Author Topic: SpaceX Falcon 9 : SAOCOM 1B : Cape Canaveral : August 30, 2020 (23:19 UTC)  (Read 173206 times)

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : SAOCOM 1B : March 2020 : Florida
« Reply #60 on: 02/12/2020 10:02 pm »
I think most (if not all) of dogleg is done by the S2. You really want to leave the atmosphere as fast as possible. Once you did that, you can add velocity much more efficiently and in pretty much any direction.

Just scooting past West Palm Beach is ~14 degrees east of south.
(That's going to shut down air traffic from at least West Palm Beach, Fort Lauderdale, and Miami.  Airlines are going to complain.)
Is it possible for the second stage to turn through that plus the ~7 degrees to the SSO inclination?
Twenty or so degrees doesn't sound excessive.
The vector math isn't that complex, but the answer isn't intuitively obvious.
What kind of wastrels would dump a perfectly good booster in the ocean after just one use?

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : SAOCOM 1B : March 2020 : Florida
« Reply #61 on: 02/12/2020 10:56 pm »
Ok, I thought it was the first stage doing the dogleg. The quote from the commanding officer was:

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Monteith did not detail the precise trajectory, but said it involved “a little jog shortly off the pad” to turn south once offshore, “and then we’d skirt Miami.”

The rocket’s first stage would drop safely before reaching Cuba, he said. The second stage would be so high up by the time it flew over the island that no special permissions would be required.
Source: https://eu.floridatoday.com/story/tech/science/space/2017/12/31/southbound-cape-rockets-may-fly-new-path-toward-poles/975027001/

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : SAOCOM 1B : March 2020 : Florida
« Reply #62 on: 02/18/2020 01:22 am »
https://twitter.com/CasaRosada/status/1229559514271232006
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This Friday the Argentine observation satellite Saocom1B leaves for Cape Canaveral.

 Its putting into orbit will be key to boost agricultural production, manage environmental emergencies and provide navigation data.
« Last Edit: 02/18/2020 01:22 am by gongora »

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : SAOCOM 1B : Mar. 30, 2020 : Florida
« Reply #63 on: 02/19/2020 05:55 pm »
SAOCOM 1B begins its journey to space
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The transfer will begin with the departure of the satellite from the INVAP / CEATSA facilities, in San Carlos de Bariloche, in a truck convoy that will transport about 42 tons of equipment to the airport. There they will be loaded on the Antonov AN 124 aircraft, which will take off from Argentine soil on Saturday 22 at dawn, bound for the SpaceX company facilities in Cape Canaveral, for preparations for the launch, scheduled for March 30.

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : SAOCOM 1B : Mar. 30, 2020 : Florida
« Reply #64 on: 02/20/2020 04:11 am »
SAOCOM 1B begins its journey to space
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The transfer will begin with the departure of the satellite from the INVAP / CEATSA facilities, in San Carlos de Bariloche, in a truck convoy that will transport about 42 tons of equipment to the airport. There they will be loaded on the Antonov AN 124 aircraft, which will take off from Argentine soil on Saturday 22 at dawn, bound for the SpaceX company facilities in Cape Canaveral, for preparations for the launch, scheduled for March 30.

Ben confirms March 30th and says it will likely occur around sunset EDT. It'll also be a RTLS booster landing profile.

http://www.launchphotography.com/Delta_4_Atlas_5_Falcon_9_Launch_Viewing.html

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : SAOCOM 1B : Mar. 30, 2020 : Florida
« Reply #65 on: 02/20/2020 01:26 pm »
That sound you just heard was every aspiring launch photographer on the east coast making travel plans.  Launch, polar orbit dogleg, and booster RTLS, all at sunset?  Yes please!

