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Re: NASA Deep Space Network: updates and discussion
« Reply #100 on: 11/22/2024 01:32 pm »
The DSN annual budget is two SLS RS-25 engines. Seems like it wouldn’t be that big a deal to up it to four SLS RS-25 engines.

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Re: NASA Deep Space Network: updates and discussion
« Reply #101 on: 11/22/2024 01:36 pm »
For a long time, these dishes have been shared between missions. The DSN hasn't ever had excess capacity.
100% tasking just means the system is working as designed.
It sounds nice, but many missions are data limited already. NASA assets produce far more data than the DSN can downlink. Hence its not "working as intended"

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Re: NASA Deep Space Network: updates and discussion
« Reply #102 on: 11/22/2024 08:44 pm »
Just checked, every terminal is tasked again.

Full allocation seems almost constant for the last several days, if not the last week.  I'd never seen it before and now it appears common/routine.  What has changed?
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Re: NASA Deep Space Network: updates and discussion
« Reply #103 on: 12/23/2024 04:23 am »
NASA’s Goldstone DSN Complex Welcomes New 34-Meter Antenna

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A time-lapse video of construction operations for a new antenna at the NASA Deep Space Network’s Goldstone Space Communications Complex near Barstow, California, on Dec. 18, 2024.

Called Deep Space Station 23 (DSS-23), the new antenna joins others at three Deep Space Network complexes around the world that communicate with spacecraft at the Moon and beyond. During construction operations on Dec. 18, the 112-foot-wide (34-meter-wide) steel parabolic reflector framework was lowered into position by crane before a crew bolted it into place. Shortly after, engineers placed what’s called a quadripod onto the center of the dish framework. A four-legged support structure, the quadripod weighs 16 ½ tons and features a curved subreflector that will direct radio frequency signals from deep space to bounce off the main reflector into the antenna’s pedestal, where the antenna’s receiver is housed.

DSS-23 is a multi-frequency beam waveguide antenna that will boost the DSN’s capacity and enhance NASA’s deep space communications capabilities for decades to come. Once online in 2026, DSS-23 will be the fifth of six new beam waveguide antennas to be added to the network, following DSS-53, which was added at the DSN’s Madrid complex in 2022.

The DSN allows missions to track, send commands to, and receive scientific data from faraway spacecraft. It is managed by NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Southern California for the agency’s Space Communications and Navigation (SCaN) program, which is located at NASA Headquarters within the Space Operations Mission Directorate.

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Re: NASA Deep Space Network: updates and discussion
« Reply #105 on: 02/26/2025 08:40 pm »
How Do Space Missions Stay Connected?



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The journey to the Moon isn’t just about the technology involved in the incredible rocket that placed it into orbit, or the precise manoeuvres the Athena lander needs to make to place it successfully on the lunar surface. It’s also a gigantic communication challenge. Much more than I think people may realise. Staying connected and passing considerable data back and forth from ground stations to Athena is obviously critical. What’s more, communication assets get super saturated and it can be hard to plan out a perfect strategy to  accommodate not just this mission, but all the others going on around our solar system. How are Intuitive Machines doing this? Well, I’m thrilled to finally show you a big part of this story and they were kind enough to send me across Australia to show you exclusively the part of the story that I’m sure you are likely unaware of. Indeed, Intuitive Machines are utilising Australian assets to provide and evolve critical connectivity from the southern hemisphere. After all, before we return humans to the Moon, we need to demonstrate 24/7 mission control, and that includes future data relay networks too. It all starts with this IM-2 mission using vital assets down under. Thanks to CSIRO’s Murriyang radio telescope and Fugro’s SpAARC facility, IM-2 is pioneering the next phase of lunar communications.
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Re: NASA Deep Space Network: updates and discussion
« Reply #106 on: 04/05/2025 08:40 am »
https://x.com/nascom1/status/1905984080338153918

After last weeks official groundbreaking for the DSN's newest antenna DSS33, the official groundwork has now started. New access roads and areas for keeping the soil from the yet to be dug hole are being cleared.
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Re: NASA Deep Space Network: updates and discussion
« Reply #107 on: 04/09/2025 05:28 am »
https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/nasas-deep-space-network-starts-new-dish-marks-60-years-in-australia/

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NASA’s Deep Space Network Starts New Dish, Marks 60 Years in Australia
April 8, 2025
The radio antennas of NASA’s Canberra Deep Space Communications Complex

The radio antennas of NASA’s Canberra Deep Space Communications Complex are located near the Australian capital. It’s one of three Deep Space Network facilities around the world that keep the agency in contact with dozens of space missions
Credit: NASA
Canberra complex

Canberra joined the global network in 1965 and operates four radio antennas. Now, preparations have begun on its fifth as NASA works to increase the network’s capacity.

