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Shelby. mentions 68 consecutive EELV missions, not just cause he's from Alabama, etc. Competition "typically" is good but launch market is not typical. Competition is not the problem, buying EELV en bloc will make a greater savings.
Supposedly represents a party that stands for free market economy, evedence notwithstanding.
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Chairman and Mr. Gass - who looks buoyant!
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Gass claims his rockets are the only rockets capable of carrying out the sat launches reliably.
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ULA looking at dual sat launches like Ariane.
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ULA expanding customer base.
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Re: March 5, 2014 Hearing on National Security Space Launch Programs (Musk and Gass)
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Quote from: Chris Bergin on 03/05/2014 02:12 pm
Gass claims his rockets are the only rockets capable of carrying out the sat launches reliably.
Gass seems to be heavily implying that competition will increase costs because of oversupply.
(I keep coughing on some of the stuff he's saying...)
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Gass was impressive.
Elon up...
5 billion dollars of orders on SpaceX's books.
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Elon Musk is going direct for the throat picking on ULA being overpriced.
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"You're paying too much" - paraphrased. Notes monopoly etc.
ULA have one billion dollars fixed cost, even if they don't launch!
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Elon is not mincing his words
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SpaceX would have saved 11.6 billion dollars, had they had the EELV contacts.
Hope to complete certification this year.
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Re: March 5, 2014 Hearing on National Security Space Launch Programs (Musk and Gass)
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Quote from: Chris Bergin on 03/05/2014 02:12 pm
Gass claims his rockets are the only rockets capable of carrying out the sat launches reliably.
You can only use that argument for a limited amount of time. Once SpaceX launches reliably 10 times in a row (the Falcon 9 version 1.1), it stops being an argument.
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RD-180 Made in Russia. Yep, Musk went there.
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Elon jabbing Atlas V over not being fully American - and references the Ukrainian situation.
Holy crap, he's really going after them!
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Elon Musk mentioning that their rockets are 100% American and ULA uses pieces built in Ukraine and depends on Putin's permission.
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Well there's my article for today!
Scott Pace now up:
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Key message is that Musk is asking for a reexamination of the ULA block purchase.
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Wow.. Musk and Gass will be cross examining each other. Holy crap.
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Here come the Russia questions!
Two years of safety stock in country on the engines. We are not at any risk of supporting national needs - Gass.
Business deal with NPO - have all the blueprints and specs, written in Russian and translated. Can build the engines in house.
There were things the Russians were doing that our textbooks said were impossible.
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