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Re: XJS-G & H - CZ-11 - XSLC - May 29, 2020 (20:13 UTC)
« Reply #20 on: 05/29/2020 08:47 pm »
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Re: XJS-G & H - CZ-11 - XSLC - May 29, 2020 (20:13 UTC)
« Reply #22 on: 05/29/2020 08:53 pm »
Different satellites on board than originally reported:

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Re: XJS-G & H - CZ-11 - XSLC - May 29, 2020 (20:13 UTC)
« Reply #23 on: 05/29/2020 09:06 pm »
Maybe the mission is Chuangxin-06 (1)... or not.

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Re: XJS-G & H - CZ-11 - XSLC - May 29, 2020 (20:13 UTC)
« Reply #25 on: 05/29/2020 09:47 pm »
Some pictures of the launch campaign.
The two satellites were arranged one above the other. The CZ-11 uses a brand new fairing (2m diamater), a new launch pad on this flight, which is designed to be faster and simpler. A CZ-11A version is scheduled to fly in 2022.

From: http://www.9ifly.cn/thread-93032-7-1.html
« Last Edit: 05/29/2020 09:48 pm by Closer to Space »

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Re: XJS-G & H - CZ-11 - XSLC - May 29, 2020 (20:13 UTC)
« Reply #26 on: 05/29/2020 09:57 pm »
Some pictures of the launch campaign.
The two satellites were arranged one above the other. The CZ-11 uses a brand new fairing (2m diamater), a new launch pad on this flight, which is designed to be faster and simpler. A CZ-11A version is scheduled to fly in 2022.

From: http://www.9ifly.cn/thread-93032-7-1.html

I think we just saw the first ever rail-mobile satellite launcher to fly - it really seems that the tube is fixed to train carriages as seen here and possibly launched a la rail-mobile ICBMs....  ::)
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Re: XJS-G & H - CZ-11 - XSLC - May 29, 2020 (20:13 UTC)
« Reply #27 on: 05/29/2020 10:00 pm »
Looks like XJS-G is Chuangxin-6 (01).

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Re: XJS-G & H - CZ-11 - XSLC - May 29, 2020 (20:13 UTC)
« Reply #28 on: 05/29/2020 10:02 pm »
Some others pictures.

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"China Launch Vehicle Technology Research Institute The Yao-8 carrier rocket of the Long March 11 placed two new technology test satellites into the planned orbit at the Xichang Satellite Launch Center, and the launch was a complete success. This is the first time that the Long March 11 solid rocket has been launched at the Xichang Satellite Launch Center.

Long March 11 is the only solid launcher in the Long March series of launchers that can be launched both at sea and on land. The rocket has an overall length of almost 21 meters, weighs 58 tons and has a take-off thrust of 120 tons. It is compatible with two fairings of 2 metres and 1.6 metres and can send a 500 kg payload into a 500 km synchronous solar orbit.

Deputy Commander Jin Xin presented that with this launch, the Changzheng No. 11 Yaoba rocket created the "three new": the first launch at the new launch site, the Xichang Satellite Launch Center, the first use of a new 2-meter fairing and the first use of a new launch The platform launches.

01 New launch site

After the ground launch from the Jiuquan Satellite Launch Center and the sea launch from Haiyang, Shandong, this is the first time the Long March 11 rocket is launched at the Xichang Satellite Launch Center. The latitude, altitude, weather conditions and other natural environments of the new launch site are significantly different from those of the previous launch site, fully verifying the launcher's strong environmental adaptability. As a follow-up, the Long March 11 launcher will also perform launch missions to other launch sites, continue to improve the launch capability of the entire land and sea area and make the rocket launch site more adaptable.

02 New status

This launch uses for the first time a 2-metre diameter fairing, giving the satellites more space to use, better meeting the needs of multi-satellite launches and better adapted to rocket missions. The two satellites launched this time are arranged in series. For the first time, an internal support structure is designed on the solid launcher, isolating the fairing from the "loft structure", which can provide a good "living environment" for the satellites.


