SpaceX F9 - Eutelsat 10B - CCSFS SLC-40 - 22/23 November 2022 (02:57 UTC)

[eeergo]

Discussion Thread for launch of Eutelsat's 10B.

NSF Threads for Eutelsat 10B : Discussion

November 22, 2022, at 9:57 pm EST (02:57 UTC on the 23rd), from CCSFS SLC-40 to GTO.  The Falcon 9 first stage 1049-11 will be expended.

Built by Airbus on the new Eurostar Neo platform.  4500kg.


Eutelsat 10B


Satellite in final integration:
https://twitter.com/Thales_Alenia_S/status/1491329762132111361

[zubenelgenubi]

Cross-post; launch delay, possibly to no earlier than the end of 2022, with entry into service later in the first half of 2023.

https://www.benzinga.com/pressreleases/22/02/b25681068/eutelsat-communications-first-half-2021-22-results

FLEET DEPLOYMENT

Nominal deployment programme

Compared to the last quarterly update in October 2021, the entry into service of KONNECT VHTS has been delayed from the first half to the second half of calendar 2023. Furthermore, while still expected within the H1 2023 window, the entry into service of the EUTELSAT 10B satellite has been delayed versus our previous expectations. This reflects the impact of both manufacturing delays and their knock-on effects, including pairing difficulties, related to launch rescheduling, in the context of global Covid crisis.

All other data remains unchanged.

[zubenelgenubi]

Cross-post:

NextSpaceFlight lists a launch with a satellite for Eutelsat in November that will expend B1049.

Based on the Eutelsat launch schedule this could be any of 10B, Hotbird 13F, Hotbird 13G.  All of them are electric propulsion and due to enter service in either H1 2023 or Q2/Q3 2023.

[GWR64]

https://twitter.com/Eutelsat_SA/status/1541820384344956930

Always a delight to visit the facilities of @Thales_Alenia_S  in Cannes, France!
Eutelsat's Board of Directors, the Executive Committee & Eutelsat IGO, made the trip; a great opportunity to catch a👀of our 🛰 #EUTELSAT10B & #EUTELSAT #KONNECTVHTS in the clean rooms before 🚀.

[zubenelgenubi]

Cross-post:

The Eutelsat 10B in-service date has now slipped from H1 2023 to Q3 2023.

https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20220725005935/en/Eutelsat-Communications-Full-Year-2021-22-Results
[July 26]

I don't know if the launch date is also delayed into 2023.

[zubenelgenubi]

More regarding the launch of a Eutelsat geocom satellite aboard an expendable Falcon 9.
 Hotbird 13G?  Not Eutelsat 10B.

Intelsat made some FCC ground station filings to support LEOP of "Hotbird F1", which isn't actually a real name.  I'm guessing that should be Hotbird 13F.  The launch date given is October 17.  [Filing dated August 15.]

Wouldn't Hotbird 13G be more likely? The plan seems to be for it to launch before 13F (based on the table a few posts above).

Could be 13G

It may also be that Hotbird 13G gets the better orbit, i.e. an expendable Falcon 9.
With Hotbird 13G, Eutelsat wants to get the money for the EGNOS payload as soon as possible.
A total of 100 million euros in 15 years.
Hotbird 13F is not so urgent, but should also be launched this year.
<snip>

Edit: Might 10B launch on another Falcon 9?  If so, NLT early 2023?  Ovzon-3 is launching on Ariane 5.

Ovzon-3 news:

SN Maxar receives delayed Ovzon 3 satellite parts, August 18

TAMPA, Fla. — Ovzon’s first satellite is set to launch between December and February following the delivery of parts caught up in supply chain delays, the Swedish broadband service provider said Aug. 18.
<snip>
<snip> Ovzon CEO Per Noré said Ovzon 3’s size makes it easier for Arianespace to work the spacecraft into an existing launch manifest [Ariane 5].

[zubenelgenubi]

Hotbird 13F?

Now there's a filing for LEOP ground station support of the other Hotbird sat [Hotbird F2], NET November 7.  Again no launch details given.  [Aug 30]

[zubenelgenubi]

Belated cross-posts

PRESS RELEASE - 29 OCTOBER 2019 08:34

Eutelsat orders EUTELSAT 10B satellite for inflight and maritime connectivity services

Incremental HTS Ku-band capacity addressing demand in mobile connectivity
Substantial firm commitments from leading in-flight connectivity service providers
Ensuring service continuity for customers on EUTELSAT 10A
Paris, 29 October 2019 - Eutelsat Communications (Euronext Paris: ETL) has signed a letter of agreement with Thales Alenia Space for the procurement of EUTELSAT 10B, a new all-electric satellite built on the Spacebus NEO platform. Scheduled to be launched in 2022, the satellite will be located at 10° East, an orbital position that offers a unique visibility spanning from the Americas to Asia. It will ensure service continuity for existing customers on EUTELSAT 10A, while supporting the development of the Group’s activities in mobile connectivity thanks to two new incremental HTS payloads.

Two powerful and innovative payloads to provide inflight and maritime connectivity

Responding to strong growth in demand for mobile connectivity, EUTELSAT 10B will carry two multi-beam HTS Ku-band payloads: a high-capacity payload, covering the North Atlantic corridor, Europe, the Mediterranean basin and the Middle East, offering significant throughput in the busiest air and sea traffic zones, and a second payload to extend coverage across the Atlantic Ocean, Africa and the Indian Ocean. The satellite’s HTS payloads will be able to process more than 50 GHz of bandwidth, offering a throughput of approximately 35 Gbps.The entire satellite payload will be digitally processed, offering capacity allocation flexibility thanks to a digital transparent processor.

Firm capacity commitments

Firm multi-year capacity commitments have already been secured with several leading in-flight connectivity service providers, representing more than one third of the incremental HTS capacity. These partners will rely on EUTELSAT 10B to provide airlines with in-flight connectivity services.

Service continuity at a key orbital location
The 10° East location that EUTELSAT 10B will occupy has been operated by Eutelsat since 1987 and provides unrivalled coverage in the heart of the European, Middle Eastern and African zones. EUTELSAT 10B satellite will carry two widebeam C- and Ku-band payloads, totalling 32 [1] to ensure continuity of the missions of the EUTELSAT 10A satellite, whose operational life is scheduled to end in 2023.

The capital expenditure represented by EUTELSAT 10B does not alter Eutelsat’s existing envelope of 400 million euros per annum on average for the period from July 2019 to June 2022.

Rodolphe Belmer, CEO of Eutelsat, said: "The procurement of EUTELSAT 10B underpins our strategy of focusing our development in the field of connectivity. The selection of its Ku-band payload, in complement to the future KONNECT VHTS operating in Ka-band, reflects our ability to serve our customers in both Ka- and Ku-band with best-in-class space assets. Firm capacity commitments secured with major partners testify to both the quality of coverage at our 10° East location as well as the robustness of demand in the mobile connectivity segment.”

[1]12 transponders equivalent to 36 MHz in Ku-band and 20 transponders equivalent to 36 MHz in C-band

https://www.eutelsat.com/en/news/press.html#/pressreleases/eutelsat-orders-eutelsat-10b-satellite-for-inflight-and-maritime-connectivity-services-2936959

Eutelsat entrusts Arianespace with the launch of its next-generation EUTELSAT 10B satellite

December 15, 2020

Arianespace and Eutelsat have confirmed that EUTELSAT 10B, Eutelsat’s next generation high-throughput telecommunications satellite, will be launched on an Ariane 5 rocket.

EUTELSAT 10B is scheduled for launch in 2022 on one of eight Ariane 5 missions remaining to be performed with the heavy-lift launcher.

Arianespace, the European launch services provider, has confirmed that it will launch a new satellite – EUTELSAT 10B – for Eutelsat, one of the world’s leading satellite operators.

The launch is scheduled from the Guiana Space Centre on an Ariane 5 in 2022.

EUTELSAT 10B is a telecommunications satellite to be positioned at the 10° East orbital position, offering unique visibility spanning from the Americas to Asia. Built by Thales Alenia Space and based on its Spacebus NEO all-electric platform, it will embark Ku- and C-band payloads to ensure service continuity for existing customers on EUTELSAT 10A, while supporting the development of the Eutelsat Group’s activities in mobile connectivity thanks to two incremental multi-beam HTS Ku-band payloads.

Pascal Homsy, Eutelsat’s Chief Technical Officer, said: “We are pleased to entrust the launch of EUTELSAT 10B to our long-standing partner, Arianespace, further cementing the relationship between our two companies and reflecting our confidence in Ariane 5 providing us with access to space.”