NASA’s Deep Space Network facility in Canberra, Australia celebrated its 60th anniversary on March 19 while also breaking ground on a new radio antenna. The pair of achievements are major milestones for the network, which communicates with spacecraft all over the solar system using giant dish antennas located at three complexes around the globe.

Canberra’s newest addition, Deep Space Station 33, will be a 112-foot-wide (34-meter-wide) multifrequency beam-waveguide antenna. Buried mostly below ground, a massive concrete pedestal will house cutting-edge electronics and receivers in a climate-controlled room and provide a sturdy base for the reflector dish, which will rotate during operations on a steel platform called an alidade.
Suzanne Dodd

Suzanne Dodd, the director for the Interplanetary Network Directorate at JPL, addresses an audience at the Deep Space Network’s Canberra complex on March 19, 2025. That day marked 60 years since the Australian facility joined the network.
Credit: NASA

“As we look back on 60 years of incredible accomplishments at Canberra, the groundbreaking of a new antenna is a symbol for the next 60 years of scientific discovery,” said Kevin Coggins, deputy associate administrator of NASA’s SCaN (Space Communications and Navigation) Program at NASA Headquarters in Washington. “Building cutting-edge antennas is also a symbol of how the Deep Space Network embraces new technologies to enable the exploration of a growing fleet of space missions.”

When it goes online in 2029, the new Canberra dish will be the last of six parabolic dishes constructed under NASA’s Deep Space Network Aperture Enhancement Program, which is helping to support current and future spacecraft and the increased volume of data they provide. The network’s Madrid facility christened a new dish in 2022, and the Goldstone, California, facility is putting the finishing touches on a new antenna.
Three DSN posters

Three eye-catching posters featuring the larger 230-foot (70-meter) antennas located at the three Deep Space Network complexes around the world.
Credit: NASA/JPL-Caltech
Canberra’s Role

The Deep Space Network was officially founded on Dec. 24, 1963, when NASA’s early ground stations, including Goldstone, were connected to the new network control center at the agency’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Southern California. Called the Space Flight Operations Facility, that building remains the center through which data from the three global complexes flows.

The Madrid facility joined in 1964, and Canberra went online in 1965, going on to help support hundreds of missions, including the Apollo Moon landings.

“Canberra has played a crucial part in tracking, communicating, and collecting data from some of the most momentous missions in space history,” said Kevin Ferguson, director of the Canberra Deep Space Communication Complex. “As the network continues to advance and grow, Canberra will continue to play a key role in supporting humanity’s exploration of the cosmos.”

By being spaced equidistant from one another around the globe, the complexes can provide continual coverage of spacecraft, no matter where they are in the solar system as Earth rotates. There is an exception, however: Due to Canberra’s location in the Southern Hemisphere, it is the only one that can send commands to, and receive data from, Voyager 2 as it heads south almost 13 billion miles (21 billion kilometers) through interstellar space. More than 15 billion miles (24 billion kilometers) away, Voyager 1 sends its data down to the Madrid and Goldstone complexes, but it, too, can only receive commands via Canberra.
New Technologies

In addition to constructing more antennas like Canberra’s Deep Space Station 33, NASA is looking to the future by also experimenting with laser, or optical, communications to enable significantly more data to flow to and from Earth. The Deep Space Network currently relies on radio frequencies to communicate, but laser operates at a higher frequency, allowing more data to be transmitted.

As part of that effort, NASA is flying the laser-based Deep Space Optical Communications experiment with the agency’s Psyche mission. Since the October 2023 launch, it has demonstrated high data rates over record-breaking distances and downlinked ultra-high definition streaming video from deep space.

“These new technologies have the potential to boost the science and exploration returns of missions traveling throughout the solar system,” said Amy Smith, deputy project manager for the Deep Space Network at JPL, which manages the network. “Laser and radio communications could even be combined to build hybrid antennas, or dishes that can communicate using both radio and optical frequencies at the same time. That could be a game changer for NASA.”

