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The Following is a Summary by type of Proton-K and Proton-M Launchers Flying with Briz-M Upper Stage (List will be updated as new information becomes available):

Proton-K Briz-M (8K82K 14S43)
- Production/Availability Status: Finished
- Launchers Remaining: None
- Launchers Scheduled: None

Proton-M Briz-M (8K82KM 14S43) (Modification 1)
- Production/Availability Status: Finished
- Launchers Remaining: None
- Launchers Scheduled: None

Proton-M Briz-M (8K82KM 14S43) (Modification 2)
- Production/Availability Status: Finished
- Launchers Remaining: None
- Launchers Scheduled: None

Proton-M Briz-M (8K82KM 14S43) (Phase I)
- Production/Availability Status: Active
- Launchers Remaining: 1
- Launchers Scheduled:
  - Only Proton-M number 53536 remains, but intended for DM upperstage?

Proton-M Briz-M (8K82KM 14S43) (Phase I Modification 1)
- Production/Availability Status: Finished
- Launchers Remaining: None
- Launchers Scheduled: None

Proton-M Briz-M (8K82KM 14S43) (Phase I Modification 2)
- Production/Availability Status: Finished
- Launchers Remaining: None
- Launchers Scheduled: None

Proton-M Briz-M (8K82KM 14S43) (Phase II)
- Production/Availability Status: Finished
- Launchers Remaining: None
- Launchers Scheduled: None

Proton-M Briz-M (8K82KM 14S43) (Phase II Modification 1)
- Production/Availability Status: Finished
- Launchers Remaining: None
- Launchers Scheduled: None

Proton-M Briz-M (8K82KM 14S43) (Phase III)
- Production/Availability Status: Active
- Launchers Remaining: 5
- Launchers Scheduled:
  - Proton-M Briz-M (P3)     x        3     xx.xx.2014    TB              Ekspress-AM 6
  - Proton-M Briz-M (P3)     x        3     xx.xx.2014    TB              Astra 2G
  - Proton-M Briz-M (P3)     x        x     xx.xx.2014    TB              Ekspress-AT 1 / Ekspress-AT 2
  - Proton-M Briz-M (P3)     x        3     xx.xx.2014    TB              Luch 5V / KazSat 3
  - Proton-M Briz-M (P3)     x        3     xx.xx.2014    TB              MEXSAT 1

Proton-M Briz-M (8K82KM 14S43) (Phase IV)
- Production/Availability Status: Active (Yet To Fly)
- Launchers Remaining: 11+ (Still Taking for Orders)
- Launchers Scheduled:
  - Proton-M Briz-M (P4)     x        x     xx.xx.2016    TB              AsiaSat 9
  - Proton-M Briz-M (P4)     x        3     xx.xx.2014    TB              Ekspress-AM 4R
  - Proton-M Briz-M (P4)     x        3     xx.xx.2014    TB              Ekspress-AM 7
  - Proton-M DM-03 (P?)     x        x     xx.xx.2014    TB              Ekspress-AM 8 (Using Blok DM-03 instead of Briz-M)
  - Proton-M Briz-M (P4)     x        x     xx.xx.2015    TB              Ekspress-AMU 1
  - Proton-M Briz-M (P4)     x        3     xx.xx.2014    TB              Inmarsat-5 F2
  - Proton-M Briz-M (P4)     x        3     xx.xx.2014    TB              Inmarsat-5 F3
  - Proton-M Briz-M (P4)     x        x     xx.xx.2014    TB              Türksat 4A
  - Proton-M Briz-M (P4)     x        x     xx.xx.2014    TB              Türksat 4B
  - Proton-M Briz-M (P4)     x        x     xx.xx.2014    TB              Yamal 401
  - Proton-M Briz-M (P4)     x        3     xx.xx.20xx    TB              Yenisey A1


LINK: http://space.skyrocket.de/doc_lau/proton-m_briz-m.htm (Last updated on 27.12.2013)
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MLM not needed, as it uses the Britz?
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MLM not needed, as it uses the Britz?
I understand your question, I recall MLM will use Phase II Proton-M three stage version without Blok-DM or Briz-M. It is like all Stations and modules launched on Proton-K except that it will fly modernized Proton-M due to Proton-K being retired even though one Proton-K still exists in storage as of 2012. It is possible due to delays that MLM may end up on Phase III Proton-M three stage version without Blok-DM or Briz-M due to several lengthy delays that resulted in previous two switches first from Proton-K (which may explain why there is an extra Proton-K three stage version still at Khrunichev facilities in a storage building) then to Phase I Proton-M three stage version.
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 Where are you getting all this from. I am yet to find a reference to use of a phase IV? The first list is from Mr. Krebs website and as far as I can tell was simply based on dates and assumption phase IV would be flying by now. And yes there is both an unaccounted Proton-K and Blok-DM, but the Proton-K would have passed its shelf-life by now?
 If I was to guess I'd say the next generation of Briz-M has already flown with Intelsat-22.