“We are honored by Eutelsat’s renewed trust in Arianespace’s launch services solutions,” said Stéphane Israël, CEO of Arianespace. “Not only does this contract illustrate the long-lasting partnership between our two companies and the robustness of our relationship, it also demonstrates the competitiveness of Ariane 5 within the demanding market of geostationary telecommunications satellites. With this latest announcement, Ariane 5 has secured almost all its final series of launches, in advance of the handover to Ariane 6 with the same success.”

https://www.arianespace.com/press-release/eutelsat-entrusts-arianespace-with-the-launch-of-its-next-generation-eutelsat-10b-satellite/

Arianespace sustained its launch operations in 2020 and gears up for an even faster pace in 2021
<snip>
Arianespace consolidated the order backlog for its family of launchers (Ariane 5, Ariane 6, Soyuz, Vega, Vega C), by signing contracts with the following customers:
<snip>
Eutelsat, with the launch of its new-generation EUTELSAT-10B satellite on Ariane 5, and confirmation of three options on Ariane 6 defined within the framework of a contract signed in 2018;
<snip>
https://www.arianespace.com/press-release/arianespace-sustained-its-launch-operations-in-2020-and-gears-up-for-an-even-faster-pace-in-2021/
[January 7, 2021]

Launch TBD 2022 > H2 2022:

Eutelsat: Delayed satellite launches.

First Half 2020-21 Results Presentation
https://www.eutelsat.com/files/PDF/investors/2020-21/H1_2020-21_Presentation.pdf
[Attachment 1]

A beginning to us sorting out the 2022 Ariane 5 manifest:

Now that we know the passengers of VA257, and that we know that JUICE will be the last flight of Ariane 5, it thus remains 3 flights with "unknown" satellites.

https://twitter.com/ChrisG_NSF/status/1479071607956119556

Stéphane Israël (@arianespaceceo) notes up to 17 @Arianespace launches in 2022, with:
- 4 of the 5 Ariane 5s (only JUICE will remain)
- 9 Soyuz launches (4 from Guiana + 5 from Baikonur)
- 1 Ariane 6 flights (1st NET 2nd half 2022)
- 3 Vega-C missions (1st NET April 2022)

[GWR64]

some FCC filings for ground station support, the launch site is not specified

Intelsat License LLC (“Intelsat”) herein requests 180 days of Special Temporary Authority (“STA”), commencing November 11, 2022, to use its Hagerstown, Maryland Ku-band earth station, Call Sign KA258, to provide launch and early orbit phase (“LEOP”) services to the Eutelsat-E10B satellite. Eutelsat-E10B is expected to launch on November 11, 2022. Intelsat expects the LEOP to last approximately six months.

SES-STA-20220830-00930
SES-STA-20220830-00931

[zubenelgenubi]

Not launching on Ariane 5 VA259:

According to Stéphane Israël on the VA258 launch webcast:

- Next Vega(-C) launch (VV22) on November 21st with Pleiades Neo 5 and 6 on 2nd Vega-C
- Next Ariane 5 launch (VA259) in December with satellites from EUMETSAT (MTG-I1) & Intelsat (Galaxy 35 & 36)

Falcon 9?

[Galactic Penguin SST]

SFN confirms this is also switching to a Falcon 9 launch from SLC-40 at the Cape, NET November 2022.

Also "The Falcon 9’s first stage booster will either be expended or land on a drone ship in the Atlantic Ocean." - probable last usage of B1049?

[DanClemmensen]

SFN confirms this is also switching to a Falcon 9 launch from SLC-40 at the Cape, NET November 2022.

Also "The Falcon 9’s first stage booster will either be expended or land on a drone ship in the Atlantic Ocean." - probable last usage of B1049?

For quite a while, we have been told that 1049 was being reserved for the next mission with a deliberately-expended booster, and this is why it has not flown for a long time. It is the earliest of the active boosters and is reputed to lack some more recent design changes that simplify refurbishment. Has something changed?

[scr00chy]

The potentially expended booster might indicate this is the launch with HAKUTO-R Mission 1.

[zubenelgenubi]

Cross-post; confirms that 1049.11 will be expended for this launch:

https://twitter.com/alexphysics13/status/1579444259337666560

For the first time in over 3 years SpaceX will expend a Falcon booster on purpose. But it's not just one, it'll be three boosters. If schedules hold, the order will be B1066, then B1051-14, and finally B1049-11.
nextspaceflight.com/launches/agenc…

Here goes a 🧵

https://twitter.com/Alexphysics13/status/1579444268305100800

https://twitter.com/alexphysics13/status/1579444271123685376

B1049-11 is a Falcon 9 booster that will fly on the Eutelsat 10B mission. Among its flights, this booster supported the first launch of Starlink satellites in May 2019. Its last flight is part of a previously unannounced three-mission deal with Eutelsat.

It'll be sad to see these three boosters go and it's been a long time since SpaceX intentionally expended one but at least they'll go out doing just what Falcon does best... which is putting stuff into orbit.

[GWR64]

The MN Colibri left Fos sur Mer today. Destination is Cape Canaveral on October 25th.
Could there be Eutelsat 10B on board? If not what else?

[FLHerne]

Seems a bit tight for an early November launch. Could be Hotbird 13G, NET late November?

[Chinakpradhan]

The MN Colibri left Fos sur Mer today. Destination is Cape Canaveral on October 25th.
Could there be Eutelsat 10B on board? If not what else?

only 10B 13G is coming via air

[zubenelgenubi]

Seems a bit tight for an early November launch. Could be Hotbird 13G, NET late November?

Or, the 10B launch is delayed.

[Josh_from_Canada]

Likely using this licence

So this is what an expendable F9 FCC permit looks like now (it's been so long).  One of several expendable launches coming up.

1708-EX-ST-2022   

SpaceX Mission 1802 from LC-40 at CCAFS or LC-39A at KSC, and the experimental recovery operation following the Falcon 9 launch...
The first stage booster is expendable...
North  27  54  50   West  71  48  9 Boat

NET mid-November

[Rondaz]

Arianespace's MN Colibri has reached the open Atlantic Ocean and is on her way to deliver "space cargo" (probably Eutelsat-10B) to Cape Canaveral.

https://twitter.com/SpaceOffshore/status/1581765678666723328

[zubenelgenubi]

Likely using this licence

So this is what an expendable F9 FCC permit looks like now (it's been so long).  One of several expendable launches coming up.

1708-EX-ST-2022   

SpaceX Mission 1802 from LC-40 at CCAFS or LC-39A at KSC, and the experimental recovery operation following the Falcon 9 launch...
The first stage booster is expendable...
North  27  54  50   West  71  48  9 Boat

NET mid-November

More particularly, NET November 15

[zubenelgenubi]

October 16 update; no mention of Eutelsat 10B; launch is apparently after Eutelsat Hotbird 13G and HAKUTO-R:

https://www.launchphotography.com/Launch_Viewing_Guide.html

A Falcon 9 will launch the Hotbird 13G communications satelite for Eutelsat from pad 40 on November TBD. A Falcon 9 from pad 40 will launch the HAKUTO-R lunar lander for iSpace on November TBD. The first stage will land back at the Cape about eight minutes after launch. And a Falcon 9 from pad 39A will launch the Dragon CRS-26 resupply mission to the ISS on November 18 around 4 or 5 p.m. EST.

[lenny97]

For European satellite operator, using SpaceX means always having to say you’re sorry

https://twitter.com/pbdes/status/1581963415509430274

[Rondaz]

This confirms that Eutelsat-10B is on board Arianespace ship MN Colibri and due at Port Canaveral approx October 25th

https://twitter.com/SpaceOffshore/status/1582679633052389377

[hektor]

For European satellite operator, using SpaceX means always having to say you’re sorry

https://twitter.com/pbdes/status/1581963415509430274

I would have nothing against a European law forbidding purchase of launch services out of Europe, but then you have to accept the consequences if the European launchers are grounded.

[GWR64]

This confirms that Eutelsat-10B is on board Arianespace ship MN Colibri and due at Port Canaveral approx October 25th

https://twitter.com/SpaceOffshore/status/1582679633052389377

For European satellite operator, using SpaceX means always having to say you’re sorry

https://twitter.com/pbdes/status/1581963415509430274

TAS kept its word and delivered the Eutelsat 10B on schedule.
Apparently, Arianespace cannot fulfill the launch contract concluded with Eutelsat (the best customer!) on schedule.
The circumstances are difficult, of course, the time pressure, solo launch of Konnect VHTS due to the delay of Ovzon-3, the limited number of Ariane 5, the Ariane 6 delay...
But the decision not to build the last two Ariane 5 and the decommissioning of one Ariane 5 launch table,
has further restricted flexibility and cadence.
Arianespace has to say sorry, not Eutelsat.

