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Discussion Thread for launch of SES-22

NSF Threads for SES-22 : Discussion

Launch is successful on June 29, 2022 at 21:04 UTC (5:04 pm EDT) on a Falcon 9 from Cape Canaveral SFS SLC-40 to GTO.  The first stage is 1073.2; a successful recovery of same aboard A Shortfall of Gravitas. Fairing halves were each flying for the second time.

SES-22


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Thales Alenia Space will build SES-22 and SES-23 satellites
07 Aug 2020
Thales Alenia Space Telecommunications satellites

Cannes, 7 August, 2020 – Thales Alenia Space, a joint-venture between Thales (67%) and Leonardo (33%), announced that it has signed a contract with SES to build SES-22 and SES-23, geostationary communications satellites. These two new satellites are designed to provide digital broadcasting services over North America.

Thales Alenia Space will be responsible for the design, production, testing of the satellites and support of the payload in-orbit acceptance tests. SES-22 and SES-23 are based on the proven Spacebus 4000 B2 platform and will be 3.5-ton class satellites at launch.

These satellites are the 11th and 12th satellites based on the Spacebus 4000 B2 platform to be built by Thales Alenia Space. The two satellites will help SES meet the Federal Communications Commission’s accelerated C-band clearing deadlines in the United States and will contribute to the effort to clear spectrum necessary to roll out 5G in the United States.

Hervé Derrey, President and Chief Executive Officer of Thales Alenia Space, said “The robustness and flight proven heritage of our Spacebus 4000 B2 platform, combined with our ability to timely and quickly deliver SES-22 and SES-23, have been key elements leading to the decision of SES working with us to replace its existing C-Band fleet. This demonstrates Thales Alenia Space’s expertise in developing tailored solutions that meet each operator’s specific needs to clear the C-Band spectrum.”
https://www.thalesgroup.com/en/worldwide/space/press_release/thales-alenia-space-will-build-ses-22-and-ses-23-satellites



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SES Selects SpaceX for Launch of New C-Band Satellites

Luxembourg, 5 August 2020 – SES, the leader in global content connectivity solutions, announced today that American launch provider SpaceX will provide launch capability for up to 3 of its C-band satellites over two launches as part of the company’s accelerated C-band clearing plan. SpaceX’s Falcon 9 rocket will launch two C-band satellites built by Northrop Grumman as well as provide enhanced protection to rapidly launch a contingency satellite from Cape Canaveral, Florida in 2022 allowing SES to meet the Federal Communications Commission’s time-critical objective to roll out 5G services across the United States.

In June, SES announced it contracted American companies Northrop Grumman and the Boeing Company to deliver four C-band satellites in accordance with SES’s accelerated C-band clearing plan. These satellites will enable SES to clear 280MHz of mid-band spectrum for 5G use while seamlessly migrating SES’s existing C-band customers and ensuring the continued delivery of digital television to nearly 120 million American TV homes and other critical data services.

In the last few months, SES has been increasingly working with U.S. businesses across the country and investing in America in the C-band transition plan, and its long-standing relationship with SpaceX signifies its latest commitment to the U.S. SpaceX has launched six SES satellites in the last seven years.
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SpaceX President and Chief Operating Officer Gwynne Shotwell noted, “SES is one of SpaceX‘s most-valued partners, and we are proud of their continued trust in our capabilities to reliably deliver their satellites to orbit. We are excited to once again play a role in executing SES’s solutions to meet their customers’ needs.”

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SES Selects Two U.S. Companies to Build Four New Satellites as Part of Accelerated C-Band Clearing Plan
June 16, 2020

Northrop Grumman will deliver two flight-proven GeoStar-3 satellites, each equipped with a high-quality C-band payload to deliver the superior customer experience that end users are accustomed to. The two satellites – SES-18 and SES-19 – will be designed, assembled and tested in Dulles, Virginia.

The Boeing Company will deliver a pair of highly efficient all-electric 702SP satellites. The two satellites – SES-20 and SES-21 – will be manufactured and assembled in Los Angeles, California.

These four C-band only new satellites will enable SES to clear 280 MHz of mid-band spectrum for 5G use while seamlessly migrating SES’s existing C-band customers. Each satellite will have 10 primary transponders of 36 MHz plus back-up tubes so they can enable the broadcast delivery of digital television to more than 120 million TV homes as well as provide critical data services. The satellites, when launched in Q3 2022, will be positioned at 103 degrees West, 131 degrees West and 135 degrees West orbital slots. The cost of manufacturing these four satellites is part of the USD 1.6 billion investment envelope that SES has announced in May.



https://www.ses.com/company/c-band-transition-plan-us/ses-transition-plan

https://www.ses.com/sites/default/files/2021-07/SES%20July%202021%20Transition%20Plan.pdf

off topic question:
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...To provide assurance to customers that it can maintain service continuity, and consistent with its August 2020 Transition Plan, SES contracted with Thales Alenia Space France in June 2020 to manufacture two ground spares.  The manufacturing of the first ground spare satellite (SES-22) started immediately in order to be ready for launch within a few weeks after any potential launch failure of one of the first two dual launches (described below).  The manufacturing of the second ground spare (SES-23) began on June 1, 2021, consistent with the SES contingency fleet plan. Subject to the successful launch and deployment of the first four satellites included in this Transition Plan, SES will then determine whether or not to finalize the second ground spare program and will seek reimbursement only for the costs incurred until that moment for the second ground spare program, including termination liability. ...

So there should already be a launch contract for the first ground spare SES-22. Is there anything known?
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Re: SpaceX F9 : SES-22 : Florida : H2 2022
« Reply #1 on: 08/13/2021 08:38 pm »
So there should already be a launch contract for the first ground spare SES-22. Is there anything known?

I haven't heard anything, but I would guess they paid something to get an option in one or both of their launch contracts for another flight in the appropriate time period if it's needed.  The penalty for missing the deployment deadline is huge.
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Re: SpaceX F9 : SES-22 : Florida : H2 2022
« Reply #2 on: 08/13/2021 09:13 pm »
So there should already be a launch contract for the first ground spare SES-22. Is there anything known?

I haven't heard anything, but I would guess they paid something to get an option in one or both of their launch contracts for another flight in the appropriate time period if it's needed.  The penalty for missing the deployment deadline is huge.
The penalty from the FCC retiring or relocation of sats to clear the reallocated bands is greater and the contracts were developed with hot spares ready in storage  are part of the plan the spare satellite options can either be terminated or launched to additional coverage locations via an additional launch contract. At this time both options remain available to SES.
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Re: SpaceX F9 : SES-22 : Florida : H2 2022
« Reply #3 on: 08/14/2021 05:46 pm »
The payload is probably a sunk cost. But the rest of the GEO will probably be sold to another client. I would assume this will give a very nice competitive advantage to Thales for any next GEO procurement.
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Re: SpaceX F9 : SES-22 : Florida : Q2 2022
« Reply #4 on: 02/25/2022 09:58 pm »
So there should already be a launch contract for the first ground spare SES-22. Is there anything known?