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Where are you getting all this from. I am yet to find a reference to use of a phase IV? The first list is from Mr. Krebs website and as far as I can tell was simply based on dates and assumption phase IV would be flying by now. And yes there is both an unaccounted Proton-K and Blok-DM, but the Proton-K would have passed its shelf-life by now?
 If I was to guess I'd say the next generation of Briz-M has already flown with Intelsat-22.

Most recent: http://space.skyrocket.de/doc_lau/proton-m_briz-m.htm (Last updated on 08.04.2013)

http://space.skyrocket.de/doc_lau_det/proton-m_briz-m_p4.htm
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 Where are you getting all this from. I am yet to find a reference to use of a phase IV? The first list is from Mr. Krebs website and as far as I can tell was simply based on dates and assumption phase IV would be flying by now. And yes there is both an unaccounted Proton-K and Blok-DM, but the Proton-K would have passed its shelf-life by now?
 If I was to guess I'd say the next generation of Briz-M has already flown with Intelsat-22.
Also Anatoly Zak, which I converse with frequently, also claims Phase IV Proton-M/Briz-M has not yet flown yet but I do not know source of his info for his claim at this time.

Also I know that contract recently awarded to ILS was for Phase III and not Phase IV, but I remember that series overlap for about a year or two.

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РН «Протон-М» с улучшенными энергомассовыми характеристиками (фаза 3); РБ «Бриз-М» с улучшенными энергомассовыми характеристиками (фаза 3); головной обтекатель типа 14С75.15ХХ с улучшенными энергомассовыми характеристиками (фаза 3);

КА «Экспресс-АМ5»
КА «Экспресс-АМ6»
http://www.zakupki.gov.ru/pgz/public/action/orders/info/common_info/show?notificationId=4512479

КА «Экспресс-АМ4R»
http://www.rscc.ru/files.images/opentenders/docadapam4r290313.doc

КА «Экспресс-АМ7»
http://www.rscc.ru/files.images/opentenders/docadapam7290313.doc
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Initially there was just the enhanced Proton; documentation of that time makes no reference to a ‘phase’.
The failure of the Proton-M with JCSat-11 lead to the closure of the 74·5° launch azimuth.
It appears Phase IV is about regaining that lost capacity?

Экспресс-АМ5 was to have been 3,410 kg and Экспресс-АМ6 3,420 kg; direct to GSO.
Launch campaign tender puts the mass at 3,200 kg.

http://novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/messages/forum12/topic13089/message1090303/#message1090303

http://www.zakupki.gov.ru/pgz/public/action/orders/info/common_info/show?notificationId=3691515
http://www.zakupki.gov.ru/pgz/public/action/orders/info/common_info/show?notificationId=4512479
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Initially there was just the enhanced Proton; documentation of that time makes no reference to a ‘phase’.
The failure of the Proton-M with JCSat-11 lead to the closure of the 74·5° launch azimuth.
It appears Phase IV is about regaining that lost capacity?


For those of us in the great unwashed who don't follow this closely, by "74·5° launch azimuth" you are referring to a Proton launch as close to due East as is possible from the Proton pads?

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Initially there was just the enhanced Proton; documentation of that time makes no reference to a ‘phase’.
The failure of the Proton-M with JCSat-11 lead to the closure of the 74·5° launch azimuth.
It appears Phase IV is about regaining that lost capacity?


For those of us in the great unwashed who don't follow this closely, by "74·5° launch azimuth" you are referring to a Proton launch as close to due East as is possible from the Proton pads?

Mr. Zak has something about it on his website. Stan I think is referring to the "74·5° launch azimuth" as 74·5° towards the equator, which was subsequently banned from future use by Kazakhstan officials. Russian officials had to accept the permanent ban of the 74·5° launch azimuth by Kazakh officials in order to resume launching from Baikonur Cosmodrome.

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Initially there was just the enhanced Proton; documentation of that time makes no reference to a ‘phase’.
The failure of the Proton-M with JCSat-11 lead to the closure of the 74·5° launch azimuth.
It appears Phase IV is about regaining that lost capacity?


For those of us in the great unwashed who don't follow this closely, by "74·5° launch azimuth" you are referring to a Proton launch as close to due East as is possible from the Proton pads?

Mr. Zak has something about it on his website. Stan I think is referring to the "74·5° launch azimuth" as 74·5° towards the equator, which was subsequently banned from future use by Kazakhstan officials. Russian officials had to accept the permanent ban of the 74·5° launch azimuth by Kazakh officials in order to resume launching from Baikonur Cosmodrome.