[mandrewa]

For European satellite operator, using SpaceX means always having to say you’re sorry

I find it dismaying that using an American carrier, SpaceX, is something to be apologized for, but launching on a Russian rocket was always considered to be just fine.

I'm not trying to make an argument from hindsight.  Imagine what you (and by you I don't mean Lenny) felt about Russia before the special military operation?  And judge things from that perspective.

If it's so important to have an independent European launch capability, and I do think that's a desirable thing, why was it okay to cheat and have the Russians do it?

[lenny97]

For European satellite operator, using SpaceX means always having to say you’re sorry

I find it dismaying that using an American carrier, SpaceX, is something to be apologized for, but launching on a Russian rocket was always considered to be just fine.

I'm not trying to make an argument from hindsight.  Imagine what you (and by you I don't mean Lenny) felt about Russia before the special military operation?  And judge things from that perspective.

If it's so important to have an independent European launch capability, and I do think that's a desirable thing, why was it okay to cheat and have the Russians do it?

Because Europe was fine with "OPERATING" the rocket, without actually producing it.
Soyuz was a compromise and a good alert for the situation that would have come later in the 2010's.


And then, even when reality like SpaceX came up, and demonstrated that reusability is indeed a thing and an advantage for the company, ESA and Arianespace kept saying that was not a "threat" for them.


I will just leave that here...

[GWR64]

Since we are here in the Eutelsat 10B thread, there was no choice for Eutelsat. Either Arianespace can launch it now, or they need an alternative.
https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=52361.msg2337981#msg2337981

[realnouns]

Likely using this licence

So this is what an expendable F9 FCC permit looks like now (it's been so long).  One of several expendable launches coming up.

1708-EX-ST-2022   

SpaceX Mission 1802 from LC-40 at CCAFS or LC-39A at KSC, and the experimental recovery operation following the Falcon 9 launch...
The first stage booster is expendable...
North  27  54  50   West  71  48  9 Boat

NET mid-November

More particularly, NET November 15

I'm assuming the NET 2022 Nov 15 date for this mission was set based on FCC App 1708-ES-ST-2022's OSD, but couldn't that be for Intelsat Galaxy 31/32, instead of Eutelsat 10B?  Currently there is only one expendable launch license, and two expendable missions.

[FutureSpaceTourist]

https://twitter.com/spaceoffshore/status/1584620050018979850

Cargo ship MN Colibri should arrive at Port Canaveral with Eutelsat-10B on Tuesday afternoon.

The satellite will launch atop a Falcon 9 rocket NET November.

[Rondaz]

Vessel MM Colibri should arrive at Port Canaveral with the Eutelsat-10B satellite around ~5pm ET today.

https://twitter.com/SpaceOffshore/status/1584957681722396675

[FutureSpaceTourist]

https://twitter.com/jconcilus/status/1585006734464012288

After leaving Fos-sur-Mer in France on October 12, the MV Colibri has reached the Cape Canaveral anchorage area. This vessel is reportedly carrying the Eutelsat 10B communications satellite for a NET November launch date on a @SpaceX Falcon 9. Maybe 1049-11 to be expended?

[FutureSpaceTourist]

https://twitter.com/spaceoffshore/status/1585312197584068613

MN Colibri is inbound to Port Canaveral with the Eutelsat-10B satellite!

Hoping for some brief live views shortly before it docks out of view: nsf.live/spacecoast

[FutureSpaceTourist]

https://twitter.com/spaceoffshore/status/1585317423011356672

New marine asset unlocked! 🔓

Normally used by Arianespace to transport rockets to South America, MN Colibri has just delivered the Eutelsat-10B satellite to Cape Canaveral for launch atop a Falcon 9 NET November.

Rewind to see ⏪ nsf.live/spacecoast

[FutureSpaceTourist]

https://twitter.com/jennyhphoto/status/1585335382618812416

The MN Colibri came into port today, delivering the Eutelsat-10B satellite which SpaceX will launch in November 2022.
@SpaceOffshore

[FutureSpaceTourist]

https://twitter.com/thales_alenia_s/status/1586352538302849024

Another special delivery 📦🛰
#Eutelsat10b arrives at Cape Canaveral, Florida, where soon will be launched 🚀
#StayTuned #spaceforlife

[vaporcobra]

Looking like NET Nov 13-17 unless it's slipping into Dec. Alternatively, with ViaSat-3 slipping into 2023 and probably liable to slip further into Jan, there's a chance that 39A could be made ready for a F9 fairing launch in late Nov after CRS-26.

https://twitter.com/13ericralph31/status/1587028560375873536

[zubenelgenubi]

B1049.11 sighted entering LC-39A HIF on Oct 31.

If Eutelsat 10B will launch from SLC-40, why go to LC-39A?

As Falcon Heavy rolled out, two Falcon 9 first stage boosters arrived at the hangar. [Oct 31]

Identities, please?
For the next two LC-39A Falcon 9 launches (SpX-26 and ??)?

B1073 and B1049 get ready for their next flights during November. [Oct 31]

[Alexphysics]

B1049.11 sighted entering LC-39A HIF on Oct 31.

If Eutelsat 10B will launch from SLC-40, why go to LC-39A?

Storage. It's not even inside the HIF, it's just parked outside, like they do with a bunch of other boosters when there's no space to store them and they're ready to fly. SLC-40 was occupied by B1067-7 and its second stage for Hotbird. I imagine they already have B1051 on hand there for Galaxy and B1049 was being stored at 39A to then be transported to pad 40 once Hotbird launches. Same thing for B1073, it may well be for Hakuto-R, or maybe it's just for CRS-26, it's not easy to tell since they use 39A as interim storage most of the time.

[zubenelgenubi]

Ben Cooper's Launch Photography Viewing Guide, updated November 9:

A Falcon 9 from pad 40 will launch the Eutelsat 10B communication satellite on November TBD, after sunset EST.

Edit to add:
NextSpaceFlight, updated November 9:
Launch November 17 23:33 UTC
= 6:33 pm EST

[Ken the Bin]

This NGA notice appears to be for this launch, but the primary day is November 16, not November 17.

100036Z NOV 22
NAVAREA IV 1196/22(11,26).
WESTERN NORTH ATLANTIC.
FLORIDA.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, ROCKET LAUNCHING
   162334Z TO 170349Z NOV, ALTERNATE
   2334Z TO 0349Z DAILY 17 THRU 22 NOV
   IN AREAS BOUND BY:
   A. 28-38.77N 080-37.52W, 28-40.00N 080-37.00W,
      28-36.00N 079-25.00W, 28-30.00N 079-24.00W,
      28-30.00N 080-30.00W, 28-30.88N 080-33.22W.
   B. 27-51.00N 074-15.00W, 28-33.00N 074-11.00W,
      28-23.00N 071-15.00W, 28-08.00N 069-33.00W,
      27-27.00N 069-31.00W, 27-20.00N 071-15.00W.
2. CANCEL THIS MSG 230449Z NOV 22.

[OneSpeed]

This NGA notice appears to be for this launch, but the primary day is November 16, not November 17.

Map from the NGA notice. Booster splashdown 863km downrange.

Note: the curve in the ground track is not a dogleg, just an arc in the great circle route depiction of the orbit.

[crandles57]

https://nextspaceflight.com/launches/details/7018

updated (12 Nov) to say Nov 20 23:33

[Ken the Bin]

I received this NGA notice.  It doesn't fit the time reported by NextSpaceflight however it is in line with Ben Cooper: "The next SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket will launch the Eutelsat 10B communication satellite from pad 40 on November 20 around 10 p.m. EST."

Also, the NGA notice for a launch today (November 16) is still active.  This is a totally new notice, not a cancel-and-replace.

141609Z NOV 22
NAVAREA IV 1221/22(11,26).
WESTERN NORTH ATLANTIC.
FLORIDA.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, ROCKET LAUNCHING
   210252Z TO 210349Z NOV, ALTERNATE 
   0252Z TO 0349Z DAILY 22 THRU 27 NOV 
   IN AREAS BOUND BY:
   A. 28-38.77N 080-37.52W, 28-40.00N 080-37.00W,
      28-36.00N 079-25.00W, 28-30.00N 079-24.00W,
      28-30.00N 080-30.00W, 28-30.88N 080-33.22W.
   B. 27-51.00N 074-15.00W, 28-33.00N 074-11.00W,
      28-23.00N 071-15.00W, 28-08.00N 069-33.00W,
      27-27.00N 069-31.00W, 27-20.00N 071-15.00W.
2. CANCEL THIS MSG 270449Z NOV 22.//

[zubenelgenubi]

I received this NGA notice.  It doesn't fit the time reported by NextSpaceflight however it is in line with Ben Cooper: "The next SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket will launch the Eutelsat 10B communication satellite from pad 40 on November 20 around 10 p.m. EST."