I haven't heard anything, but I would guess they paid something to get an option in one or both of their launch contracts for another flight in the appropriate time period if it's needed.  The penalty for missing the deployment deadline is huge.

SES-22 launch soon in Q2/2022. Now who is the launch provider?

https://www.ses.com/sites/default/files/2022-02/SES%20Full%20Year%202021%20Results_0.pdf
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Re: SpaceX F9 : SES-22 : Florida : Q2 2022
« Reply #5 on: 02/26/2022 07:39 pm »
um, am i blind?
It's already in the opening post
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SES Selects SpaceX for Launch of New C-Band Satellites

Luxembourg, 5 August 2020 – SES, the leader in global content connectivity solutions, announced today that American launch provider SpaceX will provide launch capability for up to 3 of its C-band satellites over two launches as part of the company’s accelerated C-band clearing plan. SpaceX’s Falcon 9 rocket will launch two C-band satellites built by Northrop Grumman as well as provide enhanced protection to rapidly launch a contingency satellite from Cape Canaveral, Florida in 2022 allowing SES to meet the Federal Communications Commission’s time-critical objective to roll out 5G services across the United States.

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So SES-22 on Falcon 9 or I'll eat a broom.
I'll stop off topic now
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Re: SpaceX F9 : SES-22 : Florida : Q2 2022
« Reply #6 on: 02/27/2022 01:40 am »
I'm missing where the launch provider was announced.

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Re: SpaceX F9 : SES-22 : Florida : Q2 2022
« Reply #7 on: 02/27/2022 09:02 am »
I'm missing where the launch provider was announced.

SES-22 is the contingency satellite mentioned above. SES apparently decided to launch it at first.
Possibly SES fears that in the event of possible delays + a launcher failure with the satellite pairs SES-18/19 or SES-20/21, the time for SES-22 will run out.

The launch order was changed between the November presentation and the full year results presentation.
(single launch=SES-22)

https://www.ses.com/sites/default/files/2021-11/Roadshow_Presentation_November2021.pdf
timeline on page 7

https://www.ses.com/sites/default/files/2022-02/2202_FY_2021_Analyst_Presentation_FINAL.pdf
timeline on page 11

By the way, I didn't open this thread. @zubenelgenubi assembled it, thanks.
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Re: SpaceX F9 : SES-22 : Florida : Q2 2022
« Reply #8 on: 02/27/2022 01:53 pm »
So we don't actually know that this is flying with SpaceX?
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Re: SpaceX F9 : SES-22 : Florida : Q2 2022
« Reply #9 on: 02/27/2022 02:22 pm »
So we don't actually know that this is flying with SpaceX?

Not for sure, but it seems likely, considering it's launching soon and we haven't heard about any new launch contracts. SES already has an option with SpaceX for the launch of a third satellite, so that's likely how SES-22 is being launched.

Also, Gunter lists SES-22 as launching on F9, but that might be a recent change based on this very thread, so not necessarily proof.

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Re: SpaceX F9 : SES-22 : Florida : Q2 2022
« Reply #10 on: 02/27/2022 02:42 pm »
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Thales Alenia Space said it will build the SES-22 and SES-23 television broadcast satellites using its Spacebus 4000 B2 platform.
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SES said that the satellites ordered from Thales Alenia Space are “contingency satellites”
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https://spacenews.com/ses-taps-thales-alenia-space-for-final-two-c-band-replacement-satellites/

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SES-22 satellite's payload has just reached @Thales_Alenia_S
 clean rooms of Cannes, being delivered from Toulouse. This video looks back to the payload being put into the contener in Toulouse. Next step will be the mating of the payload & platform. Stay tuned! @SES_Satellites

https://twitter.com/Thales_Alenia_S/status/1464181558873673730


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Re: SpaceX F9? : SES-22 : Florida : Q2 2022
« Reply #11 on: 02/27/2022 07:52 pm »
I added a "?" to the thread title for clarity re: launch vehicle.
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Re: SpaceX F9 : SES-22 : Florida : Q2 2022
« Reply #12 on: 03/09/2022 07:41 pm »
https://www.thalesgroup.com/en/worldwide/space/news/meet-berangere-bergogne-program-manager-communications-satellites

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Meet Bérangère Bergogne, Program Manager for communications satellites
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 Can you tell us more about the SES-22 program?

It’s hard to dissociate SES-22 from SES-23, as both satellites are set to deliver direct-to-home broadcast services in North America. They will enable SES to meet the deadline set by the U.S. Federal Communications Commission (FCC) to free up C-band spectrum required to deploy 5G in the United States. So it’s a strategic program for our customer. The common denominator between the two satellites is Thales Alenia Space’s proven Spacebus 4000 B2 platform. Both identical, SES-22 and SES-23 are the 11th and 12th satellites built around this bus, so it’s a mature technology that has proved robust and reliable over the years. And because it’s a tried-and-tested technology, we’ll be able to deliver a geostationary satellite within two years or less.
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Re: SpaceX F9? : SES-22 : Florida? : July 2022
« Reply #13 on: 03/19/2022 12:25 pm »
SES-22 is currently scheduled for July launch according to a recent FCC filing.  Launch vehicle has still not been announced.

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Re: SpaceX F9? : SES-22 : Florida? : July 2022
« Reply #14 on: 03/19/2022 12:28 pm »
SES-22 is currently scheduled for July launch according to a recent FCC filing.  Launch vehicle has still not been announced.
Do we know if it will travel alone or will it be accompanied by SES-23?
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Re: SpaceX F9? : SES-22 : Florida? : July 2022
« Reply #15 on: 03/19/2022 07:04 pm »
SES-22 is currently scheduled for July launch according to a recent FCC filing.  Launch vehicle has still not been announced.

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Re: SpaceX F9 : SES-22 : Florida : July 2022
« Reply #16 on: 03/20/2022 07:09 am »

Do we know if it will travel alone or will it be accompanied by SES-23?

The assembly of SES-23 was started later.
It is unclear whether it will be completed at all.

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... Construction of SES-23 began on June 1, 2021. Subject to the
successful launch and deployment of the first four satellites included in the Transition Plan, SES
will then determine whether or not to finalize the SES-23 program and will seek reimbursement
only for the costs incurred until that moment for the second ground spare program, including
termination liability.
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The launcher for SES-23 has not been selected yet.
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https://www.ses.com/sites/default/files/2021-12/SES%20Quarterly%20Report%20-%2012.21.21.pdf
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Re: SpaceX F9 : SES-22 : Florida : July 2022
« Reply #17 on: 03/20/2022 07:55 am »
SES-22 end of operation mass is

1284 kg

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Re: SpaceX F9 : SES-22 : Florida : July 2022
« Reply #18 on: 03/24/2022 06:03 pm »
I added a "?" to the thread title for clarity re: launch vehicle.

