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NASA bringing back the 'worm' logo
« on: 04/02/2020 05:25 pm »
No, this is not a belated April Fool's joke. This is actually happening.

Jim Bridenstine kicked-off the announcement by showing the 'worm' painted on the SpaceX booster that will be used for DM-2.

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Unlike previous logo changes, this isn't a full replacement. This time NASA plans to have the 'worm' and 'meatball' co-exist.

Quote from: NASA
The worm is back. And just in time to mark the return of human spaceflight on American rockets from American soil.

The retro, modern design of the agency’s logo will help capture the excitement of a new, modern era of human spaceflight on the side of the Falcon 9 launch vehicle that will ferry astronauts to the International Space Station as part of the Demo-2 flight, now scheduled for mid- to late May.

And there’s a good chance you’ll see the logo featured in other official ways on this mission and in the future. The agency is still assessing how and where it will be used, exactly.

NASA also emphasizes that the 'meatball' will remain NASA's "primary symbol," likely to reassure fans of the 'meatball' that the iconic symbol is not going away anytime soon.

Still, it seems what's old is new again as we enter this exciting era of space exploration.
« Last Edit: 04/02/2020 06:01 pm by jadebenn »

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Re: NASA bringing back the 'worm' logo
« Reply #1 on: 04/02/2020 05:46 pm »
Please tell me that bringing back NASA 1975 to save 2020 does not require us to also bring back disco.

If it does, this is likely the point in history where a young Melissa Lewis discovers both spaceflight and disco, then creates an ungodly use of it as commander of the ill-fated Ares III mission. We can blame Bridenstine for Mark Watney's later torment.  ;D
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Re: NASA bringing back the 'worm' logo
« Reply #2 on: 04/02/2020 07:06 pm »
According to the "Incorrect Uses" on page 1.6 (example 9), "The logotype should never be shown on a vertical axis. It is designed to rest on its horizontal baseline."

So, when DM-2 is sitting on the launch pad, it will be in violation of the Graphics Standard Manual.  ;D
« Last Edit: 04/02/2020 07:06 pm by spaceprincess »

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Re: NASA bringing back the 'worm' logo
« Reply #3 on: 04/02/2020 07:12 pm »
According to the "Incorrect Uses" on page 1.6 (example 9), "The logotype should never be shown on a vertical axis. It is designed to rest on its horizontal baseline."

So, when DM-2 is sitting on the launch pad, it will be in violation of the Graphics Standard Manual.  ;D

Wouldn't be the first time that NASA violates its own rules.

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Re: NASA bringing back the 'worm' logo
« Reply #4 on: 04/02/2020 07:35 pm »
So, when DM-2 is sitting on the launch pad, it will be in violation of the Graphics Standard Manual.  ;D
I'm not sure how you deal with this when you have horizontal integration and vertical launch, unless you make the logo rotatable.

The same was true of the worms on the sides of the Space Shuttle IIRC.
« Last Edit: 04/02/2020 07:37 pm by ccdengr »

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Re: NASA bringing back the 'worm' logo
« Reply #5 on: 04/02/2020 07:43 pm »
The shuttle had the Worm in both orientations.  So yes and no.
Maybe Dragon will have a Worm horizontal.

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Re: NASA bringing back the 'worm' logo
« Reply #6 on: 04/02/2020 07:48 pm »
As far as I can tell, the RED version of the worm logo has never flown on a NASA rocket.

Challenger sported a Gray Worm logo on the top of it's wing.

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Re: NASA bringing back the 'worm' logo
« Reply #7 on: 04/02/2020 07:58 pm »
As far as I can tell, the RED version of the worm logo has never flown on a NASA rocket.

Challenger sported a Gray Worm logo on the top of it's wing.
I wanted to disagree with you, but you're right. The ones on the old Shuttle liveries were either gray or black.