Ben Cooper's Launch Photography Viewing Guide, updated (later) November 16:

The next SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket will launch the Eutelsat 10B communication satellite from pad 40 on November 20 at 9:57 p.m. EST.

= November 21 02:57 UTC

NextSpaceFlight, updated November 16, is now the same.

[Ken the Bin]

L-3 weather forecast.  30% 'Go' for both November 20/21 and 21/22.  Upper-Level Wind Shear risk and Recovery Weather risk are Low-Moderate for November 20/21.  Recovery Weather risk is Moderate for November 21/22.  All other Additional Risk Criteria are Low for both days.

[GWR64]

🚀 EUTELSAT 10B satellite launching soon!
➡️ Bringing new HTS capacity for in-flight and maritime connectivity
services.
👀 Stay tuned!

https://twitter.com/Eutelsat_SA/status/1593279925355794433

[FutureSpaceTourist]

L-2 launch weather forecast, no real change still 30% GO both days

[FutureSpaceTourist]

twitter.com/spacetfrs/status/1593598928263401472

Cape Canaveral/Kennedy Space Center, FL temporary restriction:
From November 21, 2022 at 0222 UTC to To November 21, 2022 at 0325 UTC
Altitude: From the surface up to and including 18,000ft
https://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_2_4453.html

https://twitter.com/spacetfrs/status/1593602775576825857

Cape Canaveral/Kennedy Space Center, FL temporary restriction:
From November 21, 2022 at 0222 UTC to To November 21, 2022 at 0325 UTC
Altitude: From the surface up to and including 18,000ft
https://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_2_4454.html

[FutureSpaceTourist]

https://twitter.com/spaceoffshore/status/1593658361043505152

Doug departed Port Canaveral overnight and is heading downrange to recover the fairing for the Eutelsat-10B mission

The booster, B1049, will be expended.

[zubenelgenubi]

Shouldn't B1049.11 roll out to the pad soon for a static fire?

[gongora]

new NOTMAR replacing the one Ken posted above is 1 day later

[Salo]

Сastling?
https://www.spacex.com/launches/crs-26/

[gongora]

Hard to tell yet

[EspenU]

Shouldn't B1049.11 roll out to the pad soon for a static fire?

Do we know that it needs a static fire?

[scr00chy]

Shouldn't B1049.11 roll out to the pad soon for a static fire?

Do we know that it needs a static fire?

Not for sure, but it's been sitting around for over a year, so I'd assume they'd want to do a SF.

[FutureSpaceTourist]

L-2 launch weather forecast still only 30% GO increasing slightly to 40% a day later

[FutureSpaceTourist]

https://twitter.com/eutelsat_sa/status/1593988140842319880

**Launch Update**

#EUTELSAT 10B satellite now planned for #launch on Monday November 21st 21:52 Eastern Time (02:52 UTC, Tuesday November 22nd) from Cape Canaveral, Florida.

The live will be available here:  spacex.com/launches

[scr00chy]

https://www.launchphotography.com/Launch_Viewing_Guide.html

The next SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket will launch the Eutelsat 10B communication satellite from pad 40 on November 21 at 9:52-10:02 p.m. EST.

Only a 10-minute launch window. Isn't that unusual for a GTO launch?

[zubenelgenubi]

https://www.launchphotography.com/Launch_Viewing_Guide.html

The next SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket will launch the Eutelsat 10B communication satellite from pad 40 on November 21 at 9:52-10:02 p.m. EST.

Only a 10-minute launch window. Isn't that unusual for a GTO launch?

Wider launch window > using performance that could otherwise be dedicated to reducing the delta-v needed to reach GEO from the transfer orbit.

They are already using an expendable 1st stage.

[scr00chy]

https://www.launchphotography.com/Launch_Viewing_Guide.html

The next SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket will launch the Eutelsat 10B communication satellite from pad 40 on November 21 at 9:52-10:02 p.m. EST.

Only a 10-minute launch window. Isn't that unusual for a GTO launch?

Wider launch window > using performance that could otherwise be dedicated to reducing the delta-v needed to reach GEO from the transfer orbit.

They are already using an expendable 1st stage.

So why is the performance loss acceptable on the other GTO missions that have longer windows?

[FutureSpaceTourist]

L-1 launch weather forecast still just 30% GO

[PDJennings]

https://www.launchphotography.com/Launch_Viewing_Guide.html

The next SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket will launch the Eutelsat 10B communication satellite from pad 40 on November 21 at 9:52-10:02 p.m. EST.

Only a 10-minute launch window. Isn't that unusual for a GTO launch?

Wider launch window > using performance that could otherwise be dedicated to reducing the delta-v needed to reach GEO from the transfer orbit.

They are already using an expendable 1st stage.

So why is the performance loss acceptable on the other GTO missions that have longer windows?

Falcon 9 uses subcooled propellants.  I think that might be the main reason they want short launch windows.  The spacecraft people would probably be happy with their usual 1-2 hour window duration.

[GewoonLukas_]

https://www.launchphotography.com/Launch_Viewing_Guide.html

The next SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket will launch the Eutelsat 10B communication satellite from pad 40 on November 21 at 9:52-10:02 p.m. EST.

Only a 10-minute launch window. Isn't that unusual for a GTO launch?

Wider launch window > using performance that could otherwise be dedicated to reducing the delta-v needed to reach GEO from the transfer orbit.

They are already using an expendable 1st stage.

So why is the performance loss acceptable on the other GTO missions that have longer windows?

For GTO launches, they try to hit a specific point in space. The optimal launch time to reach that point is always the middle of the launch window. However, they are able to extend that launch window by using the margin the launch vehicle has to steer into the optimal trajectory (ULA calls it RAAN steering). That takes a little bit of performance. In the case of Eutelsat 10B, which already is an expendable launch due to performance requirements, that margin is very small which only allows for a 10 minute launch window.

Edit: fixed typo

[SpaceFinnOriginal]

Can anyone post here the mission patch, please? At least from Eutelsat side.

[AndrewM]

I checked https://www.spacex.com/launches/eutelsat-10b/ and it was actually updated. SpaceX has the T-0 as 02:57 UTC.

[FutureSpaceTourist]

https://twitter.com/spaceoffshore/status/1594427733165187072

SpaceX support ship Doug is an impressive 1015 km (549 nm) downrange to recover the fairing for the upcoming Eutelsat-10B mission.

Booster B1049 will be expended.

[FutureSpaceTourist]

[FutureSpaceTourist]

https://twitter.com/spacex/status/1594480206013571073

Targeting Monday, November 21 at 9:57 p.m. ET for a Falcon 9 launch of the Eutelsat 10B mission from SLC-40 in Florida → spacex.com/launches

https://www.spacex.com/launches/eutelsat-10b/

SpaceX is targeting Monday, November 21 for launch of the Eutelsat 10B mission to a geosynchronous transfer orbit from Space Launch Complex 40 (SLC-40) at Cape Canaveral Space Force Station in Florida. Liftoff is targeted for 9:57 p.m. ET (02:57 UTC on November 22). A backup launch opportunity is available on Tuesday, November 22 at the same time.

The Falcon 9 first stage booster supporting this mission previously launched Telstar 18 VANTAGE, Iridium-8, and eight Starlink missions.

A live webcast of this mission will begin about 15 minutes prior to liftoff.

[Rondaz]

Upcoming launch of #Eutelsat10B mission via #SpaceX's #Falcon9 vehicle

Booster supporting this mission

https://twitter.com/_rykllan/status/1594560333716258816

[Rondaz]

Tonight @SpaceX will retire another booster, the B1049. The B1049 has already made 10 launches and is the booster that has been "stopped" the longest.

https://twitter.com/SpaceNosey/status/1594628686380236802

[Rondaz]

Update..

