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Venus Aerospace
« on: 06/15/2020 04:52 am »
Looks like we've got another rocket startup in Southern California, this time in Seal Beach: Venus Aerospace. Founded by a former Virgin Orbit power couple: Andrew and Sassie Duggleby, with Andrew acting as CTO and Sassie acting as CEO.

Pitch:
Manufacturing of aerospace devices intended to build the next generation of rocket engines and space planes which will change the process of global travel. The company's device focus on latest rocket technologies that can be used in the 1990's revolutionary airframes to improve global travel, enabling users to travel more efficiently and in less time.

Looks like they were founded in 2019 with $70k seed money and its gotten enough traction that they both left their careers at Virgin Orbit this month (via LinkedIn).

Their website shows a pretty slick and novel looking aircraft, apparently designed with hypersonics in mind. Not much else there.

Founders:
Andrew Duggleby has a PhD in mechanical engineering, is a PE, and was with Virgin Orbit for about 5 years, first in propulsion then in launch operations. While in propulsion, he headed the advanced manufacturing group. His publication list is pretty long (pdf) and spans a bunch of turbulent flow and heat transfer.

Sassie Duggleby has a BS in biomedical engineering and an MBA and was consulting with Virgin Orbit for 2 years. Prior to that it appears she worked at a variety of start-ups (including one she owned with Andrew in Texas: Exosent) and working with SBIRs. She maintains a much lower profile, so I can't find much else.

I'm not sure what to make of their company with the limited information available, but the render makes for a cool poster or desktop background.

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Re: Venus Aerospace
« Reply #1 on: 06/15/2020 06:26 am »
I'm not sure what to make of their company with the limited information available, but the render makes for a cool poster or desktop background.
In fact there's nothing else there.  :(

Hmm. As a space startup it makes a cool desktop.

Is that really what the want to be known for?

They sure picked a hell of a time to start a company.
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Re: Venus Aerospace
« Reply #2 on: 09/23/2020 03:11 pm »
Looks like they're starting to take their first steps and hiring their first employees:
* Principal Test & Development Engineer

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Your Mission
* Design and fabrication of the Cryogenic Rocket Engine Stand, Trailerized (CREST)
* Design and implement data acquisition systems
* Prepare and execute testing procedures and programs
* Help build the world’s most integrated Engineering Enterprise System

Mobile test stands are becoming quite popular, between them, ABL Space Systems, and Launcher Space.

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Re: Venus Aerospace
« Reply #3 on: 04/11/2022 03:45 pm »
This company has been in the news a bit a lately. First and foremost, they've secured $20M in a Series A funding round.

Quote from: PR News Wire
Venus Aerospace is building a zero-carbon emission spaceplane that will enable one-hour global travel. One year after closing its $3 million seed round, the company will use this new round of funding to mature its three main technologies: a next-generation rocket engine, innovative aircraft shape and leading-edge cooling, which allows the spaceplane to take off from existing spaceports, using existing infrastructure.

Their website was also updated and includes those same three technologies. The "Improved Engine Efficiency" is plastered on top of a picture of an aerospike (here we go again). They mention a "next generation zero-carbon emission hypersonic engine", implying LOx/LH2The original aircraft rendering isn't posted anymore.

A Medium Post by Prime Movers Lab, the principal investor outlines why they invested, including some additional details, most notably specifying that the engine is a rotating detonation engine (RDE).

Quote from: PR News Wire
With this round, Venus has raised $33M in total funding, including $1 million of non-dilutive government funding.

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Over the last year, Venus secured government contracts and scaled fast. Venus designed and built its tech demonstration engine, executed key experiments at hypersonic wind tunnels and propulsion test facilities throughout the U.S., and started a ground test campaign at Spaceport Houston.

The Medium post indicates they have an engine test stand in Houston Spaceport. The government contract includes an AFWERX Phase 1 STTR for the leading-edge cooling design and they're currently working on Phase II.