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Re: NASA bringing back the 'worm' logo
« Reply #8 on: 04/02/2020 09:37 pm »
As far as I can tell, the RED version of the worm logo has never flown on a NASA rocket.
Are the orientation rules different for different colors?

You may be right, looks like Mars Observer had gray: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2a/Commercial_Titan_3_launching_Mars_Observer.jpg/1200px-Commercial_Titan_3_launching_Mars_Observer.jpg

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Re: NASA bringing back the 'worm' logo
« Reply #9 on: 04/02/2020 10:04 pm »
According to the "Incorrect Uses" on page 1.6 (example 9), "The logotype should never be shown on a vertical axis. It is designed to rest on its horizontal baseline."

So, when DM-2 is sitting on the launch pad, it will be in violation of the Graphics Standard Manual.  ;D
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Re: NASA bringing back the 'worm' logo
« Reply #10 on: 04/02/2020 10:08 pm »
According to the "Incorrect Uses" on page 1.6 (example 9), "The logotype should never be shown on a vertical axis. It is designed to rest on its horizontal baseline."

So, when DM-2 is sitting on the launch pad, it will be in violation of the Graphics Standard Manual.  ;D

I think that the rules regarding the logo's orientation relate to how it is rendered, as in:

Correct: NASA

Incorrect:
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And I'll echo a "Welcome" as well :)

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Re: NASA bringing back the 'worm' logo
« Reply #11 on: 04/03/2020 12:09 am »
Worm = Unmanned
Meatball = Manned

Prove me wrong.  8)

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Re: NASA bringing back the 'worm' logo
« Reply #12 on: 04/03/2020 12:13 am »
Worm = Unmanned
Meatball = Manned

Prove me wrong.  8)

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Re: NASA bringing back the 'worm' logo
« Reply #13 on: 04/03/2020 12:34 am »
I'll admit I was sure this was an April Fool's joke when I saw it, and thought it was great that Bridenstine would tweet such an obvious photoshop job.

I hope they do not bring this logo back often and overdo it, but for this mission it will make it distinctive and will provide a great opening to talk about the agency's storied past as we return crewed launches to USA.

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Re: NASA bringing back the 'worm' logo
« Reply #14 on: 04/03/2020 01:24 am »
Challenger

I was speaking more from a branding point of view.

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Re: NASA bringing back the 'worm' logo
« Reply #15 on: 04/03/2020 01:34 am »
https://i.stack.imgur.com/8JPNP.jpg

"NASA Administrator very excited to unveil new NASA insignia"
"Is that a pitot in your pocket, or are you just happy to see me?"

Add your own caption!
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Re: NASA bringing back the 'worm' logo
« Reply #16 on: 04/03/2020 03:23 am »
The worm will look nice all sooted up.

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Re: NASA bringing back the 'worm' logo
« Reply #17 on: 04/03/2020 03:29 am »
Challenger

I was speaking more from a branding point of view.

If you want to make a particular point be specific.

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Re: NASA bringing back the 'worm' logo
« Reply #18 on: 04/03/2020 05:10 am »
As a designer, I managed to snag a reprint of the NASA Graphics Standards Manual Jan, 1976.

Design is a funny thing. Standards are generally adhered to, however they should allow for exceptions when appropriate (and often they will provide discretionary decisions in certain situations). Interestingly, the Solar Maximum mission appears to be one of these exceptions, depending on how you look at it. I think the Falcon 9 is in the same boat.

The following are the most relevant pages.

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Re: NASA bringing back the 'worm' logo
« Reply #19 on: 04/03/2020 12:18 pm »
As far as I can tell, the RED version of the worm logo has never flown on a NASA rocket.
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Maybe not on a rocket, yet the red logo featured prominently on a number of satellites/space missions, like the Hubble Space Telescope (logo is now covered by newer thermal blankets), Galileo, or Spacelab subsystems.

I actually like the worm logo for its simple typeface and "timeless" futuristic look...

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