Orbital Launch no. 163 of 2022

#SpaceX to launch the "#Eutelsat10B" telecommunications satellite for Eutelsat SA and Thales Alenia Space, on top of its Expendable #Falcon9 core "#B1049-11" from SLC-40 Cape Canaveral SFS, #Florida

https://twitter.com/nkknspace/status/1594739314738479114

[Ken the Bin]

L-0 weather forecast.  30% 'Go' for November 21 (today).  10% 'Go' for November 22.  Recovery Weather risk is Moderate for both days.  All other Additional Risk Criteria are Low for both days.

[FutureSpaceTourist]

[soltasto]

"Press kit" capture with OCR

[Rondaz]

Cape Canaveral/Kennedy Space Center, FL temporary restriction:

From November 22, 2022 at 2019 UTC to To November 22, 2022 at 2120 UTC

Altitude: From the surface up to and including 18,000ft
https://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_2_5390.html

Likely:Eutelsat-10B (https://rocketlaunch.live/launch/eutelsat-10b)

https://twitter.com/SpaceTfrs/status/1594683824398651394

[Rondaz]

Weather permitting, Falcon 9 B1049 will make its final flight this evening. Eutelsat-10B is set to be deployed into a supersynchronous transfer orbit, lifting off from SLC-40 at 9:57 PM EST (02:57 UTC).

https://twitter.com/TGMetsFan98/status/1594758486658793486

[edkyle99]

Falcon 9 could loft a 4.5 tonne satellite to supersynchronous transfer orbit with first stage downrange recovery.  Why expend a stage here?  Is the orbit substantially higher energy, or does the satellite weigh more than suspected?

 - Ed Kyle

[ZachS09]

Falcon 9 could loft a 4.5 tonne satellite to supersynchronous transfer orbit with first stage downrange recovery.  Why expend a stage here?  Is the orbit substantially higher energy, or does the satellite weigh more than suspected?

 - Ed Kyle

My opinion is it’s a way higher energy orbit.

Maybe apogee might be between 80,000 and 90,000 kilometers and the inclination close to 21 degrees.

[vaporcobra]

Also worth noting that Eutelsat was clearly uncomfortable about VHTS and Eutelsat 10B launch delays ~9 months ago. For an all-electric geosat, a supersynch launch could potentially cut weeks off of orbit-raising, weeks that could instead be spent generating revenue.

Konnect VHTS and Eutelsat 10B satellite delays have “a mechanical effect on our expectations for subsequent years,” Eutelsat said in its Feb. 17 financial report.

https://spacenews.com/eutelsat-pushes-back-return-to-growth-forecast-amid-satellite-delays/

And IIRC, pretty sure Musk or another SpaceX executive has stated that old Block 5 boosters are more high-touch, so fewer qualms about expending them. Several possible explanations, though ultimately I'm pretty sure it just boils down to a service SpaceX is happy to provide as long as the customer is willing to pay extra, and as long as the booster fleet is large enough to survive a culling.

[Rondaz]

Launch Hazard Areas for #Eutelsat 10B mission from CCSFS SLC-40, valid for NET 22 Nov 02:57 UTC, altern.23 to 28 Nov based on issued NOTMAR/NOTAM. Expendable B1049.11 splashdown 896km downrange. Estimated fairing recovery position approx. 992km downrange.

https://twitter.com/Raul74Cz/status/1594707284512616450

[spacenuance]

Spaceflight Now has the mass of Eutelsat 10B at 5.5 tons.

Eutelsat 10B’s total launch mass is about 5.5 metric tons, or roughly 12,000 pounds, a Thales spokesperson told Spaceflight Now on Monday.

The target apogee for the Eutelsat 10B mission at spacecraft deployment will be above 37,000 miles, or about 60,000 kilometers, according to Pascal Homsy, Eutelsat’s chief technical officer.

https://spaceflightnow.com/2022/11/21/eutelsat-satellite-to-get-last-ride-from-spacexs-oldest-active-falcon-9-booster/

[alugobi]

Scrubbed.

Livestream now says 24 hours.

[Exci]

Scrub 11/21.  Boo, we're visiting Cocoa and I was getting ready to wake up the 4 and 6 year old for their first flight.  Heading to Kennedy tomorrow, but not expecting to get lucky with the weather.  Our last full day is Wednesday, fingers crossed!

[Rondaz]

Eutelsat says SpaceX has scrubbed a Falcon 9 launch attempt tonight at Cape Canaveral with the Eutelsat 10B satellite.

Weather permitting, SpaceX will try again Tuesday night, six hours after another Falcon 9 is set to launch from Kennedy Space Center.

https://twitter.com/SpaceflightNow/status/1594868822661472256

[scr00chy]

Does anyone know when the static fire took place?

[Rondaz]

Weather not the cause of tonight's scrub. Meanwhile, a west coast Falcon 9 is also having an extended delay due to technical issues. No word on wether or not they are related, and if they could affect the Space Station resupply launch scheduled for Tuesday.

https://twitter.com/nextspaceflight/status/1594870326412075010

[Rondaz]

Nice Pic.

A 12,000-pound European communications satellite designed to beam internet signals to airplanes & ships is set to rocket into a high-altitude orbit from Cape Canaveral tonight, marking the 11th and final flight for SpaceX’s oldest active Falcon 9 booster.

https://twitter.com/SpaceflightNow/status/1594843518073470978

[Steven Pietrobon]

"Standing down from tonight’s launch of the Eutelsat 10B mission to allow for additional pre-flight checkouts; now targeting tomorrow, November 22 at 9:57 p.m. ET for liftoff. Weather is currently 20% favorable"

https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1594869942918127616

[ZachS09]

"Standing down from tonight’s launch of the Eutelsat 10B mission to allow for additional pre-flight checkouts; now targeting tomorrow, November 22 at 9:57 p.m. ET for liftoff. Weather is currently 20% favorable"

https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1594869942918127616

Not surprised by their scrub reason anymore. It’s pretty much the fact that the team just requested another 24 hours of inspection time for good measure.

[Ken the Bin]

A new L-1 weather forecast for the postponement.  10% 'Go' for November 22/23.  60% 'Go' for November 23/24.  Upper-Level Wind Shear risk is Low-Moderate and Recovery Weather risk is Moderate for November 22/23.  Recovery Weather risk is Low-Moderate for November 23/24.  All other Additional Risk Criteria are Low.

[Comga]

Spaceflight Now has the mass of Eutelsat 10B at 5.5 tons.

Eutelsat 10B’s total launch mass is about 5.5 metric tons, or roughly 12,000 pounds, a Thales spokesperson told Spaceflight Now on Monday.

The target apogee for the Eutelsat 10B mission at spacecraft deployment will be above 37,000 miles, or about 60,000 kilometers, according to Pascal Homsy, Eutelsat’s chief technical officer.

https://spaceflightnow.com/2022/11/21/eutelsat-satellite-to-get-last-ride-from-spacexs-oldest-active-falcon-9-booster/

That spaceflightnow article also says

…the deployment of the satellite into a super synchronous transfer orbit will shorten the time needed for it to reach its final operational geostationary orbit by about 10 days.

Really?
Eutelsat paid an undisclosed extra fee to maximize the GTO apogee, which seems to have resulted in expending the booster, to gain 10 days?
Can someone provide a more understandable interpretation of what was written?

Can one of our fantastic launch analysts calculate the maximum apogee at that payload mass with and without recovering the first stage, and then calculate the velocity deficit to GEO for both?

How does the difference compare to ten days of orbit adjustments?

(My guess would be the increase in on orbit lifetime die to the propellant savings.)

[FutureSpaceTourist]

Nice shot of both F9s

https://twitter.com/launchphoto/status/1594878091243184128

[Remes]

Really?
Eutelsat paid an undisclosed extra fee to maximize the GTO apogee, which seems to have resulted in expending the booster, to gain 10 days?
Can someone provide a more understandable interpretation of what was written?

Guessing both 15 years lifetime and 100M$ cost and assuming they make 100 times more profit then deprecation it still doesn't make sense.

But they might have either
- contractual obligations
- or a bottleneck, which affects all customers.
That might make the calculation profitable.

The satellite is also supplying data communication for air and sea. That are well paying industries.

[LouScheffer]

Spaceflight Now has the mass of Eutelsat 10B at 5.5 tons.

Eutelsat 10B’s total launch mass is about 5.5 metric tons, or roughly 12,000 pounds, a Thales spokesperson told Spaceflight Now on Monday.

The target apogee for the Eutelsat 10B mission at spacecraft deployment will be above 37,000 miles, or about 60,000 kilometers, according to Pascal Homsy, Eutelsat’s chief technical officer.

https://spaceflightnow.com/2022/11/21/eutelsat-satellite-to-get-last-ride-from-spacexs-oldest-active-falcon-9-booster/

That spaceflightnow article also says

…the deployment of the satellite into a super synchronous transfer orbit will shorten the time needed for it to reach its final operational geostationary orbit by about 10 days.

