Project office is located at the Johns Hopkins Applied Physics Laboratory in Laurel, Maryland, and is managed by the Planetary Missions Program Office at Marshall Space Flight Center in Huntsville, Alabama, for NASA’s Planetary Defense Coordination Office in Washington.

For more information about NASA programs and missions, visit:

https://www.nasa.gov

https://www.nasa.gov/press-release/nasa-awards-launch-services-contract-for-asteroid-redirect-test-mission

Falcon Heavy soars; SpaceX lands critical NASA double asteroid redirect launch - By Chris Gebhardt

https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2019/04/falcon-heavy-spacex-nasa-asteroid-redirect/

https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight/status/1116766945972576256
« Last Edit: 05/31/2022 01:40 am by gongora »

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : NASA DART : June 2021
« Reply #1 on: 04/11/2019 09:25 pm »
Whoa.  Only $69 million.

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : NASA DART : June 2021
« Reply #2 on: 04/11/2019 09:31 pm »
Nice.

Okay sorry. Bad joke.

DART Page

https://www.nasa.gov/planetarydefense/dart
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : NASA DART : June 2021
« Reply #3 on: 04/11/2019 09:34 pm »
https://twitter.com/wordsmithfl/status/1116453088477491204

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SpaceX President & COO Gwynne Shotwell:
 
“SpaceX is proud to continue our successful partnership with NASA in support of this important interplanetary mission."

https://twitter.com/sciguyspace/status/1116453387921444864

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SpaceX's Gwynne Shotwell: "SpaceX is proud to continue our successful partnership with NASA ... This award underscores NASA’s confidence in Falcon 9’s capability to perform critical science missions while providing the best launch value in the industry.”
« Last Edit: 04/11/2019 09:36 pm by FutureSpaceTourist »

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : NASA DART : June 2021
« Reply #4 on: 04/11/2019 09:45 pm »
The full SpaceX statement to the media:

NASA has awarded SpaceX the Double Asteroid Redirection Test (DART) Mission. Additional information on the award can be found here, and the following statement can be attributed to Gwynne Shotwell, President and Chief Operating Officer at SpaceX:

 

“SpaceX is proud to continue our successful partnership with NASA in support of this important interplanetary mission. This award underscores NASA’s confidence in Falcon 9’s capability to perform critical science missions while providing the best launch value in the industry.”

 

SpaceX has a record-breaking, proven operational cadence, demonstrating its rapid, responsive, and reliable launch capability. To date, Falcon 9 has completed 68 launches, including two NASA LSP missions Jason-3 and TESS, 16 Dragon Cargo Resupply Services missions to and from the International Space Station, and this year Falcon 9 will help return human spaceflight capabilities to the United States for the first time since the Space Shuttle program ended in 2011. In addition to DART, SpaceX’s future launch manifest includes NASA LSP missions SWOT and Sentinel-6A.

 
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : NASA DART : June 2021
« Reply #5 on: 04/12/2019 12:00 am »
https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/1116451957844193280

$68 million?

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NASA's total launch services budget for the MER-B campaign is approximately $68 million dollars.
http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewpr.html?pid=3407

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : NASA DART : June 2021
« Reply #6 on: 04/12/2019 12:12 am »
https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/1116451957844193280

$68 million?

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NASA's total launch services budget for the MER-B campaign is approximately $68 million dollars.
http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewpr.html?pid=3407

Accounting for inflation, that translates to ~$102M.

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : NASA DART : June 2021
« Reply #7 on: 04/12/2019 02:49 am »
Is this a Delta II class mission? I don't recall seeing the specs.

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : NASA DART : June 2021
« Reply #8 on: 04/12/2019 02:51 am »
Is this a Delta II class mission? I don't recall seeing the specs.

Because it's probably a thrown bone mission for Lucy, regardless more mission for falcon!

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : NASA DART : June 2021
« Reply #9 on: 04/12/2019 10:36 am »
This article from 2017 says:
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DART’s designers plan for it to rideshare on a commercial rocket, meaning it could be carried to space as an additional payload on any number of regularly scheduled launches.
I'm guessing that's not the case anymore? Or is it still planned to be a rideshare?

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : NASA DART : June 2021
« Reply #10 on: 04/12/2019 11:23 am »
This article from 2017 says:
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DART’s designers plan for it to rideshare on a commercial rocket, meaning it could be carried to space as an additional payload on any number of regularly scheduled launches.
I'm guessing that's not the case anymore? Or is it still planned to be a rideshare?

