SpaceX F9 - Eutelsat 10B - CCSFS SLC-40 - 22/23 November 2022 (02:57 UTC)

[zubenelgenubi]

Likely using this licence

So this is what an expendable F9 FCC permit looks like now (it's been so long).  One of several expendable launches coming up.

1708-EX-ST-2022   

SpaceX Mission 1802 from LC-40 at CCAFS or LC-39A at KSC, and the experimental recovery operation following the Falcon 9 launch...
The first stage booster is expendable...
North  27  54  50   West  71  48  9 Boat

NET mid-November

More particularly, NET November 15

[zubenelgenubi]

October 16 update; no mention of Eutelsat 10B; launch is apparently after Eutelsat Hotbird 13G and HAKUTO-R:

https://www.launchphotography.com/Launch_Viewing_Guide.html

A Falcon 9 will launch the Hotbird 13G communications satelite for Eutelsat from pad 40 on November TBD. A Falcon 9 from pad 40 will launch the HAKUTO-R lunar lander for iSpace on November TBD. The first stage will land back at the Cape about eight minutes after launch. And a Falcon 9 from pad 39A will launch the Dragon CRS-26 resupply mission to the ISS on November 18 around 4 or 5 p.m. EST.

[lenny97]

For European satellite operator, using SpaceX means always having to say you’re sorry

https://twitter.com/pbdes/status/1581963415509430274

[Rondaz]

This confirms that Eutelsat-10B is on board Arianespace ship MN Colibri and due at Port Canaveral approx October 25th

https://twitter.com/SpaceOffshore/status/1582679633052389377

[hektor]

For European satellite operator, using SpaceX means always having to say you’re sorry

https://twitter.com/pbdes/status/1581963415509430274

I would have nothing against a European law forbidding purchase of launch services out of Europe, but then you have to accept the consequences if the European launchers are grounded.

[GWR64]

This confirms that Eutelsat-10B is on board Arianespace ship MN Colibri and due at Port Canaveral approx October 25th

https://twitter.com/SpaceOffshore/status/1582679633052389377

For European satellite operator, using SpaceX means always having to say you’re sorry

https://twitter.com/pbdes/status/1581963415509430274

TAS kept its word and delivered the Eutelsat 10B on schedule.
Apparently, Arianespace cannot fulfill the launch contract concluded with Eutelsat (the best customer!) on schedule.
The circumstances are difficult, of course, the time pressure, solo launch of Konnect VHTS due to the delay of Ovzon-3, the limited number of Ariane 5, the Ariane 6 delay...
But the decision not to build the last two Ariane 5 and the decommissioning of one Ariane 5 launch table,
has further restricted flexibility and cadence.
Arianespace has to say sorry, not Eutelsat.

[mandrewa]

For European satellite operator, using SpaceX means always having to say you’re sorry

I find it dismaying that using an American carrier, SpaceX, is something to be apologized for, but launching on a Russian rocket was always considered to be just fine.

I'm not trying to make an argument from hindsight.  Imagine what you (and by you I don't mean Lenny) felt about Russia before the special military operation?  And judge things from that perspective.

If it's so important to have an independent European launch capability, and I do think that's a desirable thing, why was it okay to cheat and have the Russians do it?

[lenny97]

For European satellite operator, using SpaceX means always having to say you’re sorry

I find it dismaying that using an American carrier, SpaceX, is something to be apologized for, but launching on a Russian rocket was always considered to be just fine.

I'm not trying to make an argument from hindsight.  Imagine what you (and by you I don't mean Lenny) felt about Russia before the special military operation?  And judge things from that perspective.

If it's so important to have an independent European launch capability, and I do think that's a desirable thing, why was it okay to cheat and have the Russians do it?

Because Europe was fine with "OPERATING" the rocket, without actually producing it.
Soyuz was a compromise and a good alert for the situation that would have come later in the 2010's.


And then, even when reality like SpaceX came up, and demonstrated that reusability is indeed a thing and an advantage for the company, ESA and Arianespace kept saying that was not a "threat" for them.


I will just leave that here...

