What are the barriers to introducing the equivalent legal distinctions? They seem to conceptually map pretty well...
I can't tell if it's reusable or consumable. One deorbiter per satellite doesn't seem very feasible, but maybe if they could be launched multiple at a time cheaply, it could work.
Might have something to do with thouse libertarian types that have torpedoed this kind of stuff every time.
Quote from: Impaler on 06/01/2016 04:32 amMight have something to do with thouse libertarian types that have torpedoed this kind of stuff every time.Might it have something to do with those national security types who know what sorts of "derelict" technologies are up there, and don't relish the thought of some Chinese or Russian or eventually North Korean outfit "salvaging" some of their gear?
Quote from: Arcas on 06/01/2016 02:43 amI can't tell if it's reusable or consumable. One deorbiter per satellite doesn't seem very feasible, but maybe if they could be launched multiple at a time cheaply, it could work.The first part seems undeniable: Consuming an entire satellite for each disposal is incredibly expensive.
Has anyone heard of any concept that would attempt to capture looser debris using a sieve-like scoop, perhaps? After making several orbits (even changing its altitude to capture items within a certain altitude and angle), it would deorbit itself.
Quote from: Lar on 06/01/2016 02:21 amWhat are the barriers to introducing the equivalent legal distinctions? They seem to conceptually map pretty well...It should be strait forward to apply the maritime concepts, but guess what country has still not ratified the UNCLOS if something that basic can't be ratified it's no surprise all of Space has not been dealt with.Might have something to do with thouse libertarian types that have torpedoed this kind of stuff every time.
Has anyone heard of any concept that would attempt to capture looser debris using a sieve-like scoop, perhaps? After making several orbits (even changing its altitude to capture items within a certain altitude and angle), it would deorbit itself.Space is a big place, but I would not want to hear of satellites, manned especially, getting pummeled by the next big problem of space habitation or commercialization.
Quote from: MattMason on 05/31/2016 07:41 pmHas anyone heard of any concept that would attempt to capture looser debris using a sieve-like scoop, perhaps? After making several orbits (even changing its altitude to capture items within a certain altitude and angle), it would deorbit itself.Space is a big place, but I would not want to hear of satellites, manned especially, getting pummeled by the next big problem of space habitation or commercialization.Because space is so BIG, a scoop is impractical. The best way for small debris would be to have a gigantic inflating sphere, something, say on the order of a kilometer or two across, that fills with foam. Small debris impacts and gets embedded in the foam, and its huge cross section means its orbit will naturally decay rapidly due to atmospheric drag.
If ESA can make a couple or more runs of this on their satellites, the market to bring down old satellites (and therefore free up a space for a new one and save many others from MMOD) is a clear winner. It shouldn't be an ESA-only matter.
Solve the legal structure and the tech will fix itself, leave the legal side as it is an any tech will go un-used.
I can't tell if it's reusable or consumable. One deorbiter per satellite doesn't seem very feasible, but maybe if they could be launched multiple at a time cheaply, it could work
But I am sure they'd be equally annoyed if their shiny new satellite that they've just spent a huge amount of money on gets taken out by a random piece of space junk.
A company called Tethers Unlimited has designed such a system which they are selling to cube-sats and even larger sats as their do seem to be some regulations about cube-sats needing to de-orbit in a few years. http://www.tethers.com/TT.html
I seem to recall that the Vectran fabric used for some prototype inflatable modules could make such an expansion. Simply change it to open like a flower. Low weight, very dense, could have that inner foam catching layer.