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Title: LIVE: Shenzhou-10 - Launch/Docking Mission/Landing Updates - June, 2013
Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/10/2013 08:57 pm
LIVE Launch Day Coverage of the Shenzhou-10 launch via a Long March 2F/G.

This thread should be updates only.

For continuing discussion, use the mission development and processing flow updates:
http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=29188.0


Launch Preview/Overview Article - by Rui C. Barbosa:
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2013/06/china-launch-three-shenzhou-10/

Docking and mission overview article - by Rui C. Barbosa:
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2013/06/chinas-shenzhou-10-docks-tiangong-1/

EOM Article:
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2013/06/three-person-crew-chinas-shenzhou-10-return-earth/

Chinese Space News Articles:
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/news/chinese/
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 06/11/2013 04:48 am
Apparently coverage of Shenzhou 10 on CCTV starts at 06:00 UTC (a little more than an hour from now).

I am trying to find a good webcast link.....
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: mfoster on 06/11/2013 05:08 am
Apparently coverage of Shenzhou 10 on CCTV starts at 06:00 UTC (a little more than an hour from now).

I am trying to find a good webcast link.....

try this link http://english.cntv.cn/program/newsupdate/20130611/101959.shtml
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: beidou on 06/11/2013 05:40 am
T-4h
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Targeteer on 06/11/2013 05:53 am
For those with Dish Network in the US, try channel 265. They were running previews this morning.
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 06/11/2013 06:15 am
Precise launch time announced as 09:38:07 UTC.
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Artyom. on 06/11/2013 06:29 am
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Artyom. on 06/11/2013 06:30 am
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Artyom. on 06/11/2013 06:34 am
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Artyom. on 06/11/2013 06:48 am
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Artyom. on 06/11/2013 06:49 am
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 06/11/2013 06:50 am
The crew has just walked out and reported to the chief program director.
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Artyom. on 06/11/2013 06:50 am
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Artyom. on 06/11/2013 06:51 am
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: malu5531 on 06/11/2013 07:03 am
I have seen many live launches on CCTV, John Lewis seem to be coming back every time (?), which is awesome. He gives logical and understandable explanations and have some interesting stories.

Link to CCTV live stream: http://english.cntv.cn/live/ (http://english.cntv.cn/live/)
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: sdsds on 06/11/2013 07:06 am
From CCTV: "Shenzhou-10 ready to launch."
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: malu5531 on 06/11/2013 07:07 am
Discussion of commercial space, mentioning SpaceX and Bigelow and how competition lowers cost.
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 06/11/2013 07:15 am
Earlier today the three astronauts were met by new Chinese president Xi Jinping (yup, he flew all the way from Sacramento to Beijing to Jiuquan after meeting Obama over the weekend!):
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 06/11/2013 07:35 am
Photos of the crew walkout (more available here (http://news.cntv.cn/2013/06/11/PHOA1370927322365992.shtml)):
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 06/11/2013 07:46 am
Crew ingress has started.
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: tonyq on 06/11/2013 07:50 am
Crew ingress has started.

Any pics or video anywhere. Live feed seems to have ended, for now?
 
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 06/11/2013 07:50 am
Crew ingress has started.

Any pics or video anywhere. Live feed seems to have ended, for now?
 

That's correct - I think live coverage won't be back until T-15 minutes (09:20 UTC).
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Lewis007 on 06/11/2013 07:57 am
Video (before walk-out) of the crew meeting Chinese president Xi Jinping
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 06/11/2013 08:09 am
T-90 minutes
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Lewis007 on 06/11/2013 08:17 am
Video of crew walk-out
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/11/2013 08:39 am
L-60 minutes.
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 06/11/2013 08:54 am
The three astronauts inside the descent module:
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Satori on 06/11/2013 08:54 am
Everything looks good for launch at this time. Temperature 34 ℃, wind velocity 4,3 m / s, visibility 30 km.
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Satori on 06/11/2013 08:55 am
CCTV4 http://www.cctv-4.com/2013/ has special edition for the launch. Chinese language only.
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Satori on 06/11/2013 09:05 am
Lower service platform is being open.
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 06/11/2013 09:08 am
T-30 minutes
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Artyom. on 06/11/2013 09:08 am
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/11/2013 09:09 am
10 mins to the English language webcast:
http://english.cntv.cn/program/newsupdate/20130611/101959.shtml

Artyom - great quality snaps as always. Will rely on you for the launch image for Rui's article! ;)
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Artyom. on 06/11/2013 09:09 am
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 06/11/2013 09:10 am
Service platforms retracting....
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Artyom. on 06/11/2013 09:12 am
Artyom - great quality snaps as always. Will rely on you for the launch image for Rui's article! ;)
Thank's :) !  I will try.
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Artyom. on 06/11/2013 09:16 am
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Satori on 06/11/2013 09:19 am
20 minutes for launch... CCTV News coverage is very poor this time...
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 06/11/2013 09:22 am
20 minutes for launch... CCTV News coverage is very poor this time...