03 New launch pad

For the first time, the Yaoba Long March 11 rocket uses a new, highly integrated and highly intelligent information-based launch platform with independent launch capabilities, further reducing launch site requirements. The launch point can be selected flexibly, which greatly improves the adaptability to the Earth's launch orbit and enhances the safety of the rocket landing area. The use of an intelligent test system has considerably shortened the launch preparation time, and the rapid launch capability and runway adaptability have reached a higher level.

To date, the Long March 11 launcher has achieved a total of 9 consecutive successes, 9 consecutive high-precision orbits, 9 consecutive arrows with zero-quality problems and 9 consecutive zero-window launches on time, sending dozens of small satellites into total The programmed orbit fully demonstrates the rocket's excellent high reliability, mission adaptability and diversified launch capabilities.

It is understood that in the second half of this year, the Long 11 March launcher will also carry out multiple launch missions at land and sea launch sites. At the same time, the solid Long March 11A launcher with greater payload capacity will also be fully developed."

Also from http://www.9ifly.cn/thread-93032-7-1.html

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Re: XJS-G & H - CZ-11 - XSLC - May 29, 2020 (20:13 UTC)
« Reply #29 on: 05/29/2020 10:34 pm »
Some pictures of the launch campaign.
The two satellites were arranged one above the other. The CZ-11 uses a brand new fairing (2m diamater), a new launch pad on this flight, which is designed to be faster and simpler. A CZ-11A version is scheduled to fly in 2022.

From: http://www.9ifly.cn/thread-93032-7-1.html

I think we just saw the first ever rail-mobile satellite launcher to fly - it really seems that the tube is fixed to train carriages as seen here and possibly launched a la rail-mobile ICBMs....  ::)

I think that is a stretch. It looks like the orange crane structure is lifting the rocket off the train in preparation for it to be placed on the pad and launched. If so, not different from the R-7/Soyuz which is delivered to the pad on a train
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Re: XJS-G & H - CZ-11 - XSLC - May 29, 2020 (20:13 UTC)
« Reply #30 on: 05/29/2020 11:39 pm »
Some others pictures.

Quote
"China Launch Vehicle Technology Research Institute The Yao-8 carrier rocket of the Long March 11 placed two new technology test satellites into the planned orbit at the Xichang Satellite Launch Center, and the launch was a complete success. This is the first time that the Long March 11 solid rocket has been launched at the Xichang Satellite Launch Center.

Long March 11 is the only solid launcher in the Long March series of launchers that can be launched both at sea and on land. The rocket has an overall length of almost 21 meters, weighs 58 tons and has a take-off thrust of 120 tons. It is compatible with two fairings of 2 metres and 1.6 metres and can send a 500 kg payload into a 500 km synchronous solar orbit.

Deputy Commander Jin Xin presented that with this launch, the Changzheng No. 11 Yaoba rocket created the "three new": the first launch at the new launch site, the Xichang Satellite Launch Center, the first use of a new 2-meter fairing and the first use of a new launch The platform launches.

01 New launch site

After the ground launch from the Jiuquan Satellite Launch Center and the sea launch from Haiyang, Shandong, this is the first time the Long March 11 rocket is launched at the Xichang Satellite Launch Center. The latitude, altitude, weather conditions and other natural environments of the new launch site are significantly different from those of the previous launch site, fully verifying the launcher's strong environmental adaptability. As a follow-up, the Long March 11 launcher will also perform launch missions to other launch sites, continue to improve the launch capability of the entire land and sea area and make the rocket launch site more adaptable.

02 New status

This launch uses for the first time a 2-metre diameter fairing, giving the satellites more space to use, better meeting the needs of multi-satellite launches and better adapted to rocket missions. The two satellites launched this time are arranged in series. For the first time, an internal support structure is designed on the solid launcher, isolating the fairing from the "loft structure", which can provide a good "living environment" for the satellites.