@zubenelgenubi:
Could you please remove the question mark?
Thank you very much.

https://www.ses.com/sites/default/files/2022-03/Roadshow%20Presentation_March2022.pdf
page 36
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Re: SpaceX F9? : SES-22 : Florida? : July 2022
« Reply #19 on: 03/24/2022 06:57 pm »
@zubenelgenubi:
Could you please remove the question mark?
Thank you very much.

You can remove it yourself.  The topic subject is the subject of the original post.  So just go to your original post that started this topic, click Modify, and change the subject as desired.
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Re: SpaceX F9 : SES-22 : Florida : July 2022
« Reply #20 on: 04/02/2022 12:34 pm »
Significant delays are obviously feared at the construction of the NG satellites SES-18 and SES-19.
That should be the reason for the launch of SES-22, originally intended as a ground spare.
Because probably no AN-124 is available, SES and TAS are working on a transport at sea for SES-22.

https://communicationsdaily.com/news/2022/04/04/Intelsat-SES-Have-CBand-Satellite-Delays-From-Pandemic-2204010052

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Re: SpaceX F9 : SES-22 : Florida : July 2022
« Reply #21 on: 04/02/2022 05:05 pm »
Significant delays are obviously feared at the construction of the NG satellites SES-18 and SES-19.
That should be the reason for the launch of SES-22, originally intended as a ground spare.
Because probably no AN-124 is available, SES and TAS are working on a transport at sea for SES-22.

https://communicationsdaily.com/news/2022/04/04/Intelsat-SES-Have-CBand-Satellite-Delays-From-Pandemic-2204010052

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I'm surprised that Airbus' Beluga and Beluga XL are not a pretty valid replacement for An-124 for the space industry.

Re: SpaceX F9 : SES-22 : Florida : July 2022
« Reply #22 on: 04/03/2022 03:03 am »
Significant delays are obviously feared at the construction of the NG satellites SES-18 and SES-19.
That should be the reason for the launch of SES-22, originally intended as a ground spare.
Because probably no AN-124 is available, SES and TAS are working on a transport at sea for SES-22.

https://communicationsdaily.com/news/2022/04/04/Intelsat-SES-Have-CBand-Satellite-Delays-From-Pandemic-2204010052

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I'm surprised that Airbus' Beluga and Beluga XL are not a pretty valid replacement for An-124 for the space industry.

This may be wrong, but it is my understanding that neither of their cargo holds are pressurized.
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Re: SpaceX F9 : SES-22 : Florida : July 2022
« Reply #23 on: 04/03/2022 04:05 pm »
Significant delays are obviously feared at the construction of the NG satellites SES-18 and SES-19.
That should be the reason for the launch of SES-22, originally intended as a ground spare.
Because probably no AN-124 is available, SES and TAS are working on a transport at sea for SES-22.

https://communicationsdaily.com/news/2022/04/04/Intelsat-SES-Have-CBand-Satellite-Delays-From-Pandemic-2204010052

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I'm surprised that Airbus' Beluga and Beluga XL are not a pretty valid replacement for An-124 for the space industry.

This may be wrong, but it is my understanding that neither of their cargo holds are pressurized.

I'm surprised that the An-124 cargo is pressurized. I had read it wasn't.

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Re: SpaceX F9 : SES-22 : Florida : July 2022
« Reply #24 on: 04/04/2022 07:31 am »
Significant delays are obviously feared at the construction of the NG satellites SES-18 and SES-19.
That should be the reason for the launch of SES-22, originally intended as a ground spare.
Because probably no AN-124 is available, SES and TAS are working on a transport at sea for SES-22.

https://communicationsdaily.com/news/2022/04/04/Intelsat-SES-Have-CBand-Satellite-Delays-From-Pandemic-2204010052

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I'm surprised that Airbus' Beluga and Beluga XL are not a pretty valid replacement for An-124 for the space industry.

This may be wrong, but it is my understanding that neither of their cargo holds are pressurized.

I'm surprised that the An-124 cargo is pressurized. I had read it wasn't.
The pressurized cargo hold is part of the An-124 Condor's military air transport heritage. One of the task was moving armored fighting vehicles with crew. Also with all heavy military air transport aircraft and their variants with civilian operators.

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Re: SpaceX F9 : SES-22 : Florida : July 2022
« Reply #25 on: 04/04/2022 07:42 am »
Significant delays are obviously feared at the construction of the NG satellites SES-18 and SES-19.
That should be the reason for the launch of SES-22, originally intended as a ground spare.
Because probably no AN-124 is available, SES and TAS are working on a transport at sea for SES-22.

https://communicationsdaily.com/news/2022/04/04/Intelsat-SES-Have-CBand-Satellite-Delays-From-Pandemic-2204010052

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I'm surprised that Airbus' Beluga and Beluga XL are not a pretty valid replacement for An-124 for the space industry.

This may be wrong, but it is my understanding that neither of their cargo holds are pressurized.

I'm surprised that the An-124 cargo is pressurized. I had read it wasn't.
The pressurized cargo hold is part of the An-124 Condor's military air transport heritage. One of the task was moving armored fighting vehicles with crew. Also with all heavy military air transport aircraft and their variants with civilian operators.


The cargo hold is pressurized, but at a lower level of pressure than the forward cockpit/crew area and the aft passenger area (both on the upper deck). In one of the YT AN-124 videos, you can see them closing the hatch that gives access from the cockpit to the hold.
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Re: SpaceX F9 : SES-22 : Florida : July 2022
« Reply #26 on: 04/04/2022 06:50 pm »
Significant delays are obviously feared at the construction of the NG satellites SES-18 and SES-19.
That should be the reason for the launch of SES-22, originally intended as a ground spare.
Because probably no AN-124 is available, SES and TAS are working on a transport at sea for SES-22.

https://communicationsdaily.com/news/2022/04/04/Intelsat-SES-Have-CBand-Satellite-Delays-From-Pandemic-2204010052

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I'm surprised that Airbus' Beluga and Beluga XL are not a pretty valid replacement for An-124 for the space industry.

This may be wrong, but it is my understanding that neither of their cargo holds are pressurized.

I'm surprised that the An-124 cargo is pressurized. I had read it wasn't.
The pressurized cargo hold is part of the An-124 Condor's military air transport heritage. One of the task was moving armored fighting vehicles with crew. Also with all heavy military air transport aircraft and their variants with civilian operators.


The cargo hold is pressurized, but at a lower level of pressure than the forward cockpit/crew area and the aft passenger area (both on the upper deck). In one of the YT AN-124 videos, you can see them closing the hatch that gives access from the cockpit to the hold.

