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Xichang Satellite Launch Center
« on: 05/14/2007 11:37 pm »
I have this photos of some launch pads at Xichang. Can someone identify them?

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Re: Xichang Satellite Launch Center
« Reply #1 on: 05/15/2007 12:35 am »
Looking at the book "China's Space Program" by Brian Harvey and taking into account this http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2006-12/30/content_5551214.htm from Xinhua, I say that Image Pad a and b are Launch Tower 3 (LC3). The other images are from LC2. So, what is LC1?

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Re: Xichang Satellite Launch Center
« Reply #2 on: 05/17/2007 05:19 pm »
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Satori - 14/5/2007  7:35 PM

Looking at the book "China's Space Program" by Brian Harvey and taking into account this http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2006-12/30/content_5551214.htm from Xinhua, I say that Image Pad a and b are Launch Tower 3 (LC3). The other images are from LC2. So, what is LC1?

My understanding is that the "new" LC3 is actually a rebuild of the original LC1.  Pad 2 uses a service tower on rails.  Pad 1 (and apparently 3) use a fixed service structure with fold-back platforms.

Google now has high quality sat images of the two pads, plus a view of a previously unknown flat pad located just northwest of the two Long March pads.  
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=28.2455+N,+102.027+E&ie=UTF8&z=17&ll=28.246129,102.026778&spn=0.004149,0.010729&t=k&om=1&iwloc=addr

I suspect that the flat pad was the recent launch site of the ASAT test, which implies use of a mobile launcher.

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Re: Xichang Satellite Launch Center
« Reply #3 on: 05/28/2007 05:19 pm »
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I have this photos of some launch pads at Xichang. Can someone identify them?

I call East Pad or Pad 1 the pad in use since 1984 for CZ-3 and CZ-2C (which was rebuilt in 2005-2006 as Pad 3), and West Pad or Pad 2 the one in use for CZ-2E, CZ-3A and CZ-3B since 1990. In this system of designations:

a.jpg: Pad 1 in the foreground with Pad 2 to the left.
b.jpg: Pad 2 in the foreground with Pad 1 in the background.
c.jpg: Pad 1
d.jpg: the stationary part of Pad 2, without the mobile tower.
e.jpg: Pad 2
f.jpg: Pad 3 after rebuilding; Pad 2 is just over the left border of the image. Note the road and the tunnel entry at the background hills.
This message reflects my personal opinion based on open sources of information.

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Re: Xichang Satellite Launch Center
« Reply #4 on: 06/29/2007 09:50 am »
this photo shows everything

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Re: Xichang Satellite Launch Center
« Reply #5 on: 06/30/2007 02:09 pm »
Captions to the above:

1. Service Tower
2. Umbilical Tower
3. Launch Pad #2  
4. Launch Control Center (LCC)
5. Aiming Room
6. Tracking Station
7. Cryogenic Propellant Fueling System
8. Storable Propellant Fueling System
9. Launch Pad #1

From: LM-3C USER’S MANUAL Chapter 7 (1998)

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Re: Xichang Satellite Launch Center
« Reply #6 on: 07/01/2007 02:53 am »
9. Should be launch pad #3
There is no launch pad #1 in Xi Chang

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Re: Xichang Satellite Launch Center
« Reply #7 on: 07/01/2007 03:09 am »
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9. Should be launch pad #3
There is no launch pad #1 in Xi Chang

Right, but there was in 1998 when the Long March User's Manual was published.  Pad #1 was refurbished and reopened as Pad #3 last year.  It's use this year, along with Pad #2, has made XiChang the world's second busiest launch site, after Baikonur, this year to date.

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Re: Xichang Satellite Launch Center
« Reply #8 on: 07/01/2007 09:29 am »
Where is launch Pad #1 in XiChang? That's an interesting question. When XiChang started to build launch pad, China introduced a manned spaceship project. The original design of launch pad #1 was a manned spaceship launch pad, however, the project is failed,then China selected JiuQuan as their manned spaceship launch center. So, the area where launch pad #1 should be still empty now, it's 2km away from pad #2.

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Re: Xichang Satellite Launch Center
« Reply #9 on: 10/19/2007 06:17 pm »
Two nice images from the launch pads at Xichang (thanks mion70!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

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Re: Xichang Satellite Launch Center
« Reply #10 on: 01/08/2012 01:04 pm »
A new thread dedicated the Xichang Satellite Launch Center where we can have informations, pictures, maps and the history of this Chinese space complex.

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Re: Xichang Satellite Launch Center
« Reply #11 on: 01/09/2012 03:32 am »
Some photos taken inside XSLC by a tourist.

http://lt.cjdby.net/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=1280894

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Re: Xichang Satellite Launch Center
« Reply #12 on: 03/02/2012 12:18 pm »
Some interesting pictures of XSLC setting, museum and local people
http://jhtndkq.blog.sohu.com/205067947.html

The signs in the top line in the picture below represent "XSLC" in the local language writing (Yi)
Xichang is writtenꀒꎂ(pronounced something like "Oh! Joe" in Yi)
« Last Edit: 03/04/2012 03:39 pm by input~2 »

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Re: Xichang Satellite Launch Center
« Reply #13 on: 03/02/2012 02:01 pm »
Some interesting pictures of XSLC setting, museum and local people

Looks like an amazing place!

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Re: Xichang Satellite Launch Center
« Reply #14 on: 03/02/2012 04:24 pm »
Some interesting pictures of XSLC setting, museum and local people

Looks like an amazing place!
Worth a visit :) since apparently it's open to foreign visitors

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Re: Xichang Satellite Launch Center
« Reply #15 on: 03/02/2012 07:51 pm »
So Chris, when are you starting NSF tours?

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Re: Xichang Satellite Launch Center
« Reply #16 on: 03/03/2012 09:39 am »
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Worth a visit  since apparently it's open to foreign visitors

Not easy though without the right professional contacts. I was in the region twice, and twice tried to organize a visit, but it's tricky. You first need clearance with the PSB, so your passport et al will be send to Beijing for a check, taking two weeks at best, and only then you'll get permission as a foreigner to get on a tour. There's supposed to be tourism operators in Xichang (the major city some 90km away) that organize the lot, still taking up to two weeks, but I could never find them in the city. Tried all the tricks in the book, but both times it was in vain. The city is littered with little statues to Long March rockets.

The launch centre itself is up a narrow valley, so hard to get access to by just riding around the neighborhood, lots of uniforms and roadblocks around. Stunning region of China though...
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Re: Xichang Satellite Launch Center
« Reply #17 on: 03/27/2014 12:54 pm »
Photo of the launch pad #3 is made on January 1, 2014.

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Re: Xichang Satellite Launch Center
« Reply #18 on: 03/31/2014 01:22 pm »
Here's a really good Google Earth flythrough of Xichang from NTI:

http://www.nti.org/facilities/883/
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Re: Xichang Satellite Launch Center
« Reply #19 on: 09/19/2015 06:23 pm »
We can see how the Chinese are modernizing launch pad 3. They are changing launch table and widening gas pan. Probably for new rocket?

 

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