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : SAOCOM 1B : Mar. 30, 2020 : Florida
« Reply #66 on: 02/20/2020 02:41 pm »
Photographers probably wish everything launched into dawn/dusk orbits  :)

This appears to be SAOCOM 1B's ride heading down to Argentina.
https://www.flightradar24.com/VDA2351/23ec64f6

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : SAOCOM 1B : Mar. 30, 2020 : Florida
« Reply #67 on: 02/20/2020 04:54 pm »
https://twitter.com/CONAE_Oficial/status/1230545145021575170
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This is how the Antonov AN 124 plane arrived this morning at Bariloche airport to transport the #SAOCOM1B

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : SAOCOM 1B : Mar. 30, 2020 : Florida
« Reply #68 on: 02/20/2020 05:15 pm »
https://www.instagram.com/p/B8zBqAOggLH/?igshid=k095crkj1oen
From the Instagram post: plane departs Feb 22th, launches on 30th March.
« Last Edit: 02/20/2020 06:15 pm by baldusi »

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : SAOCOM 1B : Mar. 30, 2020 : Florida
« Reply #69 on: 02/20/2020 05:30 pm »
https://www.instagram.com/p/B8zBqAOggLH/?igshid=k095crkj1oen
From the Instagram post: plane departs Feb 23th, launches on 30th March.

23rd or 22nd?

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : SAOCOM 1B : Mar. 30, 2020 : Florida
« Reply #70 on: 02/20/2020 06:15 pm »
https://www.instagram.com/p/B8zBqAOggLH/?igshid=k095crkj1oen
From the Instagram post: plane departs Feb 23th, launches on 30th March.

23rd or 22nd?
Fat fingers, small phone. 22th it is.

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : SAOCOM 1B : Mar. 30, 2020 : Florida
« Reply #71 on: 02/21/2020 10:01 pm »
https://twitter.com/conae_oficial/status/1230951167649370112

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So we loaded the #SAOCOM1B on the Antonov AN124 plane
 The procedure was performed in two phases. The two ends of the plane are opened, the satellite is loaded from the front and, from the rear, the solar panels and the support equipment.
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : SAOCOM 1B : Mar. 30, 2020 : Florida
« Reply #72 on: 02/22/2020 12:56 am »
https://twitter.com/casarosada/status/1230999531199893504

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The Saocom1B satellite began the path for its launch into orbit. Science and technology are pillars to put Argentina on its feet.

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : SAOCOM 1B : Mar. 30, 2020 : Florida
« Reply #73 on: 02/22/2020 10:04 am »
Launch time is  23:21 UTC (7:21 p.m. EDT) on March 30.

https://spaceflightnow.com/launch-schedule/
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : SAOCOM 1B : Mar. 30, 2020 : Florida
« Reply #74 on: 02/22/2020 01:18 pm »
In the air now, arrives at the Cape this evening https://flightaware.com/live/flight/RA82046

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : SAOCOM 1B : Mar. 30, 2020 : Florida
« Reply #75 on: 02/22/2020 02:51 pm »
Interesting... I'm actually going to have my family with me for spring break and already planned for the KSC visitor center that day!  I realize there's still a fairly good chance of a launch date slip this far out, but I may have to see if we can hang out until sunset before heading back to Orlando.

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : SAOCOM 1B : Mar. 30, 2020 : Florida
« Reply #76 on: 02/22/2020 03:32 pm »
Launch time is  23:21 UTC (7:21 p.m. EDT) on March 30.

https://spaceflightnow.com/launch-schedule/
It should be 00:21 UTC on March 31

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : SAOCOM 1B : Mar. 30, 2020 : Florida
« Reply #77 on: 02/22/2020 03:45 pm »
Launch time is  23:21 UTC (7:21 p.m. EDT) on March 30.

https://spaceflightnow.com/launch-schedule/
It should be 00:21 UTC on March 31

I believe the time is correct (March 30, 23:21 UTC). This is after USA switches to DST, so Florida is UTC+4 instead of UTC+5.
GO for launch, GO for age of reflight

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : SAOCOM 1B : Mar. 30, 2020 : Florida
« Reply #78 on: 02/22/2020 03:55 pm »
Ah, you're right. My bad!

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SFN now has the launch time as 7:21 pm EDT = 23:21 UTC on March 30, about 20 minutes before sunset.
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