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Shijian 18 was on the second CZ-5 mission and the Chinese have said that the third CZ-5 will carry Shijian 20.

Have the Chinese said anything about Shijian 19?
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Shijian 18 was on the second CZ-5 mission and the Chinese have said that the third CZ-5 will carry Shijian 20.

Have the Chinese said anything about Shijian 19?

I believe they stopped mentioning Shijian 19 after the news came out that Shijian 20 would be launched on the third Long March 5.

So, my assumption on that satellite is that it's being put into storage until a future launch.
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Well we are now made known of the existence of Shijian 19......through a press release stating that CASC has recently completed "drop tests of a full scale model of its return capsule" (!).

I have no idea if this thingy is related to the next generation Chinese human spacecraft, or some new science mission using new "film-return satellites", or.....something else.  :-X
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CGWIC offers flight opportunities with the Space Workshop for international customers (http://www.cgwic.com/Application/space.html)
So this is next-generation series of FSW recoverable spacecraft family known as FSW-5.
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CGWIC offers flight opportunities with the Space Workshop for international customers (http://www.cgwic.com/Application/space.html)
So this is next-generation series of FSW recoverable spacecraft family known as FSW-5.

Since there are two variants, maybe FSW-5 and FSW-6?
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CGWIC offers flight opportunities with the Space Workshop for international customers (http://www.cgwic.com/Application/space.html)
So this is next-generation series of FSW recoverable spacecraft family known as FSW-5.

Since there are two variants, maybe FSW-5 and FSW-6?
Apparently the military version is the baseline for the international version.

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Some more information about generation 5 recoverable spacecraft (Source: ttps://wxn.qq.com/cmsid/20181009A1YYN700). Very likely a first test flight will be made as Shijian-19, for which chinese media reported air drop tests in mid summer.
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In the above illustrations the "FSW-4" is shown as flying through to 2016.   Since the launches in the Jianbing series ended in 2005, I wonder if this is an ackowledgement that Shijian 8 and Shijian 10 were FSW-4 platforms?
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Previous information available said that SJ-19 would be launched in April 2019 as a next generation recoverable satellite.

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It seems here's another mention of new gen recoverable and reusable satellites from last December (in Russian):

https://ria.ru/20181210/1547702732.html

20 days in orbit, up to 15 times, first launch in April 2019.
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A post on 9ifly Chinese space forum is saying that the launch will take place NET late June.

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According to a post on 9ifly Chinese space forum, this mission was delayed to 2020.
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Any news regarding the status of this mission?

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Listed as a change from "?? 2021" to "November (?) 2021" launch on July 24, 2021 here.  No source given.

Listed as a change from November (?) 2021 to April 2022 launch on August 24, 2021 here.  No source given.
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Does anyone have any recent information regarding this mission?

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In the German forum the launch of Shi Jian 19 (SJ 19) is assumed for November 22.
I don't know the source.

https://forum.raumfahrer.net/index.php?topic=17927.msg555304#msg555304

The same information appears at https://www.spacetv.net/live/launch-of-cnsa-long-march-2d-with-shijian-19/ without citing any source.

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In the second half of 2024, my country will launch its first reusable returnable technology test satellite, and our company is now authorized to conduct a nationwide collection of onboard products. Carrying and returning to space can attract the attention of hundreds of millions of people and have considerable traffic value; carrying and returning to space can significantly increase the social value and market value of the carried products. Do you want your carried products to become rare and unique?

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Practical No. 19: my country's top reuse return technology test competition stars will be announced in the second half of this year

Practice 19 is my country's first reusable and recoverable technology test satellite. It is scheduled to be launched in the second half of 2024 and will return to the ground after 13.5 days of orbital flight.

In order to further implement the concept of commercial space development and actively implement the spirit of the 2024 Central Economic Work Conference on "building several strategic emerging industries such as commercial space", Practice 19 has reserved some payload resources for carrying staple food crop seeds, cash crop seeds, Chinese herbal medicine seeds, forest and flower seeds, tissue culture seedlings, plant callus, food industry microorganisms, medical microorganisms, feed microorganisms, calligraphy photos and other cultural and creative products, and carry out satellite commercial carrying activities to meet the space carrying needs of all sectors of society, stimulate the vitality of the space economy, and promote the development of the space application industry. Now we are soliciting a small amount of payload resources from the society and invite you to take this space journey together!


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Is suspect there is a typo in the name Shiyan-19? A satellite with this name has already been launched in March 2023 on a CZ-11.

The description of a reusable and recoverable satellite matches the long overdue Shijian 19.

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Is suspect there is a typo in the name Shiyan-19? A satellite with this name has already been launched in March 2023 on a CZ-11.

The description of a reusable and recoverable satellite matches the long overdue Shijian 19.

It is, indeed, Shijian 19 which was mentioned in the link above. I've changed the thread title.
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I thought this satellite had been canceled before,now his is back

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Is suspect there is a typo in the name Shiyan-19? A satellite with this name has already been launched in March 2023 on a CZ-11.

The description of a reusable and recoverable satellite matches the long overdue Shijian 19.
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it is said this will be The long-standing legend of Shijian-19 (实践十九号).

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Possibly launching on September 27?

https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=61535.0

...or not.

According to Igor Lissov, at the NK forum, the areas presented on that thread were last used to launch Yaogan-37.
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Possibly launching on September 27?

https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=61535.0

...or not.

According to Igor Lissov, at the NK forum, the areas presented on that thread were last used to launch Yaogan-37.
I think so!

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Launched!

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Some old design specifications for what apparently become SJ-19 can be found here: https://www.cast.cn/3g/english/channel/wid/2019
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Odd that they added a fairing before launch; I thought earlier models like SJ-10 flew with no fairing (like Dragon/F9)
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Phil Clark would love to see this launch taken place...