This recent presentation says

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* NASA will procure launch services for DART through NLS; LV selection is in process
  ─ DART will have dedicated LV

https://www.cosmos.esa.int/documents/1786001/1845930/4.+DART+Overview+%28A.+Cheng%29.pdf/da9935f1-74b7-9316-e9af-0fb2cc63197c

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : NASA DART : June 2021
« Reply #11 on: 04/12/2019 11:32 am »
This article from 2017 says:
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DART’s designers plan for it to rideshare on a commercial rocket, meaning it could be carried to space as an additional payload on any number of regularly scheduled launches.
I'm guessing that's not the case anymore? Or is it still planned to be a rideshare?

https://spacenews.com/nasa-awards-dart-launch-contract-to-spacex/

Quote from: Jeff Foust
DART originally planned to launch as a rideshare on the commercial launch of a geostationary orbit satellite. The mission switched several months ago to a dedicated launch. NASA did not disclose if DART, which weighs about 500 kilograms, will share the launch vehicle with another spacecraft.

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : NASA DART : June 2021
« Reply #12 on: 04/12/2019 01:40 pm »
https://spacenews.com/nasa-awards-dart-launch-contract-to-spacex/

Quote from: Jeff Foust
DART originally planned to launch as a rideshare on the commercial launch of a geostationary orbit satellite. The mission switched several months ago to a dedicated launch. NASA did not disclose if DART, which weighs about 500 kilograms, will share the launch vehicle with another spacecraft.

How many ground spares does Iridium have?  This might be an opportunity for them to get a ride for a couple of their birds for cheap.

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : NASA DART : June 2021
« Reply #13 on: 04/12/2019 01:50 pm »
Launch window opens on 15 June 2021

2001 CB21 flyby on 6 March 2022, Didymos impact on 5 Oct 2022

https://www.cosmos.esa.int/documents/1786001/1845930/4.+DART+Overview+%28A.+Cheng%29.pdf
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : NASA DART : June 2021
« Reply #14 on: 04/12/2019 03:30 pm »

$68 million?

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NASA's total launch services budget for the MER-B campaign is approximately $68 million dollars.
http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewpr.html?pid=3407

Mind you, for that historic mission that's just launch services alone.

For DART, total mission cost is being quoted as $69 million, not just launch costs. That $69m is spacecraft + launch vehicle + mission assurance / addons.

Anyone have numbers on expected spacecraft costs, to backfill the launch vehicle price?

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : NASA DART : June 2021
« Reply #15 on: 04/12/2019 03:45 pm »
For DART, total mission cost is being quoted as $69 million, not just launch costs. That $69m is spacecraft + launch vehicle + mission assurance / addons.

That is not the total mission cost.  It's the cost to launch the mission, which includes some money that doesn't go to SpaceX.

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : NASA DART : June 2021
« Reply #16 on: 04/12/2019 03:49 pm »
For DART, total mission cost is being quoted as $69 million, not just launch costs. That $69m is spacecraft + launch vehicle + mission assurance / addons.

No... $69m was listed as the budget for "launch services" which does not include the spacecraft.

I think that if an asteroid mission was possible for a total cost of $69m, there would already be a heck of a lot more asteroid missions out there.

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The total cost for NASA to launch DART is approximately $69 million, which includes the launch service and other mission related costs.
Notice no mention of the spacecraft.
« Last Edit: 04/12/2019 03:51 pm by birdman »

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : NASA DART : June 2021
« Reply #17 on: 04/12/2019 03:59 pm »
This article indicates an estimated project cost of $250 million with a rideshare.

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That translates to significant cost savings and keeps DART inexpensive for a planetary mission at around $250 million, Reed says.
https://aerospaceamerica.aiaa.org/features/course-corrector/

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : NASA DART : June 2021
« Reply #18 on: 04/12/2019 04:02 pm »
https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/1116451957844193280

$68 million?

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NASA's total launch services budget for the MER-B campaign is approximately $68 million dollars.
http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewpr.html?pid=3407

He said a decade ago, not two decades ago. Back in early 2000 Delta-II's price was low due to USAF using it for GPS launches, after USAF stopped using it its price rises over $100M, for example in 2012 NASA bought 3 Delta-II for $412 million

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : NASA DART : June 2021
« Reply #19 on: 04/12/2019 04:20 pm »
What kind of orbit would Falcon 9 launch this into? I'm guessing it was supposed to be GTO since the original plan was to launch it along with a geostationary sat, but now it's launching from VAFB, so I don't know.
« Last Edit: 11/04/2019 04:18 pm by scr00chy »

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