Quote from: Req on 02/04/2017 01:47 pmAnd in the meantime SpaceX obviously just spouts fantasyland dreams off without looking into any of this. Got it. And arguing now = replying to people arguing with me after making a statement that couldn't have been interpreted as contradicting anything anybody was saying.I have no doubt SpaceX "looks into" many things - including many things that don't happen in practical reality. That's the nature of their jobs. You can speculate all you want in the threads about that. In the meantime, running off into frenzied imaginings based on one elevated cargo container on the deck of the barge - in the absence of any physical evidence to support said imaginings - is more than a bit tiresome to people who actually understand engineering and physics.
And in the meantime SpaceX obviously just spouts fantasyland dreams off without looking into any of this. Got it. And arguing now = replying to people arguing with me after making a statement that couldn't have been interpreted as contradicting anything anybody was saying.
Quote from: Herb Schaltegger on 02/04/2017 01:58 pmQuote from: Req on 02/04/2017 01:47 pmAnd in the meantime SpaceX obviously just spouts fantasyland dreams off without looking into any of this. Got it. And arguing now = replying to people arguing with me after making a statement that couldn't have been interpreted as contradicting anything anybody was saying.I have no doubt SpaceX "looks into" many things - including many things that don't happen in practical reality. That's the nature of their jobs. You can speculate all you want in the threads about that. In the meantime, running off into frenzied imaginings based on one elevated cargo container on the deck of the barge - in the absence of any physical evidence to support said imaginings - is more than a bit tiresome to people who actually understand engineering and physics.I'm sorry but right on it's face I'm going to take what you call their "imaginings" over what you call your "understanding of engineering and physics." Do you realize how absurd you sound?Nobody knows what they are doing with block 5 or the ASDS, but you definitely know what they aren't doing, and that is the only remaining thing they have said they would do to the ASDS which they haven't yet. Is that correct?
Nobody knows what they are doing with block 5 or the ASDS, but you definitely know what they aren't doing, and that is the only remaining thing they have said they would do to the ASDS which they haven't yet. Is that correct?
Clearly your grasp of the written word is on par with your understanding of engineering and physics. Do you realize how absurd you sound? The fact that you and you alone are willing to argue about exceedingly unlikely near-term major design changes - of which there is no evidence - should give you pause and give you a clue.But do carry on if it makes you happy. Or until a moderator tells you to stop arguing just to see your own words in print. Many people - the BEST people! - have subscribed to this thread and are no doubt annoyed by the barrage of notifications that have next to nothing to do with the ASDS as they exist today and as they will exist in the near term of the next 3 - 6 months. I will suggest again that if you want to blue-sky a bunch of concepts for autonomous booster servicing and fly-back, you do so in a dedicated thread.
Which can be said about any speculation that has been put forward at this point. If block 5 will include flyback, now would be a good time to start. There is limited known extended downtime windows between now and the end of the year and much work to do, as many have pointed out.
The acquisition of land and the construction of a refurbishing facility at Port Canaveral suggests that SpaceX intend to be returning cores by barge for some time yet.
Quote from: Req on 02/04/2017 03:15 pmWhich can be said about any speculation that has been put forward at this point. If block 5 will include flyback, now would be a good time to start working on the barge. There is limited known extended downtime windows between now and the end of the year and much work to do, as many have pointed out.First, this was about the barge, not about b5.Second, no - most speculations have a basis in reality.You can also speculate that b5 would have 12 engines. But there has been no indication of that.For flyback to occur, the changes to the barge will be more extensive than a raised container.
Which can be said about any speculation that has been put forward at this point. If block 5 will include flyback, now would be a good time to start working on the barge. There is limited known extended downtime windows between now and the end of the year and much work to do, as many have pointed out.
Quote from: meekGee on 02/04/2017 03:33 pmQuote from: Req on 02/04/2017 03:15 pmWhich can be said about any speculation that has been put forward at this point. If block 5 will include flyback, now would be a good time to start working on the barge. There is limited known extended downtime windows between now and the end of the year and much work to do, as many have pointed out.First, this was about the barge, not about b5.Second, no - most speculations have a basis in reality.You can also speculate that b5 would have 12 engines. But there has been no indication of that.For flyback to occur, the changes to the barge will be more extensive than a raised container.Added bold above. How would known downtime windows be relevant to work on b5?To clarify: They have said that b5 will be the last major revision of F9, and they have said that they intend for F9 to perform flyback from this design of ASDS. They haven't walked either back yet, and if both are true, then it may be smart to begin work on this large task of preparing the barge now due to the limited known extended downtime windows, which it was in at the time due to the planned expended stage.
Ok let's calm this one down, as it's fast turning into a Jim-style Q&A with Req.
How is our loved ship (we surly still love her) is doing? Any recent pictures?
But anyway - Container went up, something new, deck related, is the logical conclusion, I'm still going with securing the stage, using 4 Roomba self-propelled self-welding feet.
Quote from: meekGee on 02/04/2017 04:25 pmBut anyway - Container went up, something new, deck related, is the logical conclusion, I'm still going with securing the stage, using 4 Roomba self-propelled self-welding feet.Will these self-propelled feet drive around the ASDS deck at random until they each find a rocket leg?Matthew