Really?
Eutelsat paid an undisclosed extra fee to maximize the GTO apogee, which seems to have resulted in expending the booster, to gain 10 days? Can someone provide a more understandable interpretation of what was written?

Can one of our fantastic launch analysts calculate the maximum apogee at that payload mass with and without recovering the first stage, and then calculate the velocity deficit to GEO for both?

How does the difference compare to ten days of orbit adjustments?

(My guess would be the increase in on orbit lifetime die to the propellant savings.)

Here's a rough guess.  We know 5.5 tonnes is very close to what a recoverable F9 can put into a GTO with GEO apogee.  So about GEO-1800.

We know from the last expendable launch that an expendable F9 can add about 400 m/s to the total delta-V.  So how can that extra performance be used?  If it was all used to raise the apogee it would reach 87,000 km or so, reducing the delta V to GEO to about 1550 m/s.   But the apogee is not that high, so presumably they use the rest for inclination reduction, giving about a 22 degree x 60,000 km transfer orbit.   That's about GEO-1570 (slightly less efficient) but there are reasons a satellite operator might want to avoid a super-high apogee.

This is consistent with the 10-day estimate.  It's about 10% less delta V, so if an electric satellite normally takes 100 days to raise and circularize, a 10% savings would be 10 days.

Also, GEO stationkeeping costs about 50 m/s per year.   So it's 4-5 years added life.

[edkyle99]

Also GEO-1550/1570 is closer to what Arianespace was going to provide from Kourou, which was I assume the expectation when this satellite was designed.

 - Ed Kyle

[FutureSpaceTourist]

https://twitter.com/spacex/status/1595128121711202305

Falcon 9s vertical on pads 39A and 40 in Florida ahead of today’s targeted launches of CRS-26 at 3:54 p.m. ET and Eutelsat 10B at 9:57 p.m. ET. All vehicles are healthy; teams are keeping an eye on weather which is 10% favorable for both missions → spacex.com/launches

Photo by Ben Cooper

[ZachS09]

With CRS-26 scrubbed due to weather, I think Eutelsat 10B might be called off soon.

Repercussions, if you will.

[FutureSpaceTourist]

[Vahe231991]

With CRS-26 scrubbed due to weather, I think Eutelsat 10B might be called off soon.

Repercussions, if you will.

Any update on the acceptable weather conditions for the Eutelsat 10B launch?

[ZachS09]

With CRS-26 scrubbed due to weather, I think Eutelsat 10B might be called off soon.

Repercussions, if you will.

Any update on the acceptable weather conditions for the Eutelsat 10B launch?

That, I don't know. I'm assuming it'll stay within the 20 to 30% range of acceptable weather.

[nalawod]

With CRS-26 scrubbed due to weather, I think Eutelsat 10B might be called off soon.

Repercussions, if you will.

Any update on the acceptable weather conditions for the Eutelsat 10B launch?

That, I don't know. I'm assuming it'll stay within the 20 to 30% range of acceptable weather.

I live here in Cocoa Beach. Not looking good for a launch tonight is all I can say. Sometimes feeling the weather is better than the forecast 

[Rondaz]

SpaceX is hoping for a clearing in the weather over Cape Canaveral tonight to allow a Falcon 9 rocket to begin another satellite delivery mission for Eutelsat. Liftoff with the Eutelsat 10B satellite is set for 9:57pm EST (0257 GMT).

https://twitter.com/SpaceflightNow/status/1595230725842010112

[Steven Pietrobon]

Spaceflight Now livestream. Weather looks a bit better than this afternoon.

[Steven Pietrobon]

T-38 minutes. Mission control should be verifying go for propellant loading.

Credit Spaceflight Now.

[Steven Pietrobon]

T-35 minutes. First stage LOX and RP-1 and second stage RP-1 loading should be starting about now.

Credit Spaceflight Now.

[Steven Pietrobon]

T-30 minutes. Vapour coming off first stage, indicating that propellant loading has started.

Credit Spaceflight Now.

[Steven Pietrobon]

T-25 minutes. The NSF stream has started.

[Steven Pietrobon]

Stage 1 pogo.

Second stage RP-1 load is complete.

T-20 minute vent.

[Steven Pietrobon]

SpaceX mission control audio.

[Steven Pietrobon]

T-16 minutes. Second stage LOX loading has started.

Spacecraft is on internal power.

[Steven Pietrobon]

SpaceX stream has started.

[Steven Pietrobon]

T-10 minutes.

Credit Spaceflight Now.

[Steven Pietrobon]

T-7 minutes. Engine chill has started.

[Steven Pietrobon]

T-6 minutes. First stage RP-1 load is complete.

[Steven Pietrobon]

T-5 minutes. Pressurisation tanks for strongback retract.

[Steven Pietrobon]

T-4 minutes. Strongback is retracting.

[Steven Pietrobon]

T-3 minutes. First stage LOX load is complete. Stage 1 pogo.

[Steven Pietrobon]

T-2 minutes. Stage 2 LOX load is complete.

[Steven Pietrobon]

T-1 minute. Falcon 9 is in startup.

LD go for launch.

[Steven Pietrobon]

Liftoff! Go 1049!

[Steven Pietrobon]

T+1 minute.

[Steven Pietrobon]

T+2 minutes.

[Steven Pietrobon]

First stage separation.

T+3 minutes. Second stage ignition.

[Steven Pietrobon]

Fairing separation.

T+4 minutes.

[Steven Pietrobon]

T+5 minutes.

[Steven Pietrobon]

T+6 minutes.

[Steven Pietrobon]

T+7 minutes.

[Steven Pietrobon]

T+8 minutes.

[Steven Pietrobon]

Cutoff. Nominal orbit insertion.

[Steven Pietrobon]

T+10 minutes. Expected LOS Bermuda. Upcoming events.

00:26:18    2nd stage engine restarts (SES-2)
00:27:27    2nd stage engine cutoff (SECO-2)
00:35:28    Eutelsat 10B deploys

[refsmmat]

Looked like there was a Mars photobomb on the telescopic tracking at about T+2:08?

[Steven Pietrobon]

T+20 minutes. Approaching Africa.

[Steven Pietrobon]

AOS Gabon.

[Steven Pietrobon]

One minute to second ignition for 1 minute 9 seconds.

[Steven Pietrobon]

Second ignition.

[Steven Pietrobon]

Cutoff. Nominal orbit insertion.

[Steven Pietrobon]

Engine cooling down.

[Steven Pietrobon]

Some great views as we head off into space!

[Steven Pietrobon]

One minute to separation.

[Steven Pietrobon]

Separation!

AOS Maldives.

[Steven Pietrobon]

End of webcast.

Congratulations to SpaceX and Eutelsat for the successful launch!

[Steven Pietrobon]

Estimated supersynchronous orbit with 58,090.6 km apogee and 1639.8 m/s to GEO.

Enter initial perigee height (km): 312
Enter SpaceX speed (km/h): 35840
Enter initial orbit inclination (deg): 27

Estimated inertial speed = 10390.2 m/s
Estimated apogee height = 58090.6 km

Enter required inclination change (deg): 27
Enter final orbit height (km): -1
Geosynchronous altitude = 35786.0 km

Burn at 58090.6 km: theta1 = 25.64 deg, dv1 = 1324.1 m/s
Burn at 35786.0 km: theta2 =  1.36 deg, dv2 =  315.7 m/s
dv = 1639.8 m/s

[Herb Schaltegger]

Thanks as usual for the outstanding launch coverage tonight, Steven!

[LouScheffer]

Estimated supersynchronous orbit with 58,090.6 km apogee and 1639.8 m/s to GEO.

Enter initial perigee height (km): 312
Enter SpaceX speed (km/h): 35840
Enter initial orbit inclination (deg): 27

Estimated inertial speed = 10390.2 m/s
Estimated apogee height = 58090.6 km

Enter required inclination change (deg): 27
Enter final orbit height (km): -1
Geosynchronous altitude = 35786.0 km

Burn at 58090.6 km: theta1 = 25.64 deg, dv1 = 1324.1 m/s
Burn at 35786.0 km: theta2 =  1.36 deg, dv2 =  315.7 m/s
dv = 1639.8 m/s

I don't think this is right.  The first stage cutoff was about 400 m/s more than usual.  If you add this with no inclination change, you get an apogee of 87000 km or so.   But it's only 60000 km so the rest was used to reduce inclination.  By my figuring it should result in about only 21-22 degrees left to remove, and about 1570 m/s to GEO.