[GWR64]

Since we are here in the Eutelsat 10B thread, there was no choice for Eutelsat. Either Arianespace can launch it now, or they need an alternative.
https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=52361.msg2337981#msg2337981

[realnouns]

Likely using this licence

So this is what an expendable F9 FCC permit looks like now (it's been so long).  One of several expendable launches coming up.

1708-EX-ST-2022   

SpaceX Mission 1802 from LC-40 at CCAFS or LC-39A at KSC, and the experimental recovery operation following the Falcon 9 launch...
The first stage booster is expendable...
North  27  54  50   West  71  48  9 Boat

NET mid-November

More particularly, NET November 15

I'm assuming the NET 2022 Nov 15 date for this mission was set based on FCC App 1708-ES-ST-2022's OSD, but couldn't that be for Intelsat Galaxy 31/32, instead of Eutelsat 10B?  Currently there is only one expendable launch license, and two expendable missions.

[FutureSpaceTourist]

https://twitter.com/spaceoffshore/status/1584620050018979850

Cargo ship MN Colibri should arrive at Port Canaveral with Eutelsat-10B on Tuesday afternoon.

The satellite will launch atop a Falcon 9 rocket NET November.

[Rondaz]

Vessel MM Colibri should arrive at Port Canaveral with the Eutelsat-10B satellite around ~5pm ET today.

https://twitter.com/SpaceOffshore/status/1584957681722396675

[FutureSpaceTourist]

https://twitter.com/jconcilus/status/1585006734464012288

After leaving Fos-sur-Mer in France on October 12, the MV Colibri has reached the Cape Canaveral anchorage area. This vessel is reportedly carrying the Eutelsat 10B communications satellite for a NET November launch date on a @SpaceX Falcon 9. Maybe 1049-11 to be expended?

[FutureSpaceTourist]

https://twitter.com/spaceoffshore/status/1585312197584068613

MN Colibri is inbound to Port Canaveral with the Eutelsat-10B satellite!

Hoping for some brief live views shortly before it docks out of view: nsf.live/spacecoast

[FutureSpaceTourist]

https://twitter.com/spaceoffshore/status/1585317423011356672

New marine asset unlocked! 🔓

Normally used by Arianespace to transport rockets to South America, MN Colibri has just delivered the Eutelsat-10B satellite to Cape Canaveral for launch atop a Falcon 9 NET November.

Rewind to see ⏪ nsf.live/spacecoast

[FutureSpaceTourist]

https://twitter.com/jennyhphoto/status/1585335382618812416

The MN Colibri came into port today, delivering the Eutelsat-10B satellite which SpaceX will launch in November 2022.
@SpaceOffshore

[FutureSpaceTourist]

https://twitter.com/thales_alenia_s/status/1586352538302849024

Another special delivery 📦🛰
#Eutelsat10b arrives at Cape Canaveral, Florida, where soon will be launched 🚀
#StayTuned #spaceforlife

[vaporcobra]

Looking like NET Nov 13-17 unless it's slipping into Dec. Alternatively, with ViaSat-3 slipping into 2023 and probably liable to slip further into Jan, there's a chance that 39A could be made ready for a F9 fairing launch in late Nov after CRS-26.

https://twitter.com/13ericralph31/status/1587028560375873536

[zubenelgenubi]

B1049.11 sighted entering LC-39A HIF on Oct 31.

If Eutelsat 10B will launch from SLC-40, why go to LC-39A?

As Falcon Heavy rolled out, two Falcon 9 first stage boosters arrived at the hangar. [Oct 31]

Identities, please?
For the next two LC-39A Falcon 9 launches (SpX-26 and ??)?

B1073 and B1049 get ready for their next flights during November. [Oct 31]

[Alexphysics]

B1049.11 sighted entering LC-39A HIF on Oct 31.

If Eutelsat 10B will launch from SLC-40, why go to LC-39A?

Storage. It's not even inside the HIF, it's just parked outside, like they do with a bunch of other boosters when there's no space to store them and they're ready to fly. SLC-40 was occupied by B1067-7 and its second stage for Hotbird. I imagine they already have B1051 on hand there for Galaxy and B1049 was being stored at 39A to then be transported to pad 40 once Hotbird launches. Same thing for B1073, it may well be for Hakuto-R, or maybe it's just for CRS-26, it's not easy to tell since they use 39A as interim storage most of the time.