For more information about the Deep Space Network, visit:

https://www.nasa.gov/communicating-with-missions/dsn/
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Re: NASA Deep Space Network: updates and discussion
« Reply #108 on: 04/18/2025 08:17 pm »
https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/nasas-deep-space-network-starts-new-dish-marks-60-years-in-australia/?fbclid=IwY2xjawJvkghleHRuA2FlbQIxMAABHsz6S331AFcGmsNRIj5R3PaSUrLH1JevRD7cwVqlR7gW2HJvndjrbr4_YJHU_aem_0v4ywB97yKLGj9j470FlFg

NASA’s Deep Space Network Starts New Dish, Marks 60 Years in Australia
April 8, 2025
The radio antennas of NASA’s Canberra Deep Space Communications Complex

The radio antennas of NASA’s Canberra Deep Space Communications Complex are located near the Australian capital. It’s one of three Deep Space Network facilities around the world that keep the agency in contact with dozens of space missions
Credit: NASA
Canberra complex

Canberra joined the global network in 1965 and operates four radio antennas. Now, preparations have begun on its fifth as NASA works to increase the network’s capacity.

NASA’s Deep Space Network facility in Canberra, Australia celebrated its 60th anniversary on March 19 while also breaking ground on a new radio antenna. The pair of achievements are major milestones for the network, which communicates with spacecraft all over the solar system using giant dish antennas located at three complexes around the globe.

Canberra’s newest addition, Deep Space Station 33, will be a 112-foot-wide (34-meter-wide) multifrequency beam-waveguide antenna. Buried mostly below ground, a massive concrete pedestal will house cutting-edge electronics and receivers in a climate-controlled room and provide a sturdy base for the reflector dish, which will rotate during operations on a steel platform called an alidade.
Suzanne Dodd

Suzanne Dodd, the director for the Interplanetary Network Directorate at JPL, addresses an audience at the Deep Space Network’s Canberra complex on March 19, 2025. That day marked 60 years since the Australian facility joined the network.
Credit: NASA

“As we look back on 60 years of incredible accomplishments at Canberra, the groundbreaking of a new antenna is a symbol for the next 60 years of scientific discovery,” said Kevin Coggins, deputy associate administrator of NASA’s SCaN (Space Communications and Navigation) Program at NASA Headquarters in Washington. “Building cutting-edge antennas is also a symbol of how the Deep Space Network embraces new technologies to enable the exploration of a growing fleet of space missions.”

When it goes online in 2029, the new Canberra dish will be the last of six parabolic dishes constructed under NASA’s Deep Space Network Aperture Enhancement Program, which is helping to support current and future spacecraft and the increased volume of data they provide. The network’s Madrid facility christened a new dish in 2022, and the Goldstone, California, facility is putting the finishing touches on a new antenna.
Three DSN posters

Three eye-catching posters featuring the larger 230-foot (70-meter) antennas located at the three Deep Space Network complexes around the world.
Credit: NASA/JPL-Caltech
Canberra’s Role

The Deep Space Network was officially founded on Dec. 24, 1963, when NASA’s early ground stations, including Goldstone, were connected to the new network control center at the agency’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Southern California. Called the Space Flight Operations Facility, that building remains the center through which data from the three global complexes flows.

The Madrid facility joined in 1964, and Canberra went online in 1965, going on to help support hundreds of missions, including the Apollo Moon landings.

“Canberra has played a crucial part in tracking, communicating, and collecting data from some of the most momentous missions in space history,” said Kevin Ferguson, director of the Canberra Deep Space Communication Complex. “As the network continues to advance and grow, Canberra will continue to play a key role in supporting humanity’s exploration of the cosmos.”

By being spaced equidistant from one another around the globe, the complexes can provide continual coverage of spacecraft, no matter where they are in the solar system as Earth rotates. There is an exception, however: Due to Canberra’s location in the Southern Hemisphere, it is the only one that can send commands to, and receive data from, Voyager 2 as it heads south almost 13 billion miles (21 billion kilometers) through interstellar space. More than 15 billion miles (24 billion kilometers) away, Voyager 1 sends its data down to the Madrid and Goldstone complexes, but it, too, can only receive commands via Canberra.
New Technologies

In addition to constructing more antennas like Canberra’s Deep Space Station 33, NASA is looking to the future by also experimenting with laser, or optical, communications to enable significantly more data to flow to and from Earth. The Deep Space Network currently relies on radio frequencies to communicate, but laser operates at a higher frequency, allowing more data to be transmitted.

As part of that effort, NASA is flying the laser-based Deep Space Optical Communications experiment with the agency’s Psyche mission. Since the October 2023 launch, it has demonstrated high data rates over record-breaking distances and downlinked ultra-high definition streaming video from deep space.