[jketch]

Targeted supersync orbit was 300km (+/-15km) x 60,000km (+/-840km) x 22.84 degrees.

https://twitter.com/StephenClark1/status/1595258793172017153

[FutureSpaceTourist]

https://twitter.com/nasaspaceflight/status/1595245137663336448

T-20 minute vent.

twitter.com/nasaspaceflight/status/1595250296560787457

SpaceX Falcon 9 B1049 launches on its final mission, with Eutelsat-10B from SLC-40. They found a gap in the weather!

Overview:
nasaspaceflight.com/2022/11/eutels…

NSF Livestream:
youtube.com/watch?v=zURkZr…

https://twitter.com/nasaspaceflight/status/1595250905238085632

Staging 1-2.

Farewell B1049, and we thank you.

[FutureSpaceTourist]

https://twitter.com/spacex/status/1595250210342461440

Liftoff!

https://twitter.com/spacex/status/1595259141911552000

Deployment of Eutelsat 10B confirmed

[FutureSpaceTourist]

twitter.com/julia_bergeron/status/1595254025833922561

Farwell B1049! The oldest booster in the fleet flew for a final time to deliver the Eutelsat-10B satellite to supersyncronous orbit. The weather cleared in time for Falcon to push through the clouds.

Visit @NASASpaceflight for more facts: https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2022/11/eutelsat-10b/

https://twitter.com/alexphysics13/status/1595255874720784384

B1049 on its last flight now becomes the first Falcon 9 booster to fly in 5 different calendar years. It flew once in 2018, twice in 2019, four times in 2020, three times in 2021, and one last time again in 2022.

Farewell, indeed!

[FutureSpaceTourist]

https://twitter.com/spacecoast_stve/status/1595262202101043200

10% GO, you say? Bah! 🚀

On its final flight, we wave goodbye to Falcon 9 booster B1049 as it sends Eutelsat-10B to space. It had a good run, with 11 flights dating back to Sept 10, 2018.

Read more about the booster and the overall mission: https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2022/11/eutelsat-10b/

[FutureSpaceTourist]

https://twitter.com/john_winkopp/status/1595257212766752768

From #CocoaBeach #Eutelsat 10B

[FutureSpaceTourist]

https://twitter.com/johnkrausphotos/status/1595255845704671232

Falcon 9 launches the Eutelsat 10B satellite to orbit from Cape Canaveral, Florida at 9:57 p.m. EST this evening

https://twitter.com/johnkrausphotos/status/1595255442523181056

Falcon 9 launches the Eutelsat 10B satellite to orbit from Cape Canaveral, Florida at 9:57 p.m. EST this evening

[FutureSpaceTourist]

https://twitter.com/jerrypikephoto/status/1595254752216072192

Liftoff of Eutelsat 10-B! Watch as SpaceX Falcon 9 goes supersonic and leaving behind two rainbow rings in the atmosphere!

[FutureSpaceTourist]

Launch photo from SpaceX website

[FutureSpaceTourist]

https://twitter.com/tskelso/status/1595341964572266497

CelesTrak has GP data for 1 object from the launch (2022-157) of EUTELSAT 10B atop a Falcon 9 rocket from Cape Canaveral on Nov 23 at 0257 UTC: https://www.supercluster.com/launches/eutelsat-10b

[catdlr]

On its final flight, we wave goodbye to Falcon 9 booster B1049 as it sends Eutelsat-10B to space. It had a good run, with 11 flights dating back to Sept 10, 2018.

May B1049 Rest In Pieces (RIP)

[mn]

Estimated supersynchronous orbit with 58,090.6 km apogee and 1639.8 m/s to GEO.

Enter initial perigee height (km): 312
Enter SpaceX speed (km/h): 35840
Enter initial orbit inclination (deg): 27

Estimated inertial speed = 10390.2 m/s
Estimated apogee height = 58090.6 km

Enter required inclination change (deg): 27
Enter final orbit height (km): -1
Geosynchronous altitude = 35786.0 km

Burn at 58090.6 km: theta1 = 25.64 deg, dv1 = 1324.1 m/s
Burn at 35786.0 km: theta2 =  1.36 deg, dv2 =  315.7 m/s
dv = 1639.8 m/s

I don't think this is right.  The first stage cutoff was about 400 m/s more than usual.  If you add this with no inclination change, you get an apogee of 87000 km or so.   But it's only 60000 km so the rest was used to reduce inclination.  By my figuring it should result in about only 21-22 degrees left to remove, and about 1570 m/s to GEO.

It's amazing how accurate you are, not the first time you predicted the orbit using math before the TLE is published.

It's not surprising that math works but it's still amazing to see.

[scr00chy]

The latest NSF Cape flyover video has shots of B1049 without payload out on the pad for a static fire, but I can't find confirmation of when the SF actually happened. Was it on the 21st?

[Rondaz]

Fair winds & following seas, B1049

https://twitter.com/_mgde_/status/1595253801073737728

[Rondaz]

Successful launch of #EUTELSAT10B: a #satellite bringing new inflight & maritime #connectivity services!"Congratulations to all involved, from @Thales_Alenia_S to @SpaceX & the dedicated #Eutelsat launch campaign team" - @Eutelsat_SA CEO Eva Berneke

https://twitter.com/Eutelsat_SA/status/1595333742033346561

[Rondaz]

Successful launch of EUTELSAT 10B telecom satellite http://thls.co/3BzY50LLJ20 A new-generation #satellite delivering connectivity for the aviation and maritime sectors.

https://twitter.com/Thales_Alenia_S/status/1595329610480336897

[Rondaz]

Update / Update

After more than 4 years of service, the Booster B1049 performs its last mission and moves to the left side of the infographic.

https://twitter.com/SpaceNosey/status/1595313798105145344

[Rondaz]

Orbital Launch no. 162 of 2022

SpaceX #Falcon9 expendable booster #B1049-11 successfully launched the #Eutelsat10B to Geo Synchronous Transfer Orbit.

https://twitter.com/nkknspace/status/1595288438386794496

[Rondaz]

Update..

Recent launch of #Eutelsat10B mission via #SpaceX's #Falcon9 vehicle..

Booster supported this mission..

https://twitter.com/_rykllan/status/1595358397406248960

[Rondaz]

Eutelsat 10B launch was:

11th flight of B1049 booster
53rd SpaceX launch this year
127th re-flight of booster
158th successful Falcon 9 launch in a row
162nd successful SpaceX launch in row
186th launch of Falcon 9
195th launch for SpaceX

https://twitter.com/PerAsperaAdMars/status/1595259257334661120

[Rondaz]

Eutelsat 10B mission profile for @ElonXnet website..

https://twitter.com/_rykllan/status/1595403913045450752

[Rondaz]

SpaceX now currently has 16 active Falcon 9 boosters:

• B1052-7
• B1053-2
• B1058-14
• B1060-14
• B1061-10
• B1062-10
• B1063-8
• B1064-1
• B1065-1
• B1067-7
• B1069-3
• B1071-5
• B1073-4
• B1076-0
• B1077-1
• B1078-0

In November, we lost three boosters (B1066, B1051 & B1049).

But at the same time, we got some brand new ones that joined the fleet!

https://twitter.com/JennyHPhoto/status/1595462271920128000

[refsmmat]

Looked like there was a Mars photobomb on the telescopic tracking at about T+2:08?

[FutureSpaceTourist]

SpaceX launch photo

[OneSpeed]

Here is a comparison of the webcast telemetry from the Galaxy 31-32 and Eutelsat 10B missions, both of which expended the booster on the way to super-synchronous transfer orbits. The payload masses were about 6,600 and 5,500kg respectively.

Differences in the launch to LEO were that Eutelsat spent a couple of seconds longer in the throttle bucket, inserted 3km higher at 168km, and some 80m/s faster (7,907m/s in the orbital frame of reference), for a higher apogee.

From the vis-visa equation, and assuming that altitude at injection to LEO is at perigee, the coast orbits were:
G31-32 165 x 200km
E-10B  168 x 480km

At insertion to GTO, assuming a starting orbital inclination of 28.5°, then the total ΔV required for a combined injection and plane change is:

G31-32 10,509m/s - 7,827m/s = 2,682m/s plus 4.3° plane change at 198km = 80m/s. √2,682² + 80² = 2,683m/s.
E-10B  10,465m/s - 7,907m/s = 2,558m/s plus 5.72° plane change at 261km = 104m/s. √2,558² + 104² = 2,560m/s.

