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Re: Iranian Space
« Reply #180 on: 02/03/2012 09:27 pm »
An interesting video

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Re: Iranian Space
« Reply #181 on: 02/04/2012 04:31 pm »
I found this article on a Israeli website , note the Cold Gas Propulsion System on the poster in the background .

Hopefully we can get this article translated .

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Re: Iranian Space
« Reply #182 on: 02/04/2012 04:54 pm »
Wasn't that a plant for making solid fuel for missiles, to date all Iranian launches have been from liquid fueled vehicles.
Iran has been developing, and has already flown, a solid fuel ballistic missile named Sejjil - a significant development.  This is the beginning of the real path to ICBM capability for Iran - a big worry for the U.S. since it would bring Kansas City, etc., into Iran's sights, literally, with push button immediacy.  (The big liquid fuel rockets used for space launch are public relations diversions from the real missile work underway, IMO.)     
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sejjil
This accident might be a setback, but I would expect Iran to have redundancy in such facilities. 

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According to recent reports, their plant blew up.

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Re: Iranian Space
« Reply #183 on: 02/05/2012 11:00 pm »
The intel and security sites are pretty uniform in reporting that the solid rocket factory explosion was sabotage, and probably related to the nuke scientist assassinations that have been happening. Guesses run from internal dissidents to Moussad, or a mix.
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Re: Iranian Space
« Reply #184 on: 02/05/2012 11:17 pm »
The intel and security sites are pretty uniform in reporting that the solid rocket factory explosion was sabotage, and probably related to the nuke scientist assassinations that have been happening. Guesses run from internal dissidents to Moussad, or a mix.

Most likely MOSSAD.
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Re: Iranian Space
« Reply #185 on: 02/05/2012 11:48 pm »
I doubt it was sabotage , senior US defense officials have indicated that the explosion was an industrial accident which took place while mixing volatile fuel for a ballistic missile :

http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2011/11/17/about-that-iran-explosion/

Israel's deputy prime minister has recently claimed that Iran is developing a missile with a 10.000 km range (!) :

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/03/world/middleeast/israel-warns-iranian-missiles-might-threaten-us.html


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Re: Iranian Space
« Reply #186 on: 02/06/2012 02:29 am »
The intel and security sites are pretty uniform in reporting that the solid rocket factory explosion was sabotage, and probably related to the nuke scientist assassinations that have been happening. Guesses run from internal dissidents to Moussad, or a mix.

If not an accident, then it was an act of war.  Where's the war?

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Re: Iranian Space
« Reply #187 on: 02/06/2012 02:44 am »
You have to prove sabotage.  It could have looked so much like an accident, there is no true way to tell.

I will say this, there are a  lot of happy accidents happening in Iran recently.

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Re: Iranian Space
« Reply #188 on: 02/06/2012 04:27 am »
I doubt it was sabotage , senior US defense officials have indicated that the explosion was an industrial accident....
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And you expect anyone involved to actually fess up? Ain't gonna happen - that isn't how Special Ops are *supposed* to be done.  The Administration revealing so many details of the Bin Laden raid ticked off a whole lot of USSOCOM people, active and retired.

These "magnetic bombs" being used to attack vehicles sounds an awful lot like the Mk III Clam developed by the Brits in WW-II; a small version of the Limpet mine used on ships. The Clam is a small rectangular phenolic case with high-strength magnets and a delay fuse. Attach, hit the timer & gitouttathere.

Rough drawing link....
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Re: Iranian Space
« Reply #189 on: 02/06/2012 05:54 am »
http://www.mehrnews.com/en/newsdetail.aspx?NewsID=1526530
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TEHRAN, Feb. 5 (MNA) – Defense Minister Ahmad Vahidi Announced on Sunday that Iran plans to launch new generation of domestically manufactured satellites in the near future.

Vahidi also said that the Fajr (Dawn) satellite is the first new-generation satellite that will be put into orbit. .

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Re: Iranian Space
« Reply #190 on: 02/08/2012 06:06 pm »
Simulation of Simorgh launch:

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Re: Iranian Space
« Reply #191 on: 02/08/2012 06:42 pm »
Head of ISA: Fajr can be launched during this month


In Farsi:
http://tinyurl.com/85kvm6g
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Re: Iranian Space
« Reply #192 on: 02/08/2012 07:24 pm »

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Re: Iranian Space
« Reply #193 on: 02/08/2012 07:26 pm »

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Re: Iranian Space
« Reply #194 on: 02/08/2012 08:39 pm »
Video:

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Re: Iranian Space
« Reply #195 on: 02/08/2012 08:40 pm »
Simorgh animation:

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Re: Iranian Space
« Reply #196 on: 02/08/2012 08:48 pm »
In the exploded view at the start of the simulation of the Simorgh there is an indication of a third stage, but everything else points to a two-stage vehicle.

I assume that the caption is in error.
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Re: Iranian Space
« Reply #197 on: 02/08/2012 08:55 pm »
Head of ISA: Fajr can be launched during this month


In Farsi:
http://tinyurl.com/85kvm6g

Google Translate gives me a rather 'poetic' translation of the article, but I think it says that they want to launch Fajr on 22 Bahman (11 February) and that the launch vehicle will be a Safir 1-B. Is that the Safir with a Cold Gas Kick Motor?
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Re: Iranian Space
« Reply #198 on: 02/08/2012 09:03 pm »
Head of ISA: Fajr can be launched during this month
In Farsi:
http://tinyurl.com/85kvm6g
Google Translate gives me a rather 'poetic' translation of the article, but I think it says that they want to launch Fajr on 22 Bahman (11 February) and that the launch vehicle will be a Safir 1-B. Is that the Safir with a Cold Gas Kick Motor?

The February 11th launch date is being quoted on Iranian web sites, presumably from the same source.
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Re: Iranian Space
« Reply #199 on: 02/08/2012 09:44 pm »
Completed launches

Date - Satellite(s) - Rocket - Launch Site - Time (UTC)

2008.08.17 - Omid - Safir-1A - Semnan - launch failure
2009.02.02 - Omid - Safir-1A - Semnan - 18:34
2011.06.15 - Rasad - Safir-1A - Semnan - 9:15:03
2012.02.03 - Navid Elm-o-Sana't - Safir-1B - Semnan - 00:04

Planned launches

Date - Satellite(s) - Rocket - Launch Site - Time (UTC)

2012

February 11 (TBD) - Fajr - Safir-1B - Semnan -TBD
June - Tolou - Simorgh - Semnan - TBD
TBD - Zafar - Simorgh - Semnan -TBD


2015 - Pars2 - TBD - TBD - TBD

2017 -Qaem (GSO communication satellite) - TBD - TBD - TBD

2019 - manned launch - TBD - TBD - TBD

Unclear:

TBD - Mesbah-2 - TBD - Semnan - TBD
TBD - AutSat (A Test, Amir Kabir-1, RU300) - Simorgh - Semnan - TBD
TBD - Masud 2 & Rasad 2 - Simorgh - Semnan -TBD
TBD - Parsmehr - TBD - TBD - TBD
TBD - Sharif (GSO satellite) - TBD - TBD - TBD

Changes оn February 8th
Changes оn February 9th
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