“These new technologies have the potential to boost the science and exploration returns of missions traveling throughout the solar system,” said Amy Smith, deputy project manager for the Deep Space Network at JPL, which manages the network. “Laser and radio communications could even be combined to build hybrid antennas, or dishes that can communicate using both radio and optical frequencies at the same time. That could be a game changer for NASA.”

For more information about the Deep Space Network, visit:

https://www.nasa.gov/communicating-with-missions/dsn/

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Re: NASA Deep Space Network: updates and discussion
« Reply #109 on: 04/26/2025 09:51 am »
The most inactive terminals I've seen in months...
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Re: NASA Deep Space Network: updates and discussion
« Reply #110 on: 04/26/2025 07:06 pm »
When Goldstone shows DSS-14 as GSSR (Goldstone Solar System Radar), you can find the target at The Goldstone Asteroid Schedule.  As of today, 26 April 2025, looks like they are observing 612356 2002 JX8. DSS-14 is the only dish with a transmitter.  Any other dish showing GSSR is an additional receiver.

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« Reply #111 on: 04/26/2025 10:44 pm »
First time no Lucy connects since the close approach.  All the data downloaded? 
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« Reply #112 on: 04/29/2025 02:55 pm »
Every Madrid terminal is down
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« Reply #113 on: 04/29/2025 08:50 pm »
Massive power outage across Spain, Portugal and part of France apparently.

Back up and running again now though some spacecraft info appears to be missing for all the active dishes across the network.
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Re: NASA Deep Space Network: updates and discussion
« Reply #114 on: 05/30/2025 02:48 pm »
Canberra is in contact with TDRS 8 which is one of the two TDRS-Z/275 birds.   The last time I saw this was after the typhoon destroyed the Guam ground station.  I didn't think it was typhoon season yet but I think I saw there was an earthquake south of Guam yesterday...
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« Reply #116 on: 06/23/2025 11:07 am »
NASA succeeding in silencing one of the best independent voices on DSN activities.  Disgusting. https://twitter.com/nascom1/status/1936941190202691987
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« Reply #118 on: 11/12/2025 02:13 pm »
Ground News: NASA's Mars Antenna Offline After Mechanical Failure [Nov 11]

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On Nov. 10, JPL confirmed DSS-14 has been offline since Sept. 16, with no return date, as `the antenna remains offline as the board members, engineers, and technicians evaluate the structure and make recommendations and repairs`.

Engineers say an over-rotation on Sept. 16 strained cabling and piping at DSS-14, the 70-meter Mars Antenna, damaging fire suppression hoses and causing quickly mitigated flooding.

Mashable: NASA has a broken giant antenna that could upend its 2026 plans [Nov 11]

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NASA has established a formal mishap investigation board to examine what led to the antenna’s damage.

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The repair timeline remains unclear, leaving open the question of how the outage may affect preparations for Artemis II, a 10-day crewed mission that will orbit the moon as early as next year.
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« Reply #119 on: 11/12/2025 10:28 pm »
Key antenna in NASA’s Deep Space Network damaged
by Jeff Foust November 11, 2025   

WASHINGTON — One of the largest antennas in NASA’s Deep Space Network was damaged in September and may be out of service for an extended period, further straining the system.

NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory confirmed Nov. 10 that the 70-meter antenna at the Deep Space Network (DSN) site in Goldstone, California, has been offline since Sept. 16, with no timetable for its return to service.

“On Sept. 16, NASA’s large 70-meter radio frequency antenna at its Goldstone Deep Space Communications Complex near Barstow, California, over-rotated, causing stress on the cabling and piping in the center of the structure,” JPL said in a statement to SpaceNews. “Hoses from the antenna’s fire suppression system also were damaged, resulting in flooding that was quickly mitigated.”

The antenna, designated DSS-14, is the largest at the Goldstone site and among the largest in the entire DSN. Two other 70-meter antennas operate at DSN sites near Madrid, Spain, and Canberra, Australia. The 70-meter antennas are essential for communicating with spacecraft in the outer solar system and can also be used for closer missions requiring higher data rates or experiencing technical problems. Each DSN site also has several smaller antennas.

Rumors of significant damage to DSS-14 had circulated for weeks. A website that provides real-time monitoring of DSN communications showed no activity at DSS-14, displaying only an “Antenna Unplanned Maintenance” status. JPL said last month that it could not comment on the antenna’s status, citing difficulties coordinating with NASA offices during the government shutdown.
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