03 New launch pad

For the first time, the Yaoba Long March 11 rocket uses a new, highly integrated and highly intelligent information-based launch platform with independent launch capabilities, further reducing launch site requirements. The launch point can be selected flexibly, which greatly improves the adaptability to the Earth's launch orbit and enhances the safety of the rocket landing area. The use of an intelligent test system has considerably shortened the launch preparation time, and the rapid launch capability and runway adaptability have reached a higher level.

To date, the Long March 11 launcher has achieved a total of 9 consecutive successes, 9 consecutive high-precision orbits, 9 consecutive arrows with zero-quality problems and 9 consecutive zero-window launches on time, sending dozens of small satellites into total The programmed orbit fully demonstrates the rocket's excellent high reliability, mission adaptability and diversified launch capabilities.

It is understood that in the second half of this year, the Long 11 March launcher will also carry out multiple launch missions at land and sea launch sites. At the same time, the solid Long March 11A launcher with greater payload capacity will also be fully developed."

Also from http://www.9ifly.cn/thread-93032-7-1.html
Note the other pads have fully stacked rockets

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Re: XJS-G & H - CZ-11 - XSLC - May 29, 2020 (20:13 UTC)
« Reply #31 on: 05/30/2020 12:31 am »
Some pictures of the launch campaign.
The two satellites were arranged one above the other. The CZ-11 uses a brand new fairing (2m diamater), a new launch pad on this flight, which is designed to be faster and simpler. A CZ-11A version is scheduled to fly in 2022.

From: http://www.9ifly.cn/thread-93032-7-1.html

I think we just saw the first ever rail-mobile satellite launcher to fly - it really seems that the tube is fixed to train carriages as seen here and possibly launched a la rail-mobile ICBMs....  ::)

I think that is a stretch. It looks like the orange crane structure is lifting the rocket off the train in preparation for it to be placed on the pad and launched. If so, not different from the R-7/Soyuz which is delivered to the pad on a train

On closer inspection you are correct, there's a truck on the train which wouldn't make sense for a "rail-mobile" configuration.

This flat pad looks likely to be the place of launch this time:

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Re: XJS-G & H - CZ-11 - XSLC - May 29, 2020 (20:13 UTC)
« Reply #33 on: 05/30/2020 01:30 am »
Akin's Laws of Spacecraft Design #1:  Engineering is done with numbers.  Analysis without numbers is only an opinion.

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Re: XJS-G & H - CZ-11 - XSLC - May 29, 2020 (20:13 UTC)
« Reply #34 on: 05/30/2020 01:34 am »
Akin's Laws of Spacecraft Design #1:  Engineering is done with numbers.  Analysis without numbers is only an opinion.

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Re: XJS-G & H - CZ-11 - XSLC - May 29, 2020 (20:13 UTC)
« Reply #35 on: 05/30/2020 01:35 am »
Akin's Laws of Spacecraft Design #1:  Engineering is done with numbers.  Analysis without numbers is only an opinion.

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Re: XJS-G & H - CZ-11 - XSLC - May 29, 2020 (20:13 UTC)
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Re: XJS-G & H - CZ-11 - XSLC - May 29, 2020 (20:13 UTC)
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Re: XJS-G & H - CZ-11 - XSLC - May 29, 2020 (20:13 UTC)
« Reply #38 on: 05/30/2020 04:39 am »
Launch video

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Re: XJS-G & H - CZ-11 - XSLC - May 29, 2020 (20:13 UTC)
« Reply #39 on: 05/30/2020 07:07 am »
So the launch time was 20:13:33 UTC.

I see that a “serial number” of CZ-11 was Y8. So it seems that it is not a serial number, but mission number. For example, CZ-11 had a “serial number” Y7, but on photos on its case was written 08. The same situation with CZ-11H - Y1, but, probably, 07 on its case.

 

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