Quote from: PR News Wire
"We are excited to continue our partnership with Prime Movers Lab and our other great investors. In the past year, with our initial funding, we have scaled from 3 people to 40. These are the world's best rocket scientists, engineers, and operators," said Sassie Duggleby, CEO and co-founder. "With this funding, we will continue to push forward toward our next technical milestones, hire great people, and scale our organization.  We are excited to continue engineering the future of high-speed aviation."

You can see a lot of these people on their about page which includes a 1-minute fluff video that feels a bit like a low-budget stock footage with people talking, pointing at things, and writing on white boards.

You get a team photo of 25 of them and the typical headshots of C-suites. This time it adds Brent Lytle as COO from Stratolaunch, Virgin Orbit, Blue Origin, and Millennium Space Systems. Another interesting add is Mandy Vaugh who was a big player for Virgin Orbit's VOX Space government-arm.

Cheddar has an interview with Sassie which mentions the target speed is Mach 9 and a rough idea of what the flight path is: cruise up to 35,000 ft with what seems like a conventional jet engine, then fire the engine for a boost phase for 10 minutes up to mach 9, then glide to target and eventually reignite the jet engines for approach and landing.

Timeline is 10 years with an engine and aircraft prototype in 5 years to start entering FAA certification.

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Re: Venus Aerospace
« Reply #4 on: 04/14/2022 02:19 pm »
At least they are not claiming 3 years to orbit.

Back in the day, companies that disappeared quickly would invoke aero spike engines or slush hydrogen. Same with DoD projects that were failing, so they flailed about invoking these exotic technologies.

Maybe these technologies are not so exotic now.

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Re: Venus Aerospace
« Reply #6 on: 08/20/2022 04:06 pm »
At least they are not claiming 3 years to orbit.

Back in the day, companies that disappeared quickly would invoke aero spike engines or slush hydrogen. Same with DoD projects that were failing, so they flailed about invoking these exotic technologies.

Maybe these technologies are not so exotic now.
No they still are.  :(

I'm not really sure what benefits RDE's bring to the table that makes their development such a good idea. Roughly speaking M9 gives you 2.25x the heating that M6 gives you which is the level of an F9 booster heating.

The double delta is roughly Concorde, or the Shuttle so not seeing anything special there. They are staying with H2, which is sensible, given the speed they want to get to.

It's a really nice rendering of a design, but TBH any aerospace freshman could have sketched something similar.

My questions always start with how the Cp and Cm shifts over 9 Mach numbers, and what are they going to do about it?

There's a reason the SR71 engines are mid wing and not at the rear, just as there is for REL's Skylon.

We'll see if they do better than Radian.  :(
« Last Edit: 08/21/2022 11:09 am by john smith 19 »
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Re: Venus Aerospace
« Reply #7 on: 10/28/2022 11:12 pm »


Looks like they have achieved their first hotfire using a heatsink chamber. Approx duration of 2 seconds.

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Re: Venus Aerospace
« Reply #8 on: 10/28/2022 11:41 pm »
Looks like the hotfire video was only part of a larger media package: Venus Aerospace Benchmarks New Hypersonic Engine

Quote from: Aviation Report
Engine testing was completed at Venus Aerospace Headquarters, located on Spaceport Houston, after 3 months of testing. The test stand was designed and built over 12 months, and all within 18 months of relocating the company from California to Houston.

Quote from: Aviation Report
Venus will begin hypersonic RDRE flight testing with a 20-foot drone to support both national security and internal technology development.
So there's their mechanism for subscale testing and generating revenue from government contracts to help keep them afloat while they work on Stargazer (looks like they have a trademark for that now?).

Quote from: Aviation Report
Venus Aerospace is the first company to demonstrate [an RDE with] this particular room-temperature storable propellant combination.

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Re: Venus Aerospace
« Reply #9 on: 10/30/2022 11:32 pm »
Looks like the hotfire video was only part of a larger media package: Venus Aerospace Benchmarks New Hypersonic Engine

Quote from: Aviation Report
Engine testing was completed at Venus Aerospace Headquarters, located on Spaceport Houston, after 3 months of testing. The test stand was designed and built over 12 months, and all within 18 months of relocating the company from California to Houston.