I hope that by Shenzhou 11 there will be a CNSA-TV for us spaceflight geeks..... the normalization of Chinese human spaceflight won't help with that.  ::)

Coming up on T-15 minutes, by which the last of the workers on the pad will retreat.
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/11/2013 09:23 am
Hmm, ok. We need an English webcast that doesn't ask you to install something in Chinese!
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: tigerade on 06/11/2013 09:24 am
This link is working for me.  They are currently talking about asteroids for some reason.

 http://english.cntv.cn/live/
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/11/2013 09:25 am
This link is working for me.  They are currently talking about asteroids for some reason.

 http://english.cntv.cn/live/

Excellent, thanks! Ah yes, it's that "NASA sucks. HSF sucks" guy again.
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/11/2013 09:26 am
T-12 mins.
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: tonyq on 06/11/2013 09:26 am
This link is working for me.  They are currently talking about asteroids for some reason.

 http://english.cntv.cn/live/

Exactly! The clock is ticking and they are waffling about something totally irrelevant...
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Satori on 06/11/2013 09:28 am
10 minutes for launch...
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/11/2013 09:28 am
T-10 mins and still talking about asteroids!
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/11/2013 09:29 am
This capture is more apt ;)
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: beidou on 06/11/2013 09:30 am
T-10 mins and still talking about asteroids!

Live broadcast will start on T-5min :)
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: beidou on 06/11/2013 09:32 am
T-5min
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Satori on 06/11/2013 09:32 am
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/11/2013 09:32 am
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: TALsite on 06/11/2013 09:33 am
Another link (in Chinese)
http://tv.cntv.cn/live/cctv13 (http://tv.cntv.cn/live/cctv13)

Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/11/2013 09:33 am
Finally :)
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Artyom. on 06/11/2013 09:33 am
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Satori on 06/11/2013 09:33 am
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/11/2013 09:34 am
A dig at the ISS from Mr Lewis before they finally go to live coverage.
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/11/2013 09:34 am
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/11/2013 09:35 am
T-180 seconds.
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/11/2013 09:35 am
Chinese top brass.
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: tigerade on 06/11/2013 09:35 am
They seem to be putting quite a delay on the broadcast.
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/11/2013 09:36 am
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/11/2013 09:36 am
Chinese PM.
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/11/2013 09:36 am
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/11/2013 09:37 am
T-60 seconds. God Speed!
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/11/2013 09:38 am
Umbilicals disconnection.
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/11/2013 09:38 am
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: TALsite on 06/11/2013 09:38 am
LAUNCH !!
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Artyom. on 06/11/2013 09:38 am
LAUNCH!!!
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: TALsite on 06/11/2013 09:39 am
The english channel has at least 10 seconds delay
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/11/2013 09:39 am
LAUNCH!!
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/11/2013 09:39 am
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/11/2013 09:39 am
Rocketcam!
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/11/2013 09:40 am
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Artyom. on 06/11/2013 09:40 am
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Artyom. on 06/11/2013 09:40 am
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/11/2013 09:41 am
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/11/2013 09:41 am
Booster sep.
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Artyom. on 06/11/2013 09:41 am
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/11/2013 09:42 am
Wow...
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/11/2013 09:42 am
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Artyom. on 06/11/2013 09:42 am
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: TALsite on 06/11/2013 09:42 am
"Korolyov cross"
We need to find a name for 1st stage sep
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/11/2013 09:42 am
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Skyrocket on 06/11/2013 09:43 am
Wow...


Nice Chinese version of Korolyov's cross
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Artyom. on 06/11/2013 09:43 am
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/11/2013 09:43 am
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/11/2013 09:43 am
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/11/2013 09:44 am
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Artyom. on 06/11/2013 09:45 am
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 06/11/2013 09:46 am
Second stage main engine shutdown.
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/11/2013 09:47 am
Nominal flight so far.
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Artyom. on 06/11/2013 09:48 am
Shenzhou-10 separation!!!