Sorry for my half-post…

 I was trying to point out that the early launches required ‘enhanced’ Proton that is no longer available. Some of the benefits came from the 48° first orbit. That ‘enhanced’ Proton became phase II; the planned phase IV is to offer similar capability, but using the standard orbit.
 For Federal missions alternate solutions were found: the original pairing of Telkom-3 and Ямал-300К were split and given new partners, whilst Экспресс-АМ5 and Экспресс-АМ6 were modified. Экспресс-АМ4 was targeted to the standard orbit.
 So the question is which launches came after JCSat-11 that required the enhanced capabilities?

http://www.infox.ru/science/universe/2010/11/09/Kazahstan_podportil_.phtml
http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=19646.msg514402#msg514402
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–   РН «Протон-М» с улучшенными энергомассовыми характеристиками  (фаза 3);
–   КГЧ в составе:
•   головной обтекатель (ГО);
•   РБ «ДМ-03»;
•   КА «Экспресс-АМУ2»;
•   переходная система КА «Экспресс-АМУ2»;
•   адаптер;

http://www.rscc.ru/company/opentenders/1249.html
http://www.zakupki.gov.ru/223/purchase/public/purchase/info/common-info.html?noticeId=630986#

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–   РН «Протон-М» с улучшенными энергомассовыми характеристиками  (фаза 3);
–   КГЧ в составе:
•   головной обтекатель (ГО);
•   РБ «ДМ-03»;
•   КА «Экспресс-АМУ2»;
•   переходная система КА «Экспресс-АМУ2»;
•   адаптер;

http://www.rscc.ru/company/opentenders/1249.html
http://www.zakupki.gov.ru/223/purchase/public/purchase/info/common-info.html?noticeId=630986#


As an aside, the requirements for the satellite payload are provided in English, indicating that the provider of the payload will be non-Russian.

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“Nominal Mission Lifetime” means, with respect to the Express AM4R Satellite, (based upon a Proton phase 4 performance) a period of 15 (fifteen) years after completion of the Final or Provisional Acceptance of the Satellite in orbit (whichever occurs first).
http://www.zakupki.gov.ru/223/purchase/public/purchase/info/common-info.html?purchaseId=445782&&purchaseMethodType=is

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“Nominal Mission Lifetime” means, with respect to the Express AM7 Satellite, (based upon a Proton phase 4 performance) a period of 15 (fifteen) years after completion of the Final or Provisional Acceptance of the Satellite in orbit (whichever occurs first).
http://www.zakupki.gov.ru/223/purchase/public/purchase/info/common-info.html?purchaseId=445821&&purchaseMethodType=is

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First post preliminarily updated.
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For Glonass or DM-03 upper stage, which Phase Proton is used?

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For Glonass or DM-03 upper stage, which Phase Proton is used?

Up to now only the Proton-M phase I has been used with DM type upper stage. [further details]

The latest missions feature the RD-276 on the first stage, in place of the RD-275. It is possible the RD-276 were not operated at full throttle. However Proton-M Briz-M (and also maybe Proton-K Briz-M) operated the RD-275 at a slight increase of 2%; so not sure what thrust they run at. [further details]

It is also to be noted that some Proton-M phase I missions with DM upper stage, sported a white fairing. A white fairing made it’s appearance as part of the phase III upgrades, so are these DM fairings also with ‘improved energy-mass characteristics’?


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For Glonass or DM-03 upper stage, which Phase Proton is used?

Up to now only the Proton-M phase I has been used with DM type upper stage. [further details]

The latest missions feature the RD-276 on the first stage, in place of the RD-275. It is possible the RD-276 were not operated at full throttle. However Proton-M Briz-M (and also maybe Proton-K Briz-M) operated the RD-275 at a slight increase of 2%; so not sure what thrust they run at. [further details]

It is also to be noted that some Proton-M phase I missions with DM upper stage, sported a white fairing. A white fairing made it’s appearance as part of the phase III upgrades, so are these DM fairings also with ‘improved energy-mass characteristics’?


which modification of Phase I are they using now?? I sent you a detailed PM. Please try to fill in the blanks so that I can update the first post accordingly. The Links you sent me gave me a message that the service is currently unavailable.

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Having a proliferation of production models coupled with poorly trained new staff is a good way to ensure quality control problems.

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You have taken those descriptions from Mr. Krebs’ website

Proton-M Briz-M (8K82KM 14S43) (Phase I)
 - Only Proton-M number 53536 remains, but intended for DM upperstage?

Proton-M Briz-M (8K82KM 14S43) (Phase I Modification 1)
 - This is a combination of a standard phase I Proton-M (with RD-276) and an enhanced Briz-M. It was for two launches moved to Proton-M / Briz-M.

Proton-M Briz-M (8K82KM 14S43) (Phase I Modification 2)
 - Phase I with RD-276 engines.

Proton-M Briz-M (8K82KM 14S43) (Phase II)
 - The original enhanced Proton-M, dependent on the 48° orbit for it’s claimed performance. Replaced with phase III.

Proton-M Briz-M (8K82KM 14S43) (Phase II Modification 1)
 - A single customised Proton-M rocket for Inmarsat-4F3, featuring RD-275. (Perhaps swapping engines with Proton-M 53532?)

Proton-M Briz-M (8K82KM 14S43) (Phase III)
 - First steps to recover performance following closure of 48° orbit. Replacement for phase II.



Proton-MBriz-M  Current designation
53501
53502
88503
88504
   
53503
53504
88505
88506
Phase I enhancement  
535-series885-seriesPhase II enhancementBaselinePhase I
53520
935-series
88520
995-series
 EnhancedPhase II
    Phase III
    Phase IV
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