Quote from: Aviation Report
Venus will begin hypersonic RDRE flight testing with a 20-foot drone to support both national security and internal technology development.
So there's their mechanism for subscale testing and generating revenue from government contracts to help keep them afloat while they work on Stargazer (looks like they have a trademark for that now?).

Quote from: Aviation Report
Venus Aerospace is the first company to demonstrate [an RDE with] this particular room-temperature storable propellant combination.

Room temp storable means non-hydrogen RDE which is a sorta important milestone. The added complexities are nothing to laugh at.

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Re: Venus Aerospace
« Reply #10 on: 06/11/2023 02:16 pm »
https://twitter.com/PrimeMoversLab/status/1541828522703978497
The publicly released CG image of the Stargazer reminds me in a few respects of the depiction of the putative hypersonic spyplane dubbed "Aurora" by some publications in the November 1988 issue of Popular Science, namely the positioning of horizontal stabilizers.

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Re: Venus Aerospace
« Reply #11 on: 07/13/2023 09:01 pm »
Room temp storable means non-hydrogen RDE which is a sorta important milestone. The added complexities are nothing to laugh at.

Looks like it's Jet-A and hydrogen peroxide.

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/space/article/houston-spaceplane-startup-18192717.php#photo-24017316

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The couple has raised $52 million to develop a hypersonic spaceplane.

They chose Houston because it promised a one-stop shop for daily business operations, vehicle development and engine testing. The company’s 72 full-time employees could combine the best parts of aviation and rocketry at a 30,000-square-foot facility near their homes.

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Tickets will likely cost two to eight times more than the roughly $12,000 to $15,000 that first-class travelers are paying for flights between California and Asia, said Andrew Duggleby. He said surveys suggest first-class customers would pay more to shave hours off their flight time.

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Re: Venus Aerospace
« Reply #12 on: 08/12/2023 01:19 am »
Room temp storable means non-hydrogen RDE which is a sorta important milestone. The added complexities are nothing to laugh at.

Looks like it's Jet-A and hydrogen peroxide.

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/space/article/houston-spaceplane-startup-18192717.php#photo-24017316

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The couple has raised $52 million to develop a hypersonic spaceplane.

They chose Houston because it promised a one-stop shop for daily business operations, vehicle development and engine testing. The company’s 72 full-time employees could combine the best parts of aviation and rocketry at a 30,000-square-foot facility near their homes.

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Tickets will likely cost two to eight times more than the roughly $12,000 to $15,000 that first-class travelers are paying for flights between California and Asia, said Andrew Duggleby. He said surveys suggest first-class customers would pay more to shave hours off their flight time.
Kudos to Venus Aerospace for taking a critical first step to making components for their proposed Stargazer concept work.

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Re: Venus Aerospace
« Reply #13 on: 05/16/2025 04:37 pm »
https://twitter.com/VenusAerospace/status/1923065827315605910

Venus Aerospace Completes Historic U.S. Hypersonic Engine Flight Test [May 14]

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Venus Aerospace, announced today it successfully completed the first U.S. flight test of a next-generation rocket engine: a Rotating Detonation Rocket Engine (RDRE). This milestone marks a breakthrough in American aerospace, with a design ultimately aimed at enabling vehicles to travel four to six times the speed of sound from a conventional runway.

Theorized since the 1980s, a high-thrust RDRE capable of practical application has never been flown in the United States—and possibly anywhere in the world. Today's test represents the first-ever flight of an American-developed engine of its kind, proving that Venus's proprietary RDRE—an affordable, compact propulsion system delivering unprecedented efficiency and thrust—can operate under real-world conditions.

"This is the moment we've been working toward for five years," said Sassie Duggleby, CEO and Co-founder of Venus Aerospace. "We've proven that this technology works—not just in simulations or the lab, but in the air. With this milestone, we're one step closer to making high-speed flight accessible, affordable, and sustainable."

The demonstration took place at Spaceport America in New Mexico, following a night of heavy winds. On the first flight attempt, Venus's RDRE successfully launched and flew its engine, validating performance and system integrity under flight conditions.