My congratulations!
       
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/11/2013 09:48 am
S/C Sep!
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: TALsite on 06/11/2013 09:48 am
Taikonauts wawing after stage separation :)
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Artyom. on 06/11/2013 09:49 am
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/11/2013 09:49 am
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/11/2013 09:49 am
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Artyom. on 06/11/2013 09:50 am
Solar Arrays deployed
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Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/11/2013 09:51 am
Solar Panels and antennas deployed.
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Post by: Artyom. on 06/11/2013 09:51 am
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/11/2013 09:51 am
Handshakes in the control room.
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Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 06/11/2013 09:52 am
SZ-10 separated from the rocket at 09:47:34.231 UTC.
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: TALsite on 06/11/2013 09:52 am
The top officials are working very hard!! :P
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/11/2013 09:52 am
Chinese PM looks overjoyed.
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/11/2013 09:54 am
Some launch replays.
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Post by: Artyom. on 06/11/2013 09:56 am
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Post by: Artyom. on 06/11/2013 09:57 am
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Post by: Artyom. on 06/11/2013 09:57 am
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: TALsite on 06/11/2013 09:58 am
Capcom?
Another taikonaut?
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/11/2013 09:58 am
Ok, so this thread continues into Flight Day 1.

Rui's article updated:
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2013/06/china-launch-three-shenzhou-10/

Thanks to all who joined in with coverage!
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: TALsite on 06/11/2013 10:00 am
Congratulations to the chinese space program!  Well done!

And good coverage boys, with great screenshots. :)
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Artyom. on 06/11/2013 10:03 am
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: MATTBLAK on 06/11/2013 10:09 am
Good show! Well done, China - we salute you.
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Artyom. on 06/11/2013 10:19 am
http://news.xinhuanet.com/photo/2013-06/11/c_124844426.htm
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 06/11/2013 10:21 am
Initial orbit 200 * 329.8 km.
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: beidou on 06/11/2013 10:27 am
Chinese PM looks overjoyed.

This is definitely not the PM of China, even not a deputy one.
China's State policy: only in very rare case, both the president and PM can be leaving Beijing. As Xi is in Jiuquan today, the PM - Li cannot be there at the same time.
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Artyom. on 06/11/2013 10:32 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XzED_CUhdw
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: otisbow on 06/11/2013 10:33 am
I watched the launch on CCTV-4 and it was KOOL because it was in Chinese!
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 06/11/2013 10:33 am
If I heard correctly, the exact launch time is 09:38:02.666 UTC - not sure about the milliseconds though.
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 06/11/2013 11:49 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XzED_CUhdw

Slightly longer version:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9qJ5nprah4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9qJ5nprah4)
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: king1999 on 06/11/2013 12:14 pm
Ok, so this thread continues into Flight Day 1.

Rui's article updated:
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2013/06/china-launch-three-shenzhou-10/

Thanks to all who joined in with coverage!

The term for Chinese space travelers is not accurate in this article.

"Yu Hang Yuan" = Astronaut/Cosmonaut.
Is the term the Chinese use to call American and Russian astronauts.
Yu = Universe
Hang = Travel
Yuan = Person or member

"Hang Tian Yuan" is the term the Chinese use to call their own space travellers.
Hang = Travel
Tian = Space or Heaven
Yuan = Person or member

Taikonaut is a pretty good translation since Taikong = Space (anther way of saying "Tian", but it does not have the meaning of Heaven).

The Chinese call them "Hang Tian Yuan" because they call millitary airplane pilot "Hang Hong Yuan" where "Hong" means Air. Both terms have the same rhythms.
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: TJL on 06/11/2013 12:37 pm
Photos in cabin during launch seems to show a bit more room than Soyuz.
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: MATTBLAK on 06/11/2013 12:38 pm
Definitely - the cabin is a full half meter wider than the Soyuz Descent Module.
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Satori on 06/11/2013 12:46 pm
"Taikonaut" is not a translation from a Chinese word, but a «westernization» of the term "taikongren" that was used by Chen Lan to create the word 'taikonaut'.
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: robertross on 06/11/2013 12:58 pm
Superb coverage guys! Thanks

On a news site, they show a crowd at a distance watching the launch. I wonder if they realize what the first stage propellants are...eek!

Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 06/11/2013 01:28 pm
Another set of launch photos:
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Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 06/11/2013 01:29 pm
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 06/11/2013 01:32 pm
And the long awaited high-res set from Xinhua:
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 06/11/2013 01:34 pm
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: king1999 on 06/11/2013 02:03 pm
"Taikonaut" is not a translation from a Chinese word, but a «westernization» of the term "taikongren" that was used by Chen Lan to create the word 'taikonaut'.

A bit of history here. "Tai Kong Ren" is a general term for astronauts in China. "Tai Kong" = Space, and "Ren" = Person. People created the word "Taikonaut" from it.

When the Chinese launched the first crewed mission, they unveiled a brand new term "Hang Kong Yuan" especially for the Chinese astronauts. Because it was the fist time they sent people to the space, they wanted to make the name unique and special. Since then, the "Hang Kong Yuan" has been the official term for Chinese astronauts.

However, the term "Tai Kong Ren" is still used by many people, especially those in Taiwan and Hong Kong.
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: R7 on 06/11/2013 02:15 pm
And the long awaited high-res set from Xinhua:

Awesome imagery, many thanks for uploading.

Congrats to China!
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: ringshot on 06/11/2013 02:16 pm
I was struck by the slow liftoff... it must be a comfortable ride!

Does anyone know: is that by design? or are they just near the mass limit of this rocket?

Did a quick calc using the @liftoff numbers from the related article and came up with 39.1 ft/s^2 thrust accel at liftoff.

G'Day...Ron
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Soheil on 06/11/2013 03:29 pm
Congrats to Chinese brothers  ;)
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: JT355 on 06/11/2013 03:48 pm
I know its early days yet but I am excited about future missions now, Shenzhou 11+. Trouble is, I can't find much info on the net. Most I know is that they might launch Tiangong 2 soon, maybe next year which will be identical to Tiangong 1 but with better life support systems. Next up is the Long March V in 2015 which may allow the launch of the main body of the 2020 space station? Have I got it right? Can the experts help me out here with some kind of roadmap for the next few missions? Thanks  ;D
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: king1999 on 06/11/2013 04:18 pm
The launch is on YouTube (in Chinese)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdhwtq4bl8A
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: robertross on 06/11/2013 04:26 pm
"Taikonaut" is not a translation from a Chinese word, but a «westernization» of the term "taikongren" that was used by Chen Lan to create the word 'taikonaut'.

A bit of history here. "Tai Kong Ren" is a general term for astronauts in China. "Tai Kong" = Space, and "Ren" = Person. People created the word "Taikonaut" from it.

When the Chinese launched the first crewed mission, they unveiled a brand new term "Hang Kong Yuan" especially for the Chinese astronauts. Because it was the fist time they sent people to the space, they wanted to make the name unique and special. Since then, the "Hang Kong Yuan" has been the official term for Chinese astronauts.

However, the term "Tai Kong Ren" is still used by many people, especially those in Taiwan and Hong Kong.


interesting. thanks for the explanation
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Star One on 06/11/2013 04:29 pm
Definitely - the cabin is a full half meter wider than the Soyuz Descent Module.

I noted that, much more spacious in comparison to Soyuz. It really is very noticeable in my view.

The video coverage of the launch was excellent as well, helped by the crystal clear blue sky.
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Satori on 06/11/2013 05:50 pm
If I heard correctly, the exact launch time is 09:38:02.666 UTC - not sure about the milliseconds though.

Novosti Kosmonavtiki is also giving this launch time.
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 06/11/2013 05:56 pm
If I heard correctly, the exact launch time is 09:38:02.666 UTC - not sure about the milliseconds though.

Novosti Kosmonavtiki is also giving this launch time.

I have reviewed the launch video several times and also found a few blurry photos of the JSLC/Beijing LCC during launch, all of which supports the launch time as shown above.
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Satori on 06/11/2013 05:58 pm
If I heard correctly, the exact launch time is 09:38:02.666 UTC - not sure about the milliseconds though.

Novosti Kosmonavtiki is also giving this launch time.

I have reviewed the launch video several times and also found a few blurry photos of the JSLC/Beijing LCC during launch, all of which supports the launch time as shown above.

That's good! Thank you!
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: TJL on 06/11/2013 06:01 pm
http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32119.0;attach=527158;image

Crowd in foreground seem to be extremely close to the pad. Anyone know how far they really were?
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: anik on 06/11/2013 06:13 pm
Novosti Kosmonavtiki is also giving this launch time

Novosti kosmonavtiki used information from this forum.

I have reviewed the launch video several times and also found a few blurry photos of the JSLC/Beijing LCC during launch, all of which supports