So, the ~1,100kg payload difference corresponded to a ΔV difference of ~123m/s.

[LouScheffer]

Here is a comparison of the webcast telemetry from the Galaxy 31-32 and Eutelsat 10B missions, both of which expended the booster on the way to super-synchronous transfer orbits. The payload masses were about 6,600 and 5,500kg respectively.

Differences in the launch to LEO were that Eutelsat spent a couple of seconds longer in the throttle bucket, inserted 3km higher at 168km, and some 80m/s faster (7,907m/s in the orbital frame of reference), for a higher apogee.

From the vis-visa equation, and assuming that altitude at injection to LEO is at perigee, the coast orbits were:
G31-32 165 x 200km
E-10B  168 x 480km

At insertion to GTO, assuming a starting orbital inclination of 28.5°, then the total ΔV required for a combined injection and plane change is:

G31-32 10,509m/s - 7,827m/s = 2,682m/s plus 4.3° plane change at 198km = 80m/s. √2,682² + 80² = 2,683m/s.
E-10B  10,465m/s - 7,907m/s = 2,558m/s plus 5.72° plane change at 261km = 104m/s. √2,558² + 104² = 2,560m/s.

So, the ~1,100kg payload difference corresponded to a ΔV difference of ~123m/s.

I get different numbers but the same general conclusion. Here's how I try this computation (spreadsheet):

From the webcast, we get the altitude at SECO, and the altitude at GTO injection.  I assume the SECO altitude is the perigee.  The injection happens 1/4 of the way around the orbit, so it's half way to apogee, which is 1/2 way around the orbit.  This is not precisely linear, but as the orbits are so close to circular it's close.  So the apogee is about twice the delta of injection.  For example, for Eutelsat10, SECO is at 164 km, GTO injection at 293 km, so I guess an apogee of 422 km.

Next, for any orbit, given the perigee and apogee you can find the semimajor axis a = (perigee + apogee)/2 + Rearth, where Rearth is the Earth's radius.  From this you can find the speed at any radius r from v = sqrt(mu*(2/r - 1/a)).  So find the speed at the injection height.

Now do the same for the GTO orbit using the apogee and perigee from the TLEs.  Find the velocity at perigee.  If there is no plane change, the difference between these number is the delta-V required.

But in these two cases there is a plane change.  This needs to be computed as a vector sum, and depends quite strongly on the original velocity coming in.  Referring to the diagram below, the cross component is VFinal*sin(theta), and the along-existing-trajectory component is Vfinal*cos(theta)-Voriginal.  These are then combined using sqrt of sum of squares.

Anyway, after all this thrashing, it appears Eutelsat10 used about 144 m/s more for GTO injection than Galaxy31.  This is surprisingly low, as the next section below (using the rocket equation dV = Vexhaust*ln(Mstart/Mfinal) ) indicates the second stage alone should gain 293 m/s just from reducing the payload mass from 6.6 to 5.5 tonnes.  On top of that, Eutelsat10 also got about 34 m/s more out of the first stage.  From this, it appears Eutelsat 10 could have been delivered into an even better orbit. I have no idea why this is not the case.

[FutureSpaceTourist]

https://twitter.com/spaceoffshore/status/1596152201717506048

Arrival! Doug returns to Port Canaveral with both fairing halves from the Eutelsat-10B mission

nsf.live/spacecoast

[FutureSpaceTourist]

https://twitter.com/farryfaz/status/1596298504628236288

A Shortfall of Gravitas, Megan, and Bob returning to Port with fairings from Eutelsat-10B mission earlier this week. @GregScott_photo

[Steven Pietrobon]

I don't think this is right.  The first stage cutoff was about 400 m/s more than usual.  If you add this with no inclination change, you get an apogee of 87000 km or so.   But it's only 60000 km so the rest was used to reduce inclination.  By my figuring it should result in about only 21-22 degrees left to remove, and about 1570 m/s to GEO.

As it turns out, my program gave a good estimate of 58,090.6 km vs 60,000 km expected, despite entering an incorrect inclination of 27°. I get 60,117.6 km with the correct inclination and 1579.0 m/s to GEO.

Enter initial perigee height (km): 312
Enter SpaceX speed (km/h): 35840
Enter initial orbit inclination (deg): 22.84

Estimated inertial speed = 10405.2 m/s
Estimated apogee height = 60117.6 km

Enter required inclination change (deg): 22.84
Enter final orbit height (km): -1
Geosynchronous altitude = 35786.0 km

Burn at 60117.6 km: theta1 = 21.62 deg, dv1 = 1244.9 m/s
Burn at 35786.0 km: theta2 =  1.22 deg, dv2 =  334.0 m/s
dv = 1579.0 m/s

[FutureSpaceTourist]

https://twitter.com/spaceoffshore/status/1596902097865146369

Offloading of fairing halves from Eutelsat-10B today from Doug.

twitter.com/omgfyitbh/status/1596893220943773696

View from my porthole this morning. Megan and Doug alongside and two fairing halves being lifted ashore.
@SpaceOffshore
#spacexfleet #SpaceX #spacecoast

[gongora]

Satellite is up to 10163 x 67043 km, 7.64 deg

[GWR64]

Almost in GEO
Eutelsat 10B is at longitude 1.5 - 1.6 deg. East.
Screenshot Celestrak:

[GWR64]

Alongside:
I have looked at pictures, videos of Eutelsat 10B and after that also of Konnect VHTS and Hotbird 13F (I think 13G is the same).
In my opinion, they all still use Hall Effect Thruster SPT-140D from OKB Fakel.
I had assumed these would be replaced by Safran's PPS®5000 Hall Effect Thruster.
The two are very similar, the performance is about the same.
But the PPS®5000 has a square faceplate, which I don't see on any of these satellites.
The SPT-140D doesn't have that.

https://www.safran-group.com/products-services/ppsr5000-plasma-thruster
https://www.roscosmos.online/168.en.html

[zubenelgenubi]

[Re: Eutelsat 10B, Konnect VHTS, Hotbird 13F, and 13G]

In my opinion, they all still use Hall Effect Thruster SPT-140D from OKB Fakel.

I had assumed these would be replaced by Safran's PPS®5000 Hall Effect Thruster.

The two are very similar, the performance is about the same.

But the PPS®5000 has a square faceplate, which I don't see on any of these satellites.

The SPT-140D doesn't have that.

Might these four satellites have used the last four OKB Fakel units in stock at Thales Alenia Space and Airbus Defence and Space, respectively?

[GWR64]

[Re: Eutelsat 10B, Konnect VHTS, Hotbird 13F, and 13G]

In my opinion, they all still use Hall Effect Thruster SPT-140D from OKB Fakel.

I had assumed these would be replaced by Safran's PPS®5000 Hall Effect Thruster.

The two are very similar, the performance is about the same.

But the PPS®5000 has a square faceplate, which I don't see on any of these satellites.

The SPT-140D doesn't have that.

Might these four satellites have used the last four OKB Fakel units in stock at Thales Alenia Space and Airbus Defence and Space, respectively?

Well, the matter remains a mystery. Safran writes the Hotbirds have PPS®5000.
https://fr.linkedin.com/posts/xavier-cavelan-aa539b43_go-pps5000-go-activity-6986956991902457856-v9yO?trk=public_profile_like_view
Visually, it doesn't look like that to me.
https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=54125.msg2407511#msg2407511

But back to Eutelsat-10B.
Apparently the migration from 10A to 10B is planned for July.
https://www.eumetsat.int/change-eumetcast-europe-prime-satellite

EUMETCast Europe Prime Satellite will be migrated from Eutelsat-10A to Eutelsat-10B in July 2023.
Published on

27 April 2023

Eutelsat-10A (E10A) satellite, located at 10˚ East, currently used to provide the EUMETCast Europe service, is nearing the end of its operational life. Therefore, a new satellite, Eutelsat-10B (E10B), was launched in November 2022, as a replacement to E10A.
...
The transponder migration is scheduled to take place between 18 and 20 July 2023, with exact date to be announced in due course.

[GWR64]

Eutelsat-10B is still at test position 1.6° E.
While on Eutelsat-10A seems to have given up the north/south correction since mid April.
The inclination of Eutelsat-10A is now 0.22 deg and increasing.

[GWR64]

Eutelsat-10B has arrived at 10° E.

[GewoonLukas_]

Eutelsat-10B has arrived at 10° E.

Satellite has entered service:
https://www.eutelsat.com/en/news/press.html#/pressreleases/successful-entry-into-service-of-the-multi-mission-eutelsat-10b-satellite-3265294
[July 24]