I've read that it is pressurized at 24.6 kPa (3.57 psi), while ambient at 30,000ft is 29.65 kPa (4.3psi). So, basically not pressurized.

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Re: SpaceX F9 : SES-22 : Florida : June 2022
« Reply #27 on: 04/07/2022 03:46 pm »
[Space News] Antonov shortage threatens delivery delays for the biggest satellites [Apr 7]
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SES told SpaceNews it now plans to use a boat instead of an Antonov to transport its SES-22 C-band satellite from Europe to the U.S., where it is slated to launch from Florida on a SpaceX Falcon 9.

Although traveling via the ocean will take weeks longer, SES spokesperson Suzanne Ong said the satellite remains on track to launch before the end of June.
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Re: SpaceX F9 : SES-22 : Florida : H2 2022
« Reply #28 on: 04/15/2022 08:01 pm »
Cross-post:
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SES-22
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Re: SpaceX F9 : SES-22 : CCSFS SLC-40 : June/July 2022
« Reply #29 on: 04/20/2022 08:34 pm »
SFN Launch Schedule update, April 20 (one of many):
SES-22 launches from CCSFS SLC-40 in June/July 2022.
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Re: SpaceX F9 : SES-22 : CCSFS SLC-40 : June 2022
« Reply #30 on: 05/06/2022 11:50 am »
The launch of SES-22 is still scheduled for Q2 2022.
https://www.ses.com/sites/default/files/2022-05/SES%20Q1%202022%20Results.pdf



SES-22 NLT mid June, or else its launch with ASDS landing would have to wait until after the dual-ASDS launch of USSF-44?
Another thought springing from Nilesat 301 being the 1049.11 expendable launch, from SLC-40:

This may launch in late June, after Starlink 4-19 (NET June 10, likely from SLC-40), and perhaps SES-22 (June, also from SLC-40).

(Starlink 4-19 will be a "usual" Starlink northeastern trajectory launch with first stage ASDS landing.  SES-22 would launch due east, with ASDS first stage landing.)

If so, then after the Nilesat-301 launch, there is no need to hurry an ASDS with landed first stage back to Port Canaveral, to make a turnaround to catch one of the side boosters for USSF-44, also in late June, from LC-39A.

The two launch campaigns can proceed simultaneously, if necessary.
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Re: SpaceX F9 : SES-22 : CCSFS SLC-40 : June 2022
« Reply #31 on: 05/12/2022 05:31 pm »
SES-22 Media Gallery

SES-22 was loaded onto the CELTIC in Fos sur Mer. Nilesat 301 should also be on board.
The CELTIC is expected in Cape Canaveral around May 14th.
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Re: SpaceX F9 : SES-22 : CCSFS SLC-40 : June 2022
« Reply #33 on: 05/13/2022 10:04 pm »
I wonder if the 2 geocomsats will launch back-to-back from SLC-40?

Partial cross-post:
<snip>
If I remember correctly, foreign manufactured or owned satellites launch from SLC-40 because the ITAR accommodations are easier at the Space Force Station than at the adjacent NASA center.

Nilesat-301 is now launching (NET) June 7 (the same date as SpX-25 from LC-39A).

SES-22 arrives on the same cargo ship as Nilesat-301, circa May 14.  SES-22 should be ready to launch at virtually the same time as its ocean travel companion.

I predict that, without any difficulties between now and early June, that the SES-22 launch will immediately follow Nilesat-301 at SLC-40, in mid June, as soon as the pad can be turned around.

There is no need to wait for an ASDS to be free, as only one will be used earlier in June, for SpX-25Nilesat-301 is an expendable launch.
<snip>

Edit May 26: Apparently, yes, they will.



No booster assignment yet for SES-22-- which one might it be?  Will SES pay for a Static Fire?

Rotating forward the boosters by oldest available after previous recovery, but not already assigned, gives us: 1051.13 (March 19), 1060.13 (April 21), 1062.7 (April 29), and 1058.13 (May 6).
Edit May 26: Also, 1073.2 (May 14), 1052.6 (May 18), and perhaps 1061.9 (May 25).

Edit May 20:
<snip>
Starlink Group 4-19 looking like mid June (I'd bet on LC-39A for that one) and using B1060-13
<snip>
And then in July and sort of in this order:
<snip>
Starlink Group 4-21 from Florida (I'd say pad 40 is likely) using B1058-13
<snip>
Starlink Group 4-25 from Florida (betting all my money on pad 40 for this one) using B1051-13

1062.7 may be held back for SES-22, to give an "external" customer a lower-reuse booster.

Edit May 26:
Quote from: Alexphysics tweet
So remember that thing about B1049-11 being expended for Nilesat 301? Well, that has changed. This booster surely likes to change missions. Nilesat 301 is now launching on B1062-7 which previously flew on Starlink Group 4-16 in late April.
What about another lower-reuse booster: 1073.2?

Edit early June: A previously unknown F9 launch in June has appeared, requiring ASDS first stage recovery.  On June 6, we learned that the primary payload is a government satellite or satellites.  On June 7, we learned that a Globalstar-2 satellite would be a rideshare.

My guess is that 1073.2 will serve the above-mentioned launch.  I therefore also deduce 1052.6 will launch SES-22.

If repairs from the previous December 21 landing have been completed, then 1069.2 is available.

Edit May 20:
Oh I forgot... B1069-2 is flying on Starlink Group 4-26. NET August from Florida.

Static Fire for the above, if SES chooses against paying for it?  My predictions.

No: 1051.13, 1052.6, 1058.13, 1060.13, 1061.9, 1062.7, 1073.2

Yes: 1069.2 (first launch after extensive repairs)

Edit May 20: 1062.7?
Edit May 26: 1073.2?
Edit early June: 1052.6?

No Static Fire means the booster is first and only transported to the pad, with payload stacked, a day or less before liftoff.

Edit June 15: It's 1073.2 for this launch.

Edit June 29: 1073.2 transported to and erected at pad today, the launch day.  No Static Fire.

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Re: SpaceX F9 : SES-22 : CCSFS SLC-40 : June 2022
« Reply #34 on: 05/14/2022 05:37 pm »
Do. Not. Drop.

