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Re: Fairing reuse
« Reply #1680 on: 06/06/2018 03:28 am »
Just make bigger arms. Steel is cheap, and SpaceX has good welders.
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Re: Fairing reuse
« Reply #1681 on: 06/06/2018 06:10 pm »
https://twitter.com/ang3lwtf/status/1003852615052980224

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@elonmusk I may not be an engineer but why not make Mr.Steven's arms wider so it can have a bigger net? It's finally time to catch some fairings. 😏😏

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1003916871693791232

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Yup, we are extending the net area by a factor of 4

This and the following discussion about how it may be implemented fits better in the Mr. Steven Thread (SpaceX facilities and fleets section) where it is also being discussed.

https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=45083.0
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Re: Fairing reuse
« Reply #1682 on: 06/06/2018 08:47 pm »
Holy moly, 4 fairing halves spied in Port L.A!

Teslarati article- https://www.teslarati.com/spacex-bfr-factory-four-falcon-9-fairing-halves-spied/
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Re: Fairing reuse
« Reply #1683 on: 06/06/2018 09:18 pm »
Teslarati article- https://www.teslarati.com/spacex-bfr-factory-four-falcon-9-fairing-halves-spied/

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In an unexpected turn of events, Teslarati photographer Pauline Acalin came across a remarkable scene in Port of Los Angeles – four flight-proven Falcon 9 fairing halves temporarily stored on a plot of land soon to become SpaceX’s dedicated BFR factory.
While it’s difficult to guess exactly which fairing half is which, it appears that the halves from PAZ, Iridium-5, and Iridium-6 are present and accounted for.

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Re: Fairing reuse
« Reply #1684 on: 06/07/2018 06:32 am »
Holy moly, 4 fairing halves spied in Port L.A!

Teslarati article- https://www.teslarati.com/spacex-bfr-factory-four-falcon-9-fairing-halves-spied/

Man that place looks disgusting! I hope the fairings dont catch any of that infectious rust and decomposition of the buildings.

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Re: Fairing reuse
« Reply #1685 on: 06/07/2018 07:06 am »
Holy moly, 4 fairing halves spied in Port L.A!

Teslarati article- https://www.teslarati.com/spacex-bfr-factory-four-falcon-9-fairing-halves-spied/

Man that place looks disgusting! I hope the fairings dont catch any of that infectious rust and decomposition of the buildings.

Why not? The fairings are going to be scrapped anyway. Just like the buildings.

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Re: Fairing reuse
« Reply #1686 on: 06/07/2018 08:01 am »
Holy moly, 4 fairing halves spied in Port L.A!

Teslarati article- https://www.teslarati.com/spacex-bfr-factory-four-falcon-9-fairing-halves-spied/

Man that place looks disgusting! I hope the fairings dont catch any of that infectious rust and decomposition of the buildings.

Why not? The fairings are going to be scrapped anyway. Just like the buildings.

If they are scrapped, why keep them in the first place?

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Re: Fairing reuse
« Reply #1687 on: 06/07/2018 08:29 am »
Holy moly, 4 fairing halves spied in Port L.A!

Teslarati article- https://www.teslarati.com/spacex-bfr-factory-four-falcon-9-fairing-halves-spied/

Man that place looks disgusting! I hope the fairings dont catch any of that infectious rust and decomposition of the buildings.

Why not? The fairings are going to be scrapped anyway. Just like the buildings.

If they are scrapped, why keep them in the first place?

Sell them to a collector or somebody who wants an unusual swimming pool?
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Re: Fairing reuse
« Reply #1688 on: 06/07/2018 09:36 am »
Holy moly, 4 fairing halves spied in Port L.A!

Teslarati article- https://www.teslarati.com/spacex-bfr-factory-four-falcon-9-fairing-halves-spied/

Man that place looks disgusting! I hope the fairings dont catch any of that infectious rust and decomposition of the buildings.

Why not? The fairings are going to be scrapped anyway. Just like the buildings.

