Author Topic: Energia-M still at Baikonur test stand? (Read 19760 times)

lucspace · « **on:** 09/19/2011 09:46 am »

This seems to be a photo story made in 2010: http://alware.livejournal.com/79917.html...

Nicolas PILLET · « **Reply #1 on:** 09/19/2011 10:27 am »

Waooww !! This is the most wonderful Baikonur photo report I've ever seen !! Thanks !

Dmitry_V_home · « **Reply #2 on:** 09/19/2011 10:37 am »

Sad show. When I was on Baikonur in 1990 all looked much better

Nathan · « **Reply #3 on:** 09/19/2011 11:37 am »

That's extraordinary. I always wondered whatvhappened to that and never dreamed it would still be standing in the same spot!

HIPAR · « **Reply #4 on:** 09/19/2011 12:19 pm »

I'm thinking about the human effort that went for naught.

--- CHAS

Blackstar · « **Reply #5 on:** 09/19/2011 12:38 pm »

A few years ago I was thinking about a trip out there and told a friend of mine that I wanted to visit all the obscure abandoned places. He works for NASA and had been out there on business a number of times. He gave me a really wary look, saying that a lot of those sites have toxic materials all over the place, including standing pools of water contaminated with really dangerous chemicals. He made it sound rather scary. I still want to go, however.

mduncan36 · « **Reply #6 on:** 09/19/2011 01:08 pm »

The company I work for sent executives to Khazakstan a few years ago to look at some facilities that were available for purchase. They too had been abandoned as though nobody even bothered to turn off the machinery or lock the doors. The photos they returned looked a lot like these. Hazardous waste and ruined junk was everywhere and it would have cost a fortune just to clean things up. The locals were asked questions about what happened and the general response was "not my problem" so they had just walked away. I never dreamed that such a feeling would carry all the way to the height of the Soviet space program. Incredible. Awesome photos and determined reporting though.

Blackstar · « **Reply #7 on:** 09/19/2011 01:14 pm »

Notice the photo with the guy leaning into the window? Look at how they sealed up that building--they just stuck any old junk that they could against the windows to keep people out. It just looks like they cared a little bit to seal it up, but they had absolutely no resources.

saturnsky · « **Reply #8 on:** 09/19/2011 01:14 pm »

WOW,,,,,!!!! One flight,,unmanned,,forgotten,,,what else do the Russians have that have been lost to history??

Phillip Clark · « **Reply #9 on:** 09/19/2011 04:34 pm »

I hope that the KSC facilities never fall into such disrepair due to a lack of use.

Blackstar · « **Reply #10 on:** 09/19/2011 06:32 pm »

Quote from: Jester on 09/19/2011 01:40 pm

@blackstar, I've been there for work in 2005 and 2008, its not as dangerous as your nasa contact makes it out to be, Ive visited some obscure places there and I don't glow in the dark

Maybe he was exaggerating, but he was referring to carcinogens.

Blackstar · « **Reply #11 on:** 09/19/2011 06:34 pm »

Quote from: Phillip Clark on 09/19/2011 04:34 pm

I hope that the KSC facilities never fall into such disrepair due to a lack of use.

1-The Florida heat and humidity and the salt air is merciless. Abandon a building or a facility at the Cape for a short time and it's useless. The policy down there tends to be that they either preserve a facility or they raze it.

2-Look up OSHA.

Skylab · « **Reply #12 on:** 09/19/2011 08:46 pm »

Quote from: saturnsky on 09/19/2011 01:14 pm

WOW,,,,,!!!! One flight,,unmanned,,forgotten,,,what else do the Russians have that have been lost to history??

One flight? Energia-M had zero, the 'regular' Energia had two (Polyus and Buran).

Targeteer · « **Reply #13 on:** 09/19/2011 09:10 pm »

Quote from: Jester on 09/19/2011 01:40 pm

@blackstar, I've been there for work in 2005 and 2008, its not as dangerous as your nasa contact makes it out to be, Ive visited some obscure places there and I don't glow in the dark

P.S.
Funny, I happen to know the redhead in the picture....

I'm a space geek and the hardware pictures are great but about that redhead...

savuporo · « **Reply #14 on:** 09/19/2011 11:47 pm »

Quote from: saturnsky on 09/19/2011 01:14 pm

WOW,,,,,!!!! One flight,,unmanned,,forgotten,,,what else do the Russians have that have been lost to history??

Wrong, the rocket flew twice.

Patchouli · « **Reply #15 on:** 09/19/2011 11:54 pm »

Wha I never knew that the Energia-M even got past the design stage.
Makes the loss of the system seem all the more tragic.

manboy · « **Reply #16 on:** 09/19/2011 11:57 pm »

Quote from: lucspace on 09/19/2011 09:46 am

This seems to be a photo story made in 2010: http://alware.livejournal.com/79917.html...

That woman must be a bit crazy to be sitting on that railing.

Quote from: Dmitry_V_home on 09/19/2011 10:37 am

Sad show. When I was on Baikonur in 1990 all looked much better

Did you take any pictures?

Dmitry_V_home · « **Reply #17 on:** 10/22/2011 02:01 pm »

Quote from: manboy on 09/19/2011 11:57 pm

Did you take any pictures?

No. :-(
When I was on Bajkonuure, the mock-up "Energia-M" was just produced.It was forbidden to photograph/
It is possible to look at some photos here:http://buran.ru/htm/gubanov3.htm

grdja · « **Reply #18 on:** 10/24/2011 02:31 pm »

Wait wait. Is that -M just a mockup or a real test article?

Lars_J · « **Reply #19 on:** 10/24/2011 04:59 pm »

Looks like a mockup to me... At least the core.