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Secrets of the Skunk Works
« on: 07/30/2014 07:36 pm »
Just a heads up for the current issue of Air & Space magazine all sorts of interesting bits and pieces apparently, and yes some is space related from the summaries I've read

http://www.airspacemag.com/military-aviation/secrets-skunk-works-180952122/

It really does show you what a genius Kelly Johnson was.

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Re: Secrets of the Skunk Works
« Reply #1 on: 07/30/2014 07:57 pm »
 I'd definitely suggest reading Ben Rich's Skunk Works if you'd like a real inside view.
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Re: Secrets of the Skunk Works
« Reply #2 on: 07/30/2014 08:32 pm »
Thanks. I've ordered this issue so I'll fill in more later when I receive it. Apparently there's a design in there for a Mach 25 spaceplane which sounds interesting.

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Re: Secrets of the Skunk Works
« Reply #3 on: 08/04/2014 05:52 pm »
Thanks. I've ordered this issue so I'll fill in more later when I receive it. Apparently there's a design in there for a Mach 25 spaceplane which sounds interesting.

Probably a nit but doesn't ANY spaceplane have to be capable of Mach-25 to BE a spaceplane? :)

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Re: Secrets of the Skunk Works
« Reply #4 on: 08/04/2014 06:26 pm »
When did the X-15 fly Mach 25?
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Re: Secrets of the Skunk Works
« Reply #5 on: 08/04/2014 08:50 pm »

When did the X-15 fly Mach 25?

Who said anything about the X-15?

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Re: Secrets of the Skunk Works
« Reply #6 on: 08/04/2014 11:00 pm »
Are you saying it wasn't a "space plane"?
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Re: Secrets of the Skunk Works
« Reply #7 on: 08/05/2014 09:13 am »

Are you saying it wasn't a "space plane"?

It is by why are you assuming it's the X-15, these are projects that weren't built not ones that were.

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Re: Secrets of the Skunk Works
« Reply #8 on: 08/06/2014 07:39 pm »
If you want to read a good book about Skunk Works, I can recommend this book:


Skunk Works: A Personal Memoir of My Years at Lockheed Paperback – February 1, 1996
by Ben R. Rich   (Author),   Leo Janos   (Author)
Paperback: 372 pages
Publisher: Back Bay Books; 1st edition (February 1, 1996)
Language: English
ISBN-10: 0316743003
ISBN-13: 978-0316743006
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Re: Secrets of the Skunk Works
« Reply #9 on: 08/06/2014 07:43 pm »
If you want to read a good book about Skunk Works, I can recommend this book:


Skunk Works: A Personal Memoir of My Years at Lockheed Paperback – February 1, 1996
by Ben R. Rich   (Author),   Leo Janos   (Author)
Paperback: 372 pages
Publisher: Back Bay Books; 1st edition (February 1, 1996)
Language: English
ISBN-10: 0316743003
ISBN-13: 978-0316743006


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Re: Secrets of the Skunk Works
« Reply #10 on: 04/05/2019 09:49 am »
bump for the SR71 and A-12 video from Scott Manely,

Faster, Higher And More Secret Than The SR-71 Blackbird - The A-12 Oxcart


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Published on Apr 4, 2019

At Palmdale Airport they have a display of a SR-71 and an A-12 next to each other, as well as a D-21 Drone and a U-2. This is the only place I know that has both aircraft next to each other, making the small differences much more obvious. The A-12 predates the SR-71 and wasn't made public until 1981, long after it stopped flying.

* Actual speeds and flight ceiling are classified, so, maybe the SR-71 can go higher and faster but they can't tell us.





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Re: Secrets of the Skunk Works
« Reply #11 on: 04/05/2019 02:29 pm »

Scott Manley
Published on Apr 4, 2019

At Palmdale Airport they have a display of a SR-71 and an A-12 next to each other, as well as a D-21 Drone and a U-2. This is the only place I know that has both aircraft next to each other, making the small differences much more obvious. The A-12 predates the SR-71 and wasn't made public until 1981, long after it stopped flying.

* Actual speeds and flight ceiling are classified, so, maybe the SR-71 can go higher and faster but they can't tell us.



A-12 outperformed the SR-71

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Re: Secrets of the Skunk Works
« Reply #12 on: 04/05/2019 10:41 pm »
I found a free E-book of Ben Rich's book on the web a couple of week ago.   Sorry, don't recall exactly where. 

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Re: Secrets of the Skunk Works
« Reply #13 on: 04/05/2019 10:59 pm »
A-12 outperformed the SR-71
Prettier too.

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Re: Secrets of the Skunk Works
« Reply #14 on: 03/19/2023 03:07 pm »
Thanks. I've ordered this issue so I'll fill in more later when I receive it. Apparently there's a design in there for a Mach 25 spaceplane which sounds interesting.
The Mach 25 spaceplane designs from Lockheed mentioned in the Air and Space magazine article about the Lockheed Skunk Works were envisaged to response to the USAF's Aerospaceplane program for a single-stage-to-orbit spaceplane, and the CL-510 company designation was applied to the Lockheed Aerospace design studies. Info about the Lockheed CL-510 can be found in one of the articles in Aerospace Projects Review:
https://www.aerospaceprojectsreview.com/ev2n5.htm

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Re: Secrets of the Skunk Works
« Reply #15 on: 03/20/2023 12:04 pm »
A-12 outperformed the SR-71
Prettier too.

Smaller, sleeker, faster (sounds like that Daft Punk old hit - faster better stronger).

 

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