If they are scrapped, why keep them in the first place?

They may be used for drop testing?

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Re: Fairing reuse
« Reply #1689 on: 06/07/2018 11:35 am »
If they are scrapped, why keep them in the first place?

Because they can't just throw away hardware due to ITAR? Also SpaceX is kind of a packrat, they keep a lot of junk around, including old Falcon 1 tank.

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Re: Fairing reuse
« Reply #1690 on: 06/07/2018 12:19 pm »
Holy moly, 4 fairing halves spied in Port L.A!

Teslarati article- https://www.teslarati.com/spacex-bfr-factory-four-falcon-9-fairing-halves-spied/

Man that place looks disgusting! I hope the fairings dont catch any of that infectious rust and decomposition of the buildings.

Why not? The fairings are going to be scrapped anyway. Just like the buildings.

If they are scrapped, why keep them in the first place?

Temporary storage until shipping for scrapping.

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Re: Fairing reuse
« Reply #1691 on: 06/07/2018 05:38 pm »
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Just like the buildings
5 out of 6 of the buildings are protected historic buildings.  .... I haven't checked if that one is the one the fairings are under/in front of.

SX could roll out amazing momentous, bar furniture etc with used bits of rockets... They could grace SX customer foyers.
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Re: Fairing reuse
« Reply #1692 on: 06/07/2018 07:33 pm »
Build a tiny house with one...
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Re: Fairing reuse
« Reply #1693 on: 06/07/2018 07:58 pm »
Build a tiny house with one...

Not that tiny.  I’ve measured, 1 fairing half is about the size of my apartment.

Hanging onto things is cheap and easy if you have available space. Just ask any farmer. 
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Re: Fairing reuse
« Reply #1694 on: 06/07/2018 08:19 pm »
Paint them green and stick them upside down under bridges for homeless shelters, then take the tax deduction!
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Re: Fairing reuse
« Reply #1695 on: 06/07/2018 10:16 pm »
Hanging onto things is cheap and easy if you have available space. Just ask any farmer. 

And if so, they should probably hang on to them - you never know when they might unexpectedly come in useful. Most of us have had that feeling when you've got rid of something (or deleted it) and then suddenly found a use for it!

Or perhaps they're running tests on long-term weathering or other ageing? After all, fairings up to now have been used once shortly after manufacture, but if you're going to re-use them they might be around for years!

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Re: Fairing reuse
« Reply #1696 on: 06/07/2018 10:37 pm »
So what’s the next step after they successfully capture one?

How do they extend the process to getting them both?

Program one to loiter around going in circles more while they catch the first, then very rapidly lower it to the deck and shove it forward off the net while the ship is repositioning at full speed to catch the second one? That would look pretty dramatic.
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Re: Fairing reuse
« Reply #1697 on: 06/07/2018 10:39 pm »
So what’s the next step after they successfully capture one?

How do they extend the process to getting them both?

Program one to loiter around going in circles more while they catch the first, then very rapidly lower it to the deck and shove it forward while the ship is repositioning to catch the second one? That would look pretty dramatic.

I’ve always assumed a second boat.
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Re: Fairing reuse
« Reply #1698 on: 06/07/2018 10:40 pm »
So what’s the next step after they successfully capture one?

How do they extend the process to getting them both?

Program one to loiter around going in circles more while they catch the first, then very rapidly lower it to the deck and shove it forward while the ship is repositioning to catch the second one? That would look pretty dramatic.

Hire a 2nd, 3rd, and 4th boat on long term leases and complete you fleet on both coasts...  ;)

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Re: Fairing reuse
« Reply #1699 on: 06/07/2018 10:46 pm »
So what’s the next step after they successfully capture one?

How do they extend the process to getting them both?

Program one to loiter around going in circles more while they catch the first, then very rapidly lower it to the deck and shove it forward while the ship is repositioning to catch the second one? That would look pretty dramatic.

I’ve always assumed a second boat.

That’s cheating.

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