SES-22 and Nilesat 301 being unloaded at Port Canaveral today, ahead of launch later this year atop a Falcon 9.

https://twitter.com/SpaceOffshore/status/1525523866168213504

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Re: SpaceX F9 : SES-22 : CCSFS SLC-40 : late June 2022
« Reply #35 on: 05/17/2022 04:12 pm »
SFN, Geostationary comsats delivered to Florida for SpaceX launches in June, dated May 16
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Nilesat 301 is scheduled for liftoff June 10 from pad 40 at Cape Canaveral Space Force Station, and SES 22 is set for launch in late June.
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The launch schedule for SES 22 was not impacted by the change in transport plans, according to a spokesperson for SES, the Luxembourg company that owns the satellite.
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Re: SpaceX F9 : SES-22 : CCSFS SLC-40 : late June 2022
« Reply #36 on: 05/26/2022 10:23 am »
launch SES-22 NET June 28
SES-STA-INTR2022-01687

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Re: SpaceX F9 : SES-22 : CCSFS SLC-40 : 28 June 2022
« Reply #37 on: 06/02/2022 12:32 pm »
Launch photography
http://www.launchphotography.com/Launch_Viewing_Guide.html (May 27th version)

has it as 27th or 28th June. Seems surprising given that STA request above?
link above no longer working - is this indication it was replaced?
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Re: SpaceX F9 : SES-22 : CCSFS SLC-40 : 28 June 2022
« Reply #38 on: 06/02/2022 04:16 pm »
Cross-post (my opinion):
The launch time-of-day of SES-22 could fall in the time period of June 27 8:00 pm to 11:59 pm EDT = June 28 00:00 to 03:59 UTC.  That would make both June 27 or 28 the launch date, depending on the time zone referenced.
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Re: SpaceX F9 : SES-22 : CCSFS SLC-40 : 28 June 2022
« Reply #39 on: 06/02/2022 04:29 pm »
link above no longer working - is this indication it was replaced?

The initial links for the "INTR" file numbers go away when the real file number is assigned.  New numbers for those filings:

SES-STA-20220524-00597
SES-STA-20220524-00598
SES-STA-20220601-00602

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Re: SpaceX F9 : SES-22 : CCSFS SLC-40 : 28 June 2022
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Re: SpaceX F9 : SES-22 : CCSFS SLC-40 : 28 June 2022
« Reply #41 on: 06/03/2022 10:45 pm »
SFN Launch Schedule, June 3 update concurs with June 28 SES-22 launch.
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Re: SpaceX F9 : SES-22 : CCSFS SLC-40 : 28 June 2022
« Reply #42 on: 06/08/2022 08:35 pm »
Cross-post; note two Falcon 9 launches from Florida on the same day.
SFN  Globalstar spare satellite to launch on SpaceX rocket this month, June 7
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Here’s a snapshot of the Falcon 9 launch schedule for June, as of Tuesday [June 7]:

• June 8: Nilesat 301 from SLC-40 at Cape Canaveral Space Force Station, Florida

• Mid-June: Globalstar FM15 from SLC-40 at Cape Canaveral Space Force Station, Florida

• June 18: SARah 1 from SLC-4E at Vandenberg Space Force Base, California

• Mid-June: Starlink 4-19 from LC-39A at Kennedy Space Center, Florida

• June 28: CRS-25 from LC-39A at Kennedy Space Center, Florida

• June 28: SES 22 from SLC-40 at Cape Canaveral Space Force Station, Florida
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Re: SpaceX F9 : SES-22 : CCSFS SLC-40 : 28 June 2022
« Reply #43 on: 06/11/2022 08:48 pm »
NextSpaceFlight indicates launch at 21:00 UTC
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Re: SpaceX F9 : SES-22 : CCSFS SLC-40 : 28 June 2022
« Reply #44 on: 06/14/2022 10:42 pm »
NextSpaceFlight indicates launch at 21:00 UTC.

Launch time clarified: 21:04 UTC, June 14 update.
(No mention of launch window yet.)

SFN Launch Schedule, also updated June 14, concurs.
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NextSpaceFlight lists the booster as B1073
Launches Seen: Atlas V OA-7, Falcon 9 Starlink 6-4, Falcon 9 CRS-28,

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A previously-flown Falcon 9 booster for an upcoming mission is heading toward one of SpaceX’s launch pads as NASA’s Artemis 1 moon rocket is fueled up for today’s countdown dress rehearsal.

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Have SES released own mission patch or only SpaceX does it for tis mission?

https://twitter.com/SES_Satellites/status/1540262985331089409
Delayed by 24 hours.

"The next SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket will launch the SES-22 communication satellite from pad 40 on June 29 at 5:04pm EDT" @ Ben coopers site [Updated 24th June]
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Quote from: SES tweet
It's almost time for the first SES launch of this year! 🚀🛰️

We're thrilled to announce SES-22, our first C-band satellite dedicated to the U.S., is scheduled to launch next week.👇

🗓️ 29 June
🕔 17:04 EDT / 23:04 CEST
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Is it legit?

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Quote from: SES tweet
It's almost time for the first SES launch of this year! 🚀🛰️

We're thrilled to announce SES-22, our first C-band satellite dedicated to the U.S., is scheduled to launch next week.👇

🗓️ 29 June
🕔 17:04 EDT / 23:04 CEST
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A Shortfall of Gravitas droneship and Doug should get underway from Port Canaveral this afternoon for the SES-22 mission - NET June 29th.

https://twitter.com/SpaceOffshore/status/1540362769190604800

Quote from: SES tweet
It's almost time for the first SES launch of this year! 🚀🛰️

We're thrilled to announce SES-22, our first C-band satellite dedicated to the U.S., is scheduled to launch next week.👇

🗓️ 29 June
🕔 17:04 EDT / 23:04 CEST
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I am Pretty sure its not, couldn't find it anywhere else.

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NGA notice.

Quote from: NGA
221739Z JUN 22
NAVAREA IV 601/22(11,26).
WESTERN NORTH ATLANTIC.
FLORIDA.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, ROCKET LAUNCHING
   292103Z TO 300001Z JUN, ALTERNATE
   2103Z TO 0001Z DAILY 30 JUN THRU 04 JUL
   IN AREAS BOUND BY:
   A. 28-36.10N 080-35.28W, 28-37.00N 080-29.00W,
       28-33.00N 080-05.00W, 28-30.00N 080-05.00W,
       28-30.00N 080-24.00W, 28-31.60N 080-33.57W.
   B. 27-45.00N 075-48.00W, 28-12.00N 075-45.00W,
       28-19.00N 072-08.00W, 28-01.00N 071-36.00W,
       27-27.00N 071-42.00W, 27-11.00N 072-23.00W.
2. CANCEL THIS MSG 050101Z JUL 22.
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Map from the NGA notice. Assuming this is mission 1590, the ASDS will be 667km downrange, but the fairings are a guess.

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Map from the NGA notice. Assuming this is mission 1590, the ASDS will be 667km downrange, but the fairings are a guess.