"Spaceport America was created to make space history, and Venus Aerospace delivered a milestone moment for hypersonics today," said Scott McLaughlin, Executive Director, Spaceport America. "Getting a rotating detonation rocket engine to the launch pad is an achievement few thought possible in such a short time. We're thrilled to host innovators like Venus, whose breakthroughs are redefining what's possible in spaceflight."

Compared to traditional rocket engines, RDREs offer improved efficiency and compactness, making them particularly suited for advanced aerospace applications. Venus's engine is designed to be affordable and scalable for both defense and commercial systems, including future vehicles that could fly passengers from Los Angeles to Tokyo in under two hours.

"This milestone is a testament to what's possible when engineering rigor meets entrepreneurial urgency," said Dr. Rodney Bowersox, Associate Dean for Research and Professor of Aerospace Engineering, Texas A&M University. "Rotating detonation rocket engines have been a scientific curiosity for decades. Venus is showing the world that they aren't just academically interesting—they're buildable, testable, and operational under real-world conditions. This is how aerospace innovation should look."

Venus's RDRE is also engineered to work with the company's exclusive VDR2 air-breathing detonation ramjet. This pairing enables aircraft to take off from a runway and transition to speeds exceeding Mach 6, maintaining hypersonic cruise without the need for rocket boosters. Venus is planning full-scale propulsion testing and vehicle integration of this system, moving toward their ultimate goal: the Stargazer M4, a Mach 4 reusable passenger aircraft.

"This milestone proves our engine works outside the lab, under real flight conditions," added Andrew Duggleby, Co-founder and Chief Technology Officer. "Rotating detonation has been a long-sought gain in performance. Venus' RDRE solved the last but critical steps to harness the theoretical benefits of pressure gain combustion. We've built an engine that not only runs, but runs reliably and efficiently—and that's what makes it scalable. This is the foundation we need that, combined with a ramjet, completes the system from take-off to sustained hypersonic flight."
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Re: Venus Aerospace
« Reply #14 on: 05/16/2025 06:12 pm »
couple of more angles:

Venus Aerospace completes first US flight test of Rotating Detonation Rocket Engine

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Re: Venus Aerospace
« Reply #15 on: 06/12/2025 10:26 pm »
Texas startup making history with revolutionary rocket engine



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Re: Venus Aerospace
« Reply #16 on: 06/18/2025 08:51 am »
Hehe “revolutionary”, good pun  :)
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Re: Venus Aerospace
« Reply #17 on: 07/03/2025 02:26 am »
https://twitter.com/ToughSf/status/1670461371404673026

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Venus Aerospace claims a 10% gain in Isp over 'conventional engines' with its Rotating Detonation Rocket.
That's like taking a Merlin-1D from its sea level Isp (282s) to its vacuum Isp (310s).
https://businesswire.com/news/home/20230614101570/en/Airbus-Ventures-Invests-in-Venus-Aerospace
Their rocket engines will be used to fly a Mach 3 drone.
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Re: Venus Aerospace
« Reply #18 on: 07/03/2025 01:14 pm »
https://twitter.com/ToughSf/status/1670461371404673026

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Venus Aerospace claims a 10% gain in Isp over 'conventional engines' with its Rotating Detonation Rocket.
That's like taking a Merlin-1D from its sea level Isp (282s) to its vacuum Isp (310s).
https://businesswire.com/news/home/20230614101570/en/Airbus-Ventures-Invests-in-Venus-Aerospace
Their rocket engines will be used to fly a Mach 3 drone.
Which doesn't sound impressive on its own, until you realise that RDE's don't need the extreme injection pressures (and thus high power turbomachinery) of traditionally injected rocket engines.
Instead of thinking of them as achieving the same ISP as a gas-gen or staged-combustion engine but with a lower TRL, instead think of RDREs as a replacement for pressure-fed engines with a dramatic ISP increase.

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Re: Venus Aerospace
« Reply #19 on: 07/03/2025 01:17 pm »
Let's see what the actual Isp and the actual T/W ratio is. Not 10% increase over an unspecified baseline.
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