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Offline jpo234

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The Yenisei super-heavy rocket
« on: 04/14/2023 12:58 pm »
https://twitter.com/RussianSpaceWeb/status/1646570607725649921

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Roscosmos says it would jump-start the frozen development of the super-heavy launcher next year "...on the instructions from the president."
Apparently, recent pics of SLS and Starship made quite an impression on somebody who never uses the Internet ;) https://russianspaceweb.com/superheavy.html
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Re: The Yenisei super-heavy rocket
« Reply #1 on: 04/14/2023 01:15 pm »
Any idea of the payload capability of this rocket.   I noticed, as typical of Russian heavy rockets, is having to cluster rail transported cores.  Not a bad idea, but not as efficient as a large single core rocket. 

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Re: The Yenisei super-heavy rocket
« Reply #2 on: 04/14/2023 01:26 pm »
Any idea of the payload capability of this rocket.   I noticed, as typical of Russian heavy rockets, is having to cluster rail transported cores.  Not a bad idea, but not as efficient as a large single core rocket.
The abstract of one of the Insider articles says:
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The third option under consideration evaluates an Energia-like vehicle capable of hauling up to 120 tons of cargo into low orbit and up to 29 tons into the orbit around the Moon. Whereas the original Energia carried a side-mounted space plane, the new vehicle was designed to carry payloads in its nose cone, sending them on lunar-bound trajectories.
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Re: The Yenisei super-heavy rocket
« Reply #3 on: 04/14/2023 02:02 pm »
The Insider requires payment.  I'm not going to pay for something I probably won't use very often or only once in a blue moon.  However, 120 tons is not bad and allows Russia to get to the moon with a decent payload.  They are spending a lot of mony in Ukraine, so this may take a while for them to develop.  Angara has taken a long time.  They are also still using expendable rockets. 

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Re: The Yenisei super-heavy rocket
« Reply #4 on: 04/14/2023 02:40 pm »
Any idea of the payload capability of this rocket.   I noticed, as typical of Russian heavy rockets, is having to cluster rail transported cores.  Not a bad idea, but not as efficient as a large single core rocket.
The abstract of one of the Insider articles says:
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The third option under consideration evaluates an Energia-like vehicle capable of hauling up to 120 tons of cargo into low orbit and up to 29 tons into the orbit around the Moon. Whereas the original Energia carried a side-mounted space plane, the new vehicle was designed to carry payloads in its nose cone, sending them on lunar-bound trajectories.
The Energia-like design option reminds me of an Ariane 5-like SLV given that it is described as carrying payloads in the nose cone.

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Re: The Yenisei super-heavy rocket
« Reply #5 on: 04/14/2023 02:43 pm »
Any idea who this Yenisei will be derived from, the Angara 5 or the Irtysh-Soyuz 5?
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Re: The Yenisei super-heavy rocket
« Reply #6 on: 04/14/2023 03:00 pm »
Any idea who this Yenisei will be derived from, the Angara 5 or the Irtysh-Soyuz 5?

Soyuz-5, according to Wikipedia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yenisei_(rocket)#Design
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Re: The Yenisei super-heavy rocket
« Reply #7 on: 04/14/2023 03:55 pm »
Any idea who this Yenisei will be derived from, the Angara 5 or the Irtysh-Soyuz 5?

Soyuz-5, according to Wikipedia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yenisei_(rocket)#Design

Yeah, but I think, that is the old design...
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Re: The Yenisei super-heavy rocket
« Reply #8 on: 04/14/2023 04:38 pm »
Why start a new thread for this, when we already have one available?

https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=31049.300

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Re: The Yenisei super-heavy rocket
« Reply #9 on: 04/14/2023 06:46 pm »
Why start a new thread for this, when we already have one available?

https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=31049.300
I was looking for variants of Yenisei and couldn't find it. Maybe a Mod can move this thread to the existing one...
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