Looks like they got a lot of learnings to process and likely a number of changes needed in IM-2 such as a way to verify the laser safety pin is in place before launch. Maybe instead of pin they should have a switch with a lockout? Sounds like this was a bit of a last minute jerry-rig to meet a range safety requirement.
Green tag is for items that need to installed before flight. Standard practice is an enable plug vs a wire pin. The issue is their implementation. Items like this would be known years before flying as part of safety review process. NASA usually hand holds payloads through this process and most of the payloads know to do things like this. My take on this is a new company going through the process and SpaceX doing the minimum to host/facilitate (their facility, their rocket) the process and they don't know what is flying next month much less next year so their review process is just in time. Things are done much later in the mission cycle and certainly much later in the design and development process (spacecraft in manufacture vs in design reviews).
UPDATE 2.0 (unofficial): This is how I have interpreted the landing based on recent photos. Note the rock placements are artistic license and it reads right to left because it's going to be inserted into the main infographic I am updating.
QuoteUPDATE 2.0 (unofficial): This is how I have interpreted the landing based on recent photos. Note the rock placements are artistic license and it reads right to left because it's going to be inserted into the main infographic I am updating.
Quote from: catdlr on 02/29/2024 03:26 amQuoteUPDATE 2.0 (unofficial): This is how I have interpreted the landing based on recent photos. Note the rock placements are artistic license and it reads right to left because it's going to be inserted into the main infographic I am updating.Still needs work to match the press conference, the ground has some slope and the lander is leaning on one of the side tanks...
After reading this I will always envision a lander whose vision was blinded but it flies heroically toward the surface, guessing how far to go, impacting too hard and sliding across the ground, flinging rocks and dust while the engine still spews flame, metal bending and a leg snapping free before it skids to a stop, teetering, bruised and covered with dust, but proudly upright on the freaking Moon for a brief moment, and it says, “Hey bruh. I did it.”🔥
I visited Intuitive Machines on Tuesday wondering whether the Odysseus mission was a success or a failure. I left without any doubts.
I notice some lack of perspective in this thread. This landing was a WILD SUCCESS! Yes, it was a "soft" landing. Not "soft" would have been a smoking crater on the ground with immediate and terminal end-of-signal. Do you know how hard this is to do? How easy to screw up a little thing and fail completely, like so many other landers or spacecraft have done, with much larger budgets? Some people here are nuts.I'll be the first to make fun of their hyperbole vs. screw ups, but it was a success. And now they'll fix their problems and will keep putting landers on the moon.
UPDATE 3.0: Function over aesthetics, in this case, everything was working against me in creating an infographic that reads right to left, I did have an end goal in mind (more for visually appealing reasons), but once admitting defeat, the realization was clear I was trying to reinvent the wheel. Now that I am reworking this left to right, the tangled mess in my brain now sees clarity. Now I just have to work out the other steps that lead to Odysseus’ final resting place.
The ILOA image from the surface has a surprise hiding in the glare:
Surprisingly #IM1 @Int_Machines @CrainTim kept transmitting throughout the night until LOS this morning @SternwarteBO !! 😃The transmitter seemed to turn on every 30 minutes or so. Video is available here: https://youtube.com/watch?v=UfEe35_lv7w
Quote from: brussell on 02/28/2024 10:21 pmI notice some lack of perspective in this thread. This landing was a WILD SUCCESS! Yes, it was a "soft" landing. Not "soft" would have been a smoking crater on the ground with immediate and terminal end-of-signal. Do you know how hard this is to do? How easy to screw up a little thing and fail completely, like so many other landers or spacecraft have done, with much larger budgets? Some people here are nuts.I'll be the first to make fun of their hyperbole vs. screw ups, but it was a success. And now they'll fix their problems and will keep putting landers on the moon.Next time you'll get a plane you will understand why this landing was a failure. Anyway, we have a failed landing followed by a successful mission. It was by luck, or by chance, or by God wish, anyway the lander survived to a catastrophic slow-motion landing (only low gravity prevented lander from being destroyed on impact: it took 2 seconds for it to tip over) . Now, the root cause of the bad landing: no space flight know-how. Now they know they need quality procedures and pre-launch checklists, they can't do everything by heart and hope everything goes well: you mis-design a pin (hiding it to view), you forgot to check if a fundamental payload is ready for launch, and you burn 200 milion dollars in a second. Apart from this:I wonder how they fixed an "hardware problem in SCALPSS serial port" without going up there with a screwdriver: these guys appear really confused about terminology: hardware, software, success, failure,... everything is a mess. About confusion: they look really confused also about how to read telemetries: is it that complex to read onboard accelerometers and figure out final resting attitude? 0 degrees, no, 90 degrees, no maybe 30 degrees... Very embarassing engineering, here. And finally: congratulations to the developer of the algorithm for visual navigation, it saved the mission. Now we know that laser finder are maybe not needed at all, as long there is enough time to process images onboard to also determine altitude, not just speed: my 200$ smartphone can determine object dimensions with cm precision using just one camera, the accelerometer and the gyroscope, just by SW processing (look for "AR measure" on playstore) , and thanks to ARcore library it can build a 3d model of my room in realtime while I move it around.
Odysseus Trajectory from Schomberger to Malapert A ^ 🧭 Tipping of Odyssey 🛸 On Its Back w/ One Side Solar Panel Up 🔆 Forward Solar🔆 To Schomberger, Aft Engine 🔥 & Legs 🦿 To Malapert A 6️⃣ & the Sun set 🌄⚫ ¹!?_¹https://twitter.com/SpacesFuture/status/1763094971077533924^https://twitter.com/SpacesFuture/status/1760741512785350988
ODYSSEUS FLIES BY CRATER SCHOMBERGER KLEFT: Landscape around @Int_Machines Odysseus on final descent from Schomberger (left) to Malapert A (right). Dashed box is area in next pic. RIGHT: Stunning pic from Odysseus' @ILOA_Hawaii imager w/ Schomberger K at left.@SETIInstitute
