Boom!!!https://twitter.com/blueorigin/status/1593802561139654656
Quote from: DanClemmensen on 11/14/2022 05:15 pmThe Orion CM (i.e., capsule) does not sit exposed. It is hidden inside the LAS, which acts as a fairing and which is jettisoned like a fairing.Yes, most(?) crewed spacecraft sit "naked" atop the LV. I was just pointing out that this is not universal.I stand corrected, never noticed LAS fairing which encloses capsule. NB this fairing and capsule stay attach during abort, then separate after abort engines have burnt out.
The Orion CM (i.e., capsule) does not sit exposed. It is hidden inside the LAS, which acts as a fairing and which is jettisoned like a fairing.Yes, most(?) crewed spacecraft sit "naked" atop the LV. I was just pointing out that this is not universal.
Yes, most(?) crewed spacecraft sit "naked" atop the LV. I was just pointing out that this is not universal.
Quote from: DanClemmensen on 11/14/2022 05:15 pmYes, most(?) crewed spacecraft sit "naked" atop the LV. I was just pointing out that this is not universal.Out of curiosity (and counting only launches with crew on-board):Crewed orbital vehicles that do/did not launch enclosed within a fairing:Mercury - 4 orbital launchesGemini (no capsule abort, ejection seat only) - 10 orbital launchesSTS Orbiter - 140 orbital launches (including STS-51-L)Dragon 2 - 8 orbital launchesTotal unfaired: 162Crewed orbital vehicles that launch(ed) enclosed within a fairing with abort capability:Apollo - 15 orbital launchesVostok - 6Voskhod - 2Soyuz - 149 (including T-10a which used that faired abort system, and 18a & MS-10 which aborted later)Shenzhou - 9Total faired: 181Surprisingly close, but faired crew abort systems just about edge the win. For capsules, faired abort systems dominate by a wide margin though.
Blue Origin appears to be conducting New Glenn fairing testing at the KSC turn basin today!nsf.live/spacecoast
Huge!
Blue Origin is wrapping up taking a New Glenn payload fairing halve for a swim at the KSC turn basin this morning. It appears that Blue plans to recover the fairing halves from the water similar to SpaceX.nsf.live/spacecoast
QuoteHuge!https://twitter.com/nextspaceflight/status/1599827071060283392QuoteBlue Origin is wrapping up taking a New Glenn payload fairing halve for a swim at the KSC turn basin this morning. It appears that Blue plans to recover the fairing halves from the water similar to SpaceX.nsf.live/spacecoast
Do you think the fairing would be able to fly down to the ocean like Falcon 9 does?
Quote from: Matthew Ak43 on 12/05/2022 09:16 pmDo you think the fairing would be able to fly down to the ocean like Falcon 9 does?I think so. Same parafoil design and picked up from the sea after splashdown.
It is still incomprehensible that anyone would lable this "Huge!"Blue has a long, long way to go, and even "following" by copying SpaceX will have daunting challenges.
Blue Origin hard at work again early this morning as they test with a New Glenn fairing at the KSC turning basin nsf.live/spacecoast
Quote from: FutureSpaceTourist on 12/05/2022 05:05 pmQuoteHuge!https://twitter.com/nextspaceflight/status/1599827071060283392QuoteBlue Origin is wrapping up taking a New Glenn payload fairing halve for a swim at the KSC turn basin this morning. It appears that Blue plans to recover the fairing halves from the water similar to SpaceX.nsf.live/spacecoastBut the New Glenn fairing is missing one part of the Falcon fairing "magic sauce" for ocean surface recovery.The Falcon fairing has a larger diameter than the second stage.That means that the back end, where it attaches to the second stage, necks down.This gives each fairing half the shape of a boat.The New Glenn fairing is the same diameter as the rocket.That leaves the back end open.It is shown this way in Blue's drawings of the fairing in flight, where there are graphic cut-outs to see the payload.That makes this fairing unsuitable for floating, unless they add something.Perhaps an inflatable transom?Maybe just a truncated half cone around the payload adapter.Notice that the posted photos do not show the back end of the fairing being lifted by the crane.It is still incomprehensible that anyone would lable this "Huge!"Blue has a long, long way to go, and even "following" by copying SpaceX will have daunting challenges.
Quote from: ZachS09 on 12/05/2022 11:15 pmQuote from: Matthew Ak43 on 12/05/2022 09:16 pmDo you think the fairing would be able to fly down to the ocean like Falcon 9 does?I think so. Same parafoil design and picked up from the sea after splashdown.Yeah, but how WILL they make it seaworthy?(We don’t need more guesses. We need to wait until Blue deigns to show us.)
Quote from: Comga on 12/05/2022 08:13 pmIt is still incomprehensible that anyone would lable this "Huge!"Blue has a long, long way to go, and even "following" by copying SpaceX will have daunting challenges.I think you are misinterpreting the comment. I interpreted “Huge” as the size of the fairing, not the occurrence of the test event.
Potential fairing recovery testing is the latest sign of progress by Blue Origin on New Glenn. The company has also possibly acquired a facility at Port Canaveral formerly used by SpaceX for fairing processing.By Justin Mooney (@OGNovuh):
Blue Origin conducts fairing testing amid quiet New Glenn progresswritten by Justin MooneyDecember 6, 2022 Blue Origin has quietly been making progress on its orbital New Glenn vehicle, evident by new hardware and test sightings.
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