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Dedicated thread to replace the hodgepodge of other threads in 2 sections. Mods please consolidate all related posts into this dedicated thread.
« Last Edit: 11/28/2018 09:59 am by eeergo »

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Re: KARI: KSLV-II Development Updates and Discussion Thread
« Reply #1 on: 06/29/2018 07:16 pm »
KARI KSLV-II TLV testing:
[KARI]한국형발사체 시험발사체 연구개발 현장을 가다!

한국항공우주연구원(KARI)
Published on 27 Mar 2018
한국형발사체 시험발사체 연구개발 현장을 가다!

발사체체계개발단장으로부터 듣는 시험발사체 이야기를 영상으로 확인하세요.


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Re: KARI: KSLV-II Development Updates and Discussion Thread
« Reply #2 on: 06/30/2018 03:06 am »
Bing Translation.

[KARI] A research and development site for the Korean projectile test projectile!

Korea Aerospace Research Institute (KARI)
Published on 27 Mar 2018
A research and development site for the Korean projectile test projectile!

See the story of the test projectile from the head of the projectile system development.
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Re: KARI: KSLV-II Development Updates and Discussion Thread
« Reply #3 on: 07/16/2018 08:31 am »
Machine translation is always hilarious. Since we have a nice new thread, I'll note some details on what we're seeing here.

"한국형발사체" translates to "Korean Standard Launch Vehicle", which is another way of saying Korean Space Launch Vehicle II or KSLV-II. It's the "Indigenous Standard" version of the launch vehicle because the first version, KSLV-I actually used the Russian first stage and thus not fully indigenous.

"시험발사체" is the "Test Launch Vehicle" for the KSLV-II. This one is created to test the operational characteristics of the newly developed KARI 75-Ton Engine (I'll call it KARI-75), which has not yet been used in a space launch operation as of yet. The success of this test vehicle should instill confidence in building and flying the "real" KSLV-II.

The KSLV-II TLV is effectively a single stage and uses one KARI-75. Originally, it was to be two stages - stage 1 with one KARI-75 and stage 2 with one KARI-7. But the second stage of the current TLV has no engine, but just a mass simulator.

In contrast, KSLV-II will be a three-stage rocket. Stage 1 with four KARI-75 in cluster, stage 2 with one KARI-75, and stage 3 with one KARI-7.

There are to be three models of TLV: Engineering Model (EM), Qualification Model (QM), and Flight Model (FM). Building and testing of both EM and QM were successful, with the latter subject to the firing tests on the test stand as seen on the video linked in the earlier post. Currently, the FM is under construction and this is the one that will be launched for real on October 2018.

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Re: KARI: KSLV-II Development Updates and Discussion Thread
« Reply #4 on: 08/16/2018 10:46 am »
KSLV-II launch planned for October 2018
https://www.jqknews.com/news/57216-South_Korea_plans_to_launch_a_new_launch_vehicle_in_October_after_Lo_Lao_3_hit_2.html
a mock-up was transported and raised on the launch pad

article in Korean https://news.joins.com/article/22888613

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Re: KARI: KSLV-II Development Updates and Discussion Thread
« Reply #5 on: 09/14/2018 12:06 pm »
 Time-lapse of QM vehicle assembly;

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Re: KARI: KSLV-II Development Updates and Discussion Thread
« Reply #6 on: 10/18/2018 09:28 am »
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S. Korea Starts Drawing up Plans for Next-generation Satellite Launch Vehicles

With testing of the engine for Korea Space Launch Vehicle-II (KSLV-II) slated for late this month, the South Korean government has begun to draw up plans to develop a next-generation satellite launch vehicle that will succeed KSLV-II.

The government is going to develop an improved and lighter version of KSLV-II, while at the same time developing another version which is smaller and cheaper than KSLV-II.

http://www.businesskorea.co.kr/news/articleView.html?idxno=25542

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Re: KARI: KSLV-II Development Updates and Discussion Thread
« Reply #7 on: 10/21/2018 06:54 pm »
The article above is based on this paper: http://www.itfind.or.kr/publication/regular/periodical/read.do?selectedId=02-001-181010-000014 by KISTEP and the information on Korea's space plans are referenced mainly from this policy paper: https://msit.go.kr/web/msipContents/contentsView.do?cateId=mssw311&artId=1374583 by the Ministry of ICT and Technology.

Basically what it means is that KSLV-2 will be improved (lighter weight, improved engine performance, ect)  and commercialised (the launch and marketing of the KSLV-2 will be transferred from the Korean NASA to an actual company. The government will probably create a comercial launch provider entity or maybe private companies will bid and the government transfer the KSLV-2 over to them) by 2025 and afterwards a small-sat launcher will be made which will basically be the KSLV-2 TLV with the final 7ton engine and stage included. There are then future plans for a EELV-class launcher but that's too far in the future, just think of it as a vague ambition.

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Re: KARI: KSLV-II Development Updates and Discussion Thread
« Reply #8 on: 11/13/2018 07:21 am »
Google translate of the news release
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Nuri test launch vehicle , launching on Nov. 28 
- The final launch date should be confirmed after considering the weather conditions.

