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Discussion Thread for launch of Eutelsat's Hotbird 13G.

NSF Threads for Hotbird 13G : Discussion

November 3, 2022 at 1:22am EDT (05:22 UTC) on Falcon 9 booster 1067-7 from CCSFS SLC-40 to GTO

Built by Airbus on the new Eurostar Neo platform.  4500kg.



First Airbus Eurostar Neo satellite ready for shipment to launch site

HOTBIRD 13F to offer EUTELSAT state of the art broadcast capability

With its twin HOTBIRD 13G, both satellites will broadcast over 1,000 television channels across Europe, Northern Africa and the Middle East

Toulouse, 13 September 2022 – The first of Airbus’ next generation geostationary Eurostar Neo satellites is ready to be shipped to Cape Canaveral for launch preparations.

HOTBIRD 13F will inaugurate the Eurostar Neo satellite era, while still benefiting from Airbus' strong heritage of 80 Eurostar family satellites already launched. It will be positioned at 13 degrees east along with its twin satellite, HOTBIRD 13G, also built by Airbus and being launched later this year.

The Eurostar Neo pair feature increased payload capacity, more efficient power and thermal control systems than previous generation and will replace three Eutelsat satellites currently in orbit at this location.

Francois Gaullier, Head of Telecommunications & Navigation Systems at Airbus said: “Eutelsat has been a valued partner for many Airbus satellite firsts from pioneering the previous Eurostar E3000 generation, to electric orbit raising or the first fully flexible payload – and now with our first Eurostar Neos. This new platform has been developed thanks to the support of ESA, showing the power of partnerships between industry, agencies and commercial players in Europe.”

The HOTBIRD 13F and 13G satellites will both have more than two tons of payload, spacecraft power of 22 kW and yet a launch mass of only 4,500 kg, thanks to Electric Orbit Raising. They will enhance Eutelsat’s ability to serve its 135 million customers across Europe, North Africa and the Middle East.

Now there's a filing for LEOP ground station support of the other Hotbird sat, NET November 7.  Again no launch details given.

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Intelsat expects the LEOP period to last approximately 150 days.

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Intelsat expects the LEOP to last approximately 165 days.

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Is there a good ref for there being 2 Eutelsat launches on Falcon 9?

Or is this some deduction like there is no room on remaining Ariane 5 flights and if they are using SpaceX once ... and /or other launch providers provide more than 2 months notice of a launch and / or ref for expendable launch Nov and / or ....

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Who else could be launching the Eutelsat birds this year?  There might be three, not just two.
« Last Edit: 09/13/2022 03:29 pm by gongora »

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SFN confirms this is also switching to a Falcon 9 launch from SLC-40 at the Cape, NET November 2022.

Also "The Falcon 9’s first stage booster will land on a drone ship in the Atlantic Ocean."
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https://twitter.com/GewoonLukas_/status/1580546879368011776

https://twitter.com/AirbusSpace/status/1580545283586330624

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The Airbus Beluga "F-GSTC" has meanwhile arrived at Cape Canaveral.
With the heavy container, however, she can only hop because the range is too small.

Toulouse->Lajes Field/Azores->Gander->Portsmouth->Orlando (why?)->Shuttle Landing Facility

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/f-gstc
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Likely using this licence

1679-EX-ST-2022
SpaceX Mission 1631 from LC-40 at CCAFS or LC-39A at KSC
Launching east
ASDS North  28  26  10   West  73  41  32
NET end of October
Launches Seen: Atlas V OA-7, Falcon 9 Starlink 6-4, Falcon 9 CRS-28,

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The Airbus Beluga "F-GSTC" has meanwhile arrived at Cape Canaveral.
With the heavy container, however, she can only hop because the range is too small.

Toulouse->Lajes Field/Azores->Gander->Portsmouth->Orlando (why?)->Shuttle Landing Facility
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Guess they fueled up at Orlando. Don't think there is commercial jet fuel available at the Shuttle Landing Facility.

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October 16 update:
https://www.launchphotography.com/Launch_Viewing_Guide.html
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A Falcon 9 will launch the Hotbird 13G communications satelite for Eutelsat from pad 40 on November TBD. A Falcon 9 from pad 40 will launch the HAKUTO-R lunar lander for iSpace on November TBD. The first stage will land back at the Cape about eight minutes after launch. And a Falcon 9 from pad 39A will launch the Dragon CRS-26 resupply mission to the ISS on November 18 around 4 or 5 p.m. EST.
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it mean 3 day after eutelsat 10B  will be launch >?

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The Airbus Beluga "F-GSTC" has meanwhile arrived at Cape Canaveral.
With the heavy container, however, she can only hop because the range is too small.

Toulouse->Lajes Field/Azores->Gander->Portsmouth->Orlando (why?)->Shuttle Landing Facility
<snip>
Guess they fueled up at Orlando. Don't think there is commercial jet fuel available at the Shuttle Landing Facility.
Volga Dnepr Airlines has always flown direct to and from the Shuttle Landing Facility for OneWeb, without stop in Orlando. Long distances, they definitely had to refuel.
Who knows, maybe the crew's hotel is in Orlando.  ;)
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https://www.airbus.com/en/newsroom/press-releases/2022-10-airbus-beluga-delivers-airbus-satellite-to-kennedy-space-center

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Airbus Beluga delivers Airbus satellite to Kennedy Space Center
 
First Airbus Eurostar Neo satellite successfully launched just hours before its twin arrived at KSC
Second Eutelsat telecommunications satellite to join its twin in orbit within a month


A special aircraft landed at the Kennedy Space Center at Cape Canaveral in Florida this weekend: the Airbus BelugaST (A300-600ST). It delivered the Airbus-built HOTBIRD 13G satellite for Eutelsat. This happened a few hours after its twin, HOTBIRD 13F, was successfully launched by a SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket.