0881-EX-ST-2022
Mission 1590, NET late June
Low inclination with ASDS landing, North  27  47  53   West  73  50  48

Nilesat?
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Launch Hazard Areas for #SES-22 mission from CCSFS SLC-40, valid for NET 29 June 21:04 UTC, alternatively 30 June to 04 July based on issued NOTMAR. Booster 1073.2 landing 666km downrange. Estimated fairing recovery position approx. 782km downrange.

https://twitter.com/Raul74Cz/status/1540693896807600131

Looking Good
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Looking Good [L-3 forecast]
Launch appears to have a 2-hour, 10 minutes launch window: 21:03 to 23:13 UTC.
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L-2 weather forecast.  80% 'Go' for June 29.  60% 'Go' for June 30.  All Additional Risk Criteria are Low.
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From June 29, 2022 at 2033 UTC to To June 29, 2022 at 2336 UTC
Altitude: From the surface up to and including 18000 feet MSL
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A @SpaceX #Falcon9 #rocket is set to #launch from Cape Canaveral Space Force Station on June 29, carrying the SES 22 communications satellite. Launch window is 5:04 to 7:13 p.m.

https://twitter.com/Titusville/status/1541760936859602949

L-1 Weather Forecast .  80% 'Go' for June 29.  60% 'Go' for June 30.  All Additional Risk Criteria are Low.
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Orbital Launch no. 74 of 2022 🇺🇸🚀#36 🇺🇲🛰️

#SpaceX to launch a 5G communication satellite "#SES22" – built by @Thales_Alenia_S for @SES_Satellites onboard the #Falcon9 FT "B1073-2" launch vehicle at the Cape Canaveral SLC-40.

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Launch of #SES22 mission via #SpaceX's #Falcon9 vehicle

Booster supporting this mission

https://twitter.com/_rykllan/status/1541839793864278019

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Targeting Wednesday, June 29 for a Falcon 9 launch of SES-22 to orbit from Space Launch Complex 40 in Florida. The two-hour window opens at 5:04 p.m. ET → http://spacex.com/launches/ses-22/
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SpaceX is targeting Wednesday, June 29 for launch of SES-22 to a geosynchronous transfer orbit from Space Launch Complex 40 (SLC-40) at Cape Canaveral Space Force Station in Florida. The two-hour launch window opens at 5:04 p.m. ET, 21:04 UTC. A backup launch opportunity is available on Thursday, June 30 with the same window.

The Falcon 9 first stage booster supporting this mission previously supported the launch of one Starlink mission. After stage separation, the first stage will land on the A Shortfall of Gravitas droneship, which will be stationed in the Atlantic Ocean.

A live webcast of this mission will begin about 10 minutes prior to liftoff.

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SpaceX, ULA targeting back-to-back geostationary launches..

https://twitter.com/NewSpaceEconomy/status/1542098588070645760

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We are vertical! #SES22 launching today at 5.04pm ET! Send it!

https://twitter.com/steviecSES/status/1542141735672897538

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Launch 1 of the next 2 days. @SpaceX will launch a #Falcon9 with @SES_Satellites payload at 5:04 pm E.T. this evening.

https://twitter.com/Zshauladventure/status/1542178781045166081

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Notice anything missing from #Falcon9 B1073?? perhaps it's the American flag/Falcon 9 logo. This mission, #SES22 marks the second flight for this booster and overall, it's still really clean!

https://twitter.com/Zshauladventure/status/1542179497205694466

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Vertical & Ready #SpaceX #SES22 @steviecSES #falcon9 first stage B-1073-2 on SLC-40 this will make 165 @SpaceX launches & 127 landings!

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On the left, Atlas V at SLC-41, to launch USSF-12 tomorrow at 6 PM EDT (22:00 UTC):

On the right, Falcon 9 at SLC-40, to launch SES-22 today at 5:04 PM EDT (21:04 UTC):

https://twitter.com/TGMetsFan98/status/1542169521800232960

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Falcon 9 | SLC-40 |: today
Atlas V | SLC-41 |: tomorrow
SLS | LC-39B |

https://twitter.com/TrevorMahlmann/status/1542184734142435330

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"Press kit" capture with OCR

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SECO confirmed. Nominal orbit insertion.

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T-20 minute vent for Falcon 9 ahead of the SES-22 launch from SLC-40.

youtube.com/watch?v=eVBIFYo0kRI

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ASDS video looks incredible, gotta love that Starlink datalink!
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LAUNCH! SpaceX Falcon 9 B1073 launches with SES-22 from SLC-40.

Overview:
https://t.co/SqCzmKDhn9

Livestream:
youtube.com/watch?v=eVBIFY…

https://twitter.com/nasaspaceflight/status/1542253123426729985
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And there's another happy landing. Falcon 9 B1073 lands on SpaceX drone ship "A Shortfall of Gravitas"

youtube.com/watch?v=eVBIFY…

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Looks like a beautiful day to land in the Atlantic Ocean.

https://twitter.com/julia_bergeron/status/1542255147824431104

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#Falcon9 in flight just moments ago as it lifted of SLC-40 at CCSFS for @SpaceX on the #SES22 mission this evening!

https://twitter.com/Zshauladventure/status/1542256041303412737

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Lift off at 5:04 pm E.T. for #Falcon9 B1073. @SpaceX has sent up another @SES_Satellites payload this evening!

https://twitter.com/Zshauladventure/status/1542255392881016832

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Falcon 9 launches SES-22 at 5:04 p.m. EDT today

More soon →  https://johnkrausphotos.com/New

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Beautiful, cloudy launch of Falcon 9 with SES-22 at 5:04 p.m. EDT today

More soon →  johnkrausphotos.com/New
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Second burn of the Merlin Vacuum engine is complete; ~5 minutes until SES-22 deploy

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What was the launch time to the second?

What is the fate of the second stage?
One more burn to reenter over a remote ocean? Or, burn to lower perigee as much as possible?
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Little dogleg there on that burn.

Edit:  upward, it appears.
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If there had been a launch scrub today, another opportunity would have been tomorrow, same time.

Screen captures from the SpaceX webcast.

Countdown before launch:
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Launch and ascent.
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MECO > stage 1/2 separation > SES-1 > fairing separation
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Second stage burn,  and first stage reentry.
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Re: SpaceX F9 : SES-22 : CCSFS SLC-40 : 29 June 2022 (21:04 UTC)
« Reply #100 on: 06/29/2022 10:15 pm »
First stage landing and second stage attains orbit.
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Re: SpaceX F9 : SES-22 : CCSFS SLC-40 : 29 June 2022 (21:04 UTC)
« Reply #101 on: 06/29/2022 10:20 pm »
Second stage coasts > SES-2 > spacecraft separation.

Congratulations to the entire launch campaign team!

And thank you, NSF webcasters, for a great show. 👍
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Re: SpaceX F9 : SES-22 : CCSFS SLC-40 : 29 June 2022 (21:04 UTC)
« Reply #102 on: 06/29/2022 10:22 pm »
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Falcon 9 soars through the sky on its way to deliver SES-22 to geostationary transfer orbit.

Booster B1073 landed successfully for its 2nd time.