□ The Ministry of Science and Technology (Ministry of Information and Communication) and the Korea Aerospace Research Institute (President Lim Cheol-ho, hereinafter referred to as "Woo-yun Lee") will hold the "3rd test launch project management committee" on November 13, Test launch vehicle.

  o The launch date has been determined in consideration of the technical preparation status of the development team and the schedule for overseas notification.

  o The final launch date and launch time will be determined at the close of the launch date due to future weather conditions, but if there is no problem with the preparation process, it will be carried out on the afternoon of November 28th. Also, considering the schedule change due to future climate conditions, the launch date will be set from Nov. 29 to Dec. 4.

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Re: KARI: KSLV-II Development Updates and Discussion Thread
« Reply #9 on: 11/13/2018 11:19 pm »
This is more for the future but still interesting:
http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/news/2018/11/12/0200000000AEN20181112008151315.html

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SEOUL, Nov. 12 (Yonhap) -- South Korea is in talks with the United States over its pursuit of developing solid-fuel space vehicles for non-military purposes, Seoul's foreign ministry said Monday.

Last year, the allies agreed to eliminate restrictions on the payload weight of South Korea's ballistic missiles in response to a series of North Korean provocations at that time. South Korea is allowed to develop ballistic missiles with a range of up to 800 kilometers.

"Currently, consultations are under way between South Korea and the U.S. in connection with lifting limits on the use of solid fuel for space vehicles to strengthen space development in the civilian sector," the Ministry of Foreign Affairs said.

It did not provide more details, citing ongoing state-to-state negotiations on the sensitive matter....

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Re: KARI: KSLV-II Development Updates and Discussion Thread
« Reply #10 on: 11/27/2018 07:24 am »
Test launch is go for tomorrow (Nov. 28).

Source: https://twitter.com/kari2030/status/1067317171280318464
bit.ly/SpaceLaunchCalendar ☆ bit.ly/SpaceEventCalendar

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Re: KARI: KSLV-II Development Updates and Discussion Thread
« Reply #11 on: 11/27/2018 05:32 pm »
Is the first stage of this test vehicle essentially the second stage of the planned KSLV-II?  Or is it merely the same 2.6 meter diameter as the second stage?

 - Ed Kyle
« Last Edit: 11/27/2018 05:38 pm by edkyle99 »

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Re: KARI: KSLV-II Development Updates and Discussion Thread
« Reply #12 on: 11/27/2018 05:36 pm »
Is the first stage of this test vehicle essentially the second stage of the planned KSLV-II?  Or is it merely the same 2.6 meter diameter as the second stage?

 - Ed Kyle
Second stage yes, but AFAIU with modifications to work with the KSLV-1 launch mount which will be replaced after TLV test flight(s) are done.
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Re: KARI: KSLV-II Development Updates and Discussion Thread
« Reply #13 on: 11/27/2018 09:40 pm »
Here's an image that was posted on 13 November.

twitter.com/kari2030/status/1062254241513795584
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Re: KARI: KSLV-II Development Updates and Discussion Thread
« Reply #14 on: 11/27/2018 09:56 pm »
Video posted two says ago with interviews and construction of TLV.

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Is the first stage of this test vehicle essentially the second stage of the planned KSLV-II?  Or is it merely the same 2.6 meter diameter as the second stage?

 - Ed Kyle

IIRC it uses the same structure as the planned KSLV-II 2nd stage but uses only a single engine: https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=38220.20
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Re: KARI: KSLV-II Development Updates and Discussion Thread
« Reply #17 on: 11/28/2018 01:34 am »
Found the NOTAM! Go to http://aim.koca.go.kr/xNotam/?language=ko_KR and search for UNL. The second NOTAM is from 06:30 to 09:40 UTC today.

GG RKZZNAXX
140851 RKRRYNYX
(D8069/18 NOTAMN
Q)RKRR/QRPCA/IV/NBO/W/000/999/3426N12732E006
A)RKRR B)1811262300 C)1811280630
E)DUE TO TEST LAUNCH VEHICLE(TLV-NURI) ROCKET LAUNCH FM NARO SPACE
CENTER TEMPO PROHIBITED AREA WILL BE ESTABLISHED AS FLW :
A CIRCLE RADIUS 5NM CENTERED ON 342555N1273209E
- RMK : EXC SAR, MEDIVAC, EMG FLT
F)SFC G)UNL)

GG RKZZNAXX
140850 RKRRYNYX
(D8068/18 NOTAMN
Q)RKRR/QRPCA/IV/NBO/W/000/999/3408N12731E030
A)RKRR B)1811280630 C)1811280940
E)DUE TO TEST LAUNCH VEHICLE(TLV-NURI) ROCKET LAUNCH FM NARO SPACE
CENTER
TEMPO PROHIBITED AREA WILL BE ESTABLISHED AS FLW:
AREA BOUNDED BY THE FOLLOWING
343018N1272436E-343210N1273729E-342651N1273836E-341927N1274743E-
334726N1275259E-334410N1272442E-341618N1271915E-342458N1272545E
TO THE BEGINNING
- RMK : EXC SAR, MEDIVAC, EMG FLT
F)SFC G)UNL)
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Re: KARI: KSLV-II Development Updates and Discussion Thread
« Reply #18 on: 11/28/2018 05:16 am »
Vehicle is fuelled up. Launch is at 07:00 UTC.

twitter.com/kari2030/status/1067660896783130624

"The test projectile will be launched today at 4:00 p.m. Thank you very much for your support."
« Last Edit: 11/28/2018 05:17 am by Steven Pietrobon »
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Re: KARI: KSLV-II Development Updates and Discussion Thread
« Reply #19 on: 11/28/2018 05:21 am »
Rollout video.

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