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Odd that they added a fairing before launch; I thought earlier models like SJ-10 flew with no fairing (like Dragon/F9)
Maybe the spacecraft has deployable solar panels, like those shown in one of the illustrations.

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CelesTrak has GP data for 2 objects from the launch (2024-177) of Shijian-19 atop a Long March-2D rocket from Jiuquan Satellite Launch Center on Sep 27 at 1030 UTC: english.news.cn/20240927/ec5d5…. Data for the launch can be found at: https://celestrak.org/NORAD/elements/table.php?INTDES=2024-177.

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Maybe the spacecraft has deployable solar panels, like those shown in one of the illustrations.

The animation doesn't seem to shown any solar panels.
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In July 2018, the full-scale airdrop test of the Shijian-19 satellite of the 508th Institute of the Fifth Academy of China Aerospace Science and Technology Corporation was successfully completed. The test was carried out for 2 sorties and all the measurement data proposed in the technical requirements were obtained, which fully verified the design of the key links and working procedures of the recovery system, such as the ejection of the deceleration parachute, the connection and separation of the deceleration parachute, the main parachute exiting the cabin, the main parachute opening, the front end separation, the airbag inflation and the cushioning parachute release.

Then CZ-2D Y43, was lauched on September 25, 2019 from Jiuquan, base on those reasons, I guess the number Y42.
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Maybe the spacecraft has deployable solar panels, like those shown in one of the illustrations.

The animation doesn't seem to shown any solar panels.

It looks like the short-duration version without solar panels. But still the cylindrical section seems to have some protrusions, which are not compatible with an unshrouded launch.

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In July 2018, the full-scale airdrop test of the Shijian-19 satellite of the 508th Institute of the Fifth Academy of China Aerospace Science and Technology Corporation was successfully completed. The test was carried out for 2 sorties and all the measurement data proposed in the technical requirements were obtained, which fully verified the design of the key links and working procedures of the recovery system, such as the ejection of the deceleration parachute, the connection and separation of the deceleration parachute, the main parachute exiting the cabin, the main parachute opening, the front end separation, the airbag inflation and the cushioning parachute release.

Then CZ-2D Y43, was lauched on September 25, 2019 from Jiuquan, base on those reasons, I guess the number Y42.
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Inclination 41.4°, similar to Shenzhou.
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"The launch weight of Shijian No. 19 is no more than 3550kg, and it operates in a circular orbit with an inclination of 43° and an altitude of 336 kilometers. It carries out flight test missions such as aerospace breeding, independent and controllable new technology verification, and space science experiments. After flying in orbit for about 13.5 days, it returned to Dongfeng Landing Field. The No. 19 recovery capsule is designed to be reused no less than 10 times, and the landing impact of the recovery capsule is less than 15g."
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"The launch weight of Shijian No. 19 is no more than 3550kg, and it operates in a circular orbit with an inclination of 43° and an altitude of 336 kilometers. It carries out flight test missions such as aerospace breeding, independent and controllable new technology verification, and space science experiments. After flying in orbit for about 13.5 days, it returned to Dongfeng Landing Field. The No. 19 recovery capsule is designed to be reused no less than 10 times, and the landing impact of the recovery capsule is less than 15g."

So reentry & landing is around Oct. 10/11.
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Successful Recovery of the Shijian-19 Satellite

At 10:39 AM Beijing time today, China successfully recovered its first reusable returnable technology experiment satellite, the Shijian-19, at the Dongfeng landing site. The recovered payloads include plant and microbial breeding loads, autonomous control and new technology verification loads, space science experiment loads, and public welfare and cultural innovation loads, all of which have been successfully retrieved.

The Shijian-19 satellite is an important new technology experiment satellite during China's 14th Five-Year Plan period. It was launched on September 27 from the Jiuquan Satellite Launch Center. Through flight tests, it has made breakthroughs in key technologies such as reusability, non-destructive recovery, and high microgravity assurance. The satellite successfully verified the technical indicators of a new generation of high-performance reusable returnable space experiment platforms, achieving the expected experimental results.


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my country successfully recovered its first reusable returnable technology test satellite

The reporter learned from the National Space Administration that at 10:39 on October 11, my country successfully recovered the first reusable and recoverable technology test satellite, the Shijian-19 satellite, at the Dongfeng landing site. The plant and microbial breeding payloads, autonomous control and new technology verification test payloads, space science experiment payloads, social welfare and cultural creativity payloads and other recovery payloads have all been successfully recovered.

Shijian-19 satellite is an important new technology test satellite during my country's "14th Five-Year Plan" period. It was launched at the Jiuquan Satellite Launch Center on September 27. Through flight tests, it has made breakthroughs in key technologies such as reusability, non-destructive recovery, and high microgravity guarantee, and verified the technical indicators of the new generation of high-performance reusable and recoverable space test platforms, achieving various expected test results.

Shijian-19 satellite has the characteristics of high microgravity level, good timeliness, and strong downlink capability. It is an efficient high-microgravity space test platform that can support research in microgravity science and space life science. This flight mission carried out space breeding, new technology verification and space science experiments, and focused on promoting the development and application of new space technologies. At the same time, it carried multiple international cooperation payloads, becoming a good platform for promoting international space cooperation, which is of great significance to promoting the exploration and utilization of space.
The Shijian-19 returned to Dongfeng landing spot on October 11 (02:39 UTC).

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卫星搭载X频段数传载荷,使用长征二号丁遥四十四运载火箭发射升空。
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Shijian-19 carried an expandable module for technology verification, the maker CAST has revealed. Its interest in such modules had been known, but this is the first test in orbit. mp.weixin.qq.com/s/exwqb4SbyWSj…

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