Mission overview: https://nasaspaceflight.com/2022/06/ses-22-launch/

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The cloudy backdrop made for a gorgeous liftoff, and the atmospheric conditions created a longer-lasting vapor cone.
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Re: SpaceX F9 : SES-22 : CCSFS SLC-40 : 29 June 2022 (21:04 UTC)
« Reply #103 on: 06/29/2022 10:41 pm »
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@SpaceX @Thales_Alenia_S and @SES_Satellites deliver again #SES22 is healthy in its initial orbit 🎉

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Re: SpaceX F9 : SES-22 : CCSFS SLC-40 : 29 June 2022 (21:04 UTC)
« Reply #104 on: 06/30/2022 12:04 am »
SES-22 Mission Control Audio

Well, they switched that YouTube feed to private or deleted it. Was there a new one? It's not showing up in their YouTube channel, although they usually hide it after the launch (instead of deleting it) . I wanted to watch the ground track move during the inclination plane change burn.
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Re: SpaceX F9 : SES-22 : CCSFS SLC-40 : 29 June 2022 (21:04 UTC)
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Re: SpaceX F9 : SES-22 : CCSFS SLC-40 : 29 June 2022 (21:04 UTC)
« Reply #107 on: 06/30/2022 12:32 am »
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CelesTrak has GP data for 1 object from the launch (2022-071) of SES-22 on a Falcon 9 rocket from Cape Canaveral on Jun 29 at 2104 UTC:

16.54deg, 310 x 35,627km
About GTO-1600

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Re: SpaceX F9 : SES-22 : CCSFS SLC-40 : 29 June 2022 (21:04 UTC)
« Reply #108 on: 06/30/2022 12:54 am »
People always seem to be curious about how loud launches get. Well, here's how loud today's launch of SES-22 was from the press viewing about 3 miles away.

https://twitter.com/derekiswise/status/1542264309971144704

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Re: SpaceX F9 : SES-22 : CCSFS SLC-40 : 29 June 2022 (21:04 UTC)
« Reply #109 on: 06/30/2022 03:39 am »
16.54deg, 310 x 35,627km
About GTO-1600

The ΔV requirement for the plane change from 28.5° to 16.5° in LEO is about 1,580m/s. With a payload mass of only 3.5t there was plenty of performance available to not only achieve GEO-1600, but to perform this simultaneous dogleg, which is apparent in the attached before and after stills from the webcast.

Although there were a couple of video stutters on re-entry, the telemetry data was solid, as you can see from the attached plots.

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Re: SpaceX F9 : SES-22 : CCSFS SLC-40 : 29 June 2022 (21:04 UTC)
« Reply #110 on: 06/30/2022 03:47 am »
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Fun fact, SES ordered six C-band satellites (2 each from Boeing, Northrop and Thales Alenia Space), but the TAS spacecraft were supposed to be "“contingency satellites.” Instead TAS is first in line to launch as SES clears spectrum for a ~$4 billion payout. (1/2)



At the time of the contract award (August 2020), SES was under pressure to "buy American," and really downplayed the TAS satellite order as a backup deal. But TAS finished SES-22 in less than 22 months, which is pretty impressive for a GEO satellite, esp. w/ supply chain issues.



Which drives home an important point: I've been hearing for the past year that European satellite manufacturers are outperforming their U.S. competitors. SES-22 is another indication that Europe is excelling at GEO satellite builds.



Ok this is a longer thread than planned, but that's life.

Here's a link to an article about when Thales Alenia first won this contract. SES didn't even issue a press release at the time because they were only hyping up U.S. contracts. End 🧵.

https://spacenews.com/ses-taps-thales-alenia-space-for-final-two-c-band-replacement-satellites/

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Re: SpaceX F9 : SES-22 : CCSFS SLC-40 : 29 June 2022 (21:04 UTC)
« Reply #111 on: 06/30/2022 06:22 am »
Is it me or was that booster landing particularly soft this time? Maybe with the incredible quality of video feed it just looks better than before, but that little slide at the end with the legs barely touching tells me that the touchdown was very soft.
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Re: SpaceX F9 : SES-22 : CCSFS SLC-40 : 29 June 2022 (21:04 UTC)
« Reply #112 on: 06/30/2022 07:00 am »
Is it me or was that booster landing particularly soft this time? Maybe with the incredible quality of video feed it just looks better than before, but that little slide at the end with the legs barely touching tells me that the touchdown was very soft.

With Starlink 4-19 there was a major step up in telemetry and video integrity for ASDS landings, courtesy of the Starlink network itself. The feed is now often as smooth and consistent as the RTLS landings.

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Re: SpaceX F9 : SES-22 : CCSFS SLC-40 : 29 June 2022 (21:04 UTC)
« Reply #113 on: 06/30/2022 09:50 am »
SES-22 cataloged as 52933 in a 310 x 35627 km x 16.5 deg geotransfer orbit.

https://twitter.com/planet4589/status/1542337107716444162

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Re: SpaceX F9 : SES-22 : CCSFS SLC-40 : 29 June 2022 (21:04 UTC)
« Reply #114 on: 06/30/2022 11:48 am »
Is it me or was that booster landing particularly soft this time? Maybe with the incredible quality of video feed it just looks better than before, but that little slide at the end with the legs barely touching tells me that the touchdown was very soft.

I noticed that too.  IMO it's just the greatly improved video quality.  But also variability in ASDS vertical elevation (i.e. riding the waves) probably worked out on this one to make for a perfect landing.
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Re: SpaceX F9 : SES-22 : CCSFS SLC-40 : 29 June 2022 (21:04 UTC)
« Reply #115 on: 06/30/2022 03:17 pm »
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Re: SpaceX F9 : SES-22 : CCSFS SLC-40 : 29 June 2022 (21:04 UTC)
« Reply #118 on: 06/30/2022 04:23 pm »
A wide view of the SES-22 launch from Launch Complex 40.

https://twitter.com/julia_bergeron/status/1542520747943374850

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Re: SpaceX F9 : SES-22 : CCSFS SLC-40 : 29 June 2022 (21:04 UTC)
« Reply #119 on: 06/30/2022 06:07 pm »
People always seem to be curious about how loud launches get. Well, here's how loud today's launch of SES-22 was from the press viewing about 3 miles away. (embedded Tweet)

For the record, the video showed mostly high 90s dBA with a couple peaks at 106 dBA.
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Re: SpaceX F9 : SES-22 : CCSFS SLC-40 : 29 June 2022 (21:04 UTC)
« Reply #120 on: 06/30/2022 06:10 pm »
People always seem to be curious about how loud launches get. Well, here's how loud today's launch of SES-22 was from the press viewing about 3 miles away. (embedded Tweet)

For the record, the video showed mostly high 90s dBA with a couple peaks at 106 dBA.