The spacecraft are the first members of the new “Eurostar Neo” family of Airbus telecommunications satellites, based on a next-generation platform and technologies developed with the support of the European Space Agency (ESA), and others, including the Centre National d’Etudes Spatiales (CNES) and the UK Space Agency (UKSA).

This milestone also marks the first time since 2009 that the Beluga has visited the USA – when it transported the International Space Station European module “Tranquility”. For this latest mission, the Beluga used 30% Sustainable Aviation Fuel (SAF) for its departure flight from Toulouse – reflecting Airbus’ decarbonisation ambitions.

“It is a true honour to consecutively showcase two satellites for our customer Eutelsat: two pieces of European technology at the iconic Kennedy Space Center,” said Jean-Marc Nasr, Head of Space Systems at Airbus. “The ability of Airbus to field an autonomous European solution is underscored by the transportation of our satellites in the unique Beluga aircraft – a true example of pan-Airbus synergies!”

Once they reach their orbital position, these two satellites, with more efficient power and thermal control systems than their predecessors, will be able to broadcast more than 1,000 television channels across Europe, Northern Africa and the Middle East. They will also enhance Eutelsat’s ability to provide connectivity for more than 135 million people, as they replace three Eutelsat satellites currently in orbit.

With the advent of the new BelugaXL, based on the larger A330-200 platform, the existing BelugaST fleet is progressively being made available for outsized freight transport services globally. Since the launch of the new Airbus Beluga Transport service in January, the BelugaST has performed missions for various customers worldwide.
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https://twitter.com/airbusspace/status/1581969305801031682

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A special aircraft landed at the Kennedy Space Center at Cape Canaveral, Florida last weekend: the @Airbus #Beluga.
It delivered the Airbus-built HOTBIRD 13G satellite for @Eutelsat_SA.
Learn more:
airbus.com/en/newsroom/pr…

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Launch photography has this launch before Galaxy 31 32 which has lost its 5 Nov date
https://www.launchphotography.com/Launch_Viewing_Guide.html

4-37 also gone, so looks like this is next after 4-36 at pad 40.

Intelsat requested 180 days STA commencing 7 Nov. Probably not ready until then?

18 day gap for pad 40? Nothing ready to launch?

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Launch photography has this launch before Galaxy 31 32 which has lost its 5 Nov date
https://www.launchphotography.com/Launch_Viewing_Guide.html

4-37 also gone, so looks like this is next after 4-36 at pad 40.

Intelsat requested 180 days STA commencing 7 Nov. Probably not ready until then?

18 day gap for pad 40? Nothing ready to launch?

First come, first launch, or what?  ;)
Nilesat 301 took 25 days from unloading to launch. That would mean a launch for Hotbird 13G around November 9.

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Cross-post; my bold:
https://www.launchphotography.com/Launch_Viewing_Guide.html [October 18 update]
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FALCON 9

The next SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket will launch more Starlink satellites from pad 40 on October 20 at 10:50 a.m. EDT or later. A Falcon Heavy will launch USSF-44 for the U.S. Space Force from pad 39A on late October, in the late morning EDT. The side boosters will land back at the Cape about eight minutes after launch. A Falcon 9 will launch the Hotbird 13G communications satellite for Eutelsat from pad 40 on November TBD. A Falcon 9 will launch the Intelsat Galaxy 31 & 32 communication satellites from pad 40 on November TBD. A Falcon 9 from pad 40 will launch the HAKUTO-R lunar lander for iSpace on November TBD. The first stage will land back at the Cape about eight minutes after launch. And a Falcon 9 from pad 39A will launch the Dragon CRS-26 resupply mission to the ISS on November 18 around 4 or 5 p.m. EST.
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https://nextspaceflight.com/launches/?search=SpaceX
has 3 Nov.

Is that possible? given
https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=54125.0;attach=2123606;sess=0

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requests 180 days of Special Temporary Authority (“STA”), commencing November 7, 2022

Is it quick and easy to revise the dates on such an STA?

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Cross-post; my bold:
https://www.launchphotography.com/Launch_Viewing_Guide.html [October 23 update]
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FALCON 9

The next SpaceX launch will be a Falcon Heavy carrying USSF-44 for the U.S. Space Force from pad 39A on October 31 at 9:44 a.m. EDT. The side boosters will land back at the Cape about eight minutes after launch. A Falcon 9 will launch the Hotbird 13G communications satellite for Eutelsat from pad 40 on November 3. A Falcon 9 will launch the Intelsat Galaxy 31 & 32 communication satellites from pad 40 on November TBD. A Falcon 9 from pad 40 will launch the HAKUTO-R lunar lander for iSpace on November TBD. The first stage will land back at the Cape about eight minutes after launch. And a Falcon 9 from pad 39A will launch the Dragon CRS-26 resupply mission to the ISS on November 18 around 4 or 5 p.m. EST.



First stage 1052.8?  It has the longest time since previous recovery of all unassigned Florida Falcon 9 first stages.
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