Sound from the press site definitely varies. Crew-4 left my ears ringing. But I've been to launches from that distance where the sound is barely louder than the crowd.
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Re: SpaceX F9 : SES-22 : CCSFS SLC-40 : 29 June 2022 (21:04 UTC)
« Reply #121 on: 06/30/2022 07:05 pm »
A nice SES-22 gallery page can be found here:
https://www.ses.com/media-gallery/ses-22-media-gallery

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Re: SpaceX F9 : SES-22 : CCSFS SLC-40 : 29 June 2022 (21:04 UTC)
« Reply #122 on: 06/30/2022 07:32 pm »
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Re: SpaceX F9 : SES-22 : CCSFS SLC-40 : 29 June 2022 (21:04 UTC)
« Reply #123 on: 06/30/2022 08:22 pm »
Eddies of condensation from superchilled liquid oxygen stored in the fuel tanks — illuminated by the warm light of the Merlin 1D exhaust below — stream down Falcon 9 at liftoff yesterday..

https://twitter.com/TrevorMahlmann/status/1542596353217511424

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Re: SpaceX F9 : SES-22 : CCSFS SLC-40 : 29 June 2022 (21:04 UTC)
« Reply #124 on: 06/30/2022 08:24 pm »
A Shortfall of Gravitas droneship is now getting underway from the LZ towards Port Canaveral with B1073.

Doug towed ASOG out but tug Finn Falgout has the honor of towing it back in for what will be its final mission with SpaceX. Arrival Jul 2-3.

https://twitter.com/SpaceOffshore/status/1542560786085810196

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Re: SpaceX F9 : SES-22 : CCSFS SLC-40 : 29 June 2022 (21:04 UTC)
« Reply #125 on: 07/01/2022 06:48 am »
16.54deg, 310 x 35,627km
About GTO-1600

I calculate 1602 m/s. :-)

Enter initial perigee height (km): 310
Enter initial apogee height (km): 35627
Enter required inclination change (deg): 16.54
Enter final orbit height (km): -1
Geosynchronous altitude = 35786.0 km

Burn at   310.0 km: theta1 =  0.00 deg, dv1 =    2.6 m/s
Burn at 35786.0 km: theta2 = 16.54 deg, dv2 = 1599.3 m/s
dv = 1602.0 m/s
Akin's Laws of Spacecraft Design #1:  Engineering is done with numbers.  Analysis without numbers is only an opinion.

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Re: SpaceX F9 : SES-22 : CCSFS SLC-40 : 29 June 2022 (21:04 UTC)
« Reply #126 on: 07/01/2022 05:31 pm »
Update / Update

This is how the garage looks@SpaceX after mission #SES22 .

https://twitter.com/SpaceNosey/status/1542909034130538498

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Re: SpaceX F9 : SES-22 : CCSFS SLC-40 : 29 June 2022 (21:04 UTC)
« Reply #127 on: 07/01/2022 08:47 pm »
Support ship Doug should return to Port Canaveral after 10pm with the two fairing halves from SES-22.

ASOG and B1073 are due back approx Sunday morning..

https://twitter.com/SpaceOffshore/status/1542947356303294465

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Re: SpaceX F9 : SES-22 : CCSFS SLC-40 : 29 June 2022 (21:04 UTC)
« Reply #128 on: 07/02/2022 02:17 pm »
https://twitter.com/spaceoffshore/status/1543236972432560129

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Doug returned just after 1am with two intact fairing halves

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Re: SpaceX F9 : SES-22 : CCSFS SLC-40 : 29 June 2022 (21:04 UTC)
« Reply #129 on: 07/03/2022 12:27 am »
ASOG droneship, B1073 and Finn Falgout should arrive at Port Canaveral around 6am ET on Sunday morning..

https://twitter.com/SpaceOffshore/status/1543351889374416896

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Re: SpaceX F9 : SES-22 : CCSFS SLC-40 : 29 June 2022 (21:04 UTC)
« Reply #130 on: 07/03/2022 09:45 am »
A Shortfall of Gravitas droneship and B1073 are inbound to Port Canaveral..

https://twitter.com/SpaceOffshore/status/1543529345322467328

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Re: SpaceX F9 : SES-22 : CCSFS SLC-40 : 29 June 2022 (21:04 UTC)
« Reply #131 on: 07/03/2022 10:56 am »
https://twitter.com/spaceoffshore/status/1543549149332869121

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Gooood morning B1073 😍☀

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Re: SpaceX F9 : SES-22 : CCSFS SLC-40 : 29 June 2022 (21:04 UTC)
« Reply #132 on: 07/03/2022 11:12 am »
Dramatic dawn

https://twitter.com/jennyhphoto/status/1543552932934729729

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Welcome back B1073!

📷: Me for @SuperclusterHQ

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https://twitter.com/jennyhphoto/status/1543554621293174784

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This was the 2nd flight of B1073. It's first launch being Starlink 4-15 (May 14th) & it's most recent mission, SES-22 (Jun 29th).

@SpaceOffshore
📷: Me for @SuperclusterHQ
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Re: SpaceX F9 : SES-22 : CCSFS SLC-40 : 29 June 2022 (21:04 UTC)
« Reply #133 on: 07/03/2022 02:18 pm »
The SES-22 mission has concluded with the return of B1073 to Port Canaveral. This was the second flight for this booster and it's a rare treat to see a mostly clean booster with so many now in the double digits of use.

https://twitter.com/julia_bergeron/status/1543578860872155136

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Re: SpaceX F9 : SES-22 : CCSFS SLC-40 : 29 June 2022 (21:04 UTC)
« Reply #134 on: 07/06/2022 07:57 pm »
https://twitter.com/trevormahlmann/status/1544771984109850627

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GIF: SES-22 takes flight from Cape Canaveral, as seen from one of my sound-activated remote cameras on the launch pad🚀

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Re: SpaceX F9 : SES-22 : CCSFS SLC-40 : 29 June 2022 (21:04 UTC)
« Reply #135 on: 08/08/2022 04:46 pm »
https://twitter.com/SES_Satellites/status/1556641312744652808
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We’re pleased to announce that SES-22 is now in service! 🛰️ Manufactured by @Thales_Alenia_S & launched by
@SpaceX, #SES22 is delivering TV & radio to millions of American homes & providing other critical data transmission services.

👉 Learn more: http://ow.ly/AZ5w50KeSMj

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Re: SpaceX F9 : SES-22 : CCSFS SLC-40 : 29 June 2022 (21:04 UTC)
« Reply #136 on: 05/18/2024 08:04 pm »
SES relocates SES-22 to 139°W.

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REQUEST FOR AUTHORITY TO RELOCATE SES-22
SES-22 is a U.S.-licensed C-band satellite that currently operates at 135° W.L. To
better serve existing and future customers, SES proposes to relocate SES-22 from 135° W.L. to
139° W.L., where it will supplement the service provided by the AMC-6 space station. SES will
continue to provide C-band capacity at the nominal 135° W.L. orbital location using SES-19,
which operates at 134.9° W.L.


SAT-MOD-20240306-00048


« Last Edit: 05/18/2024 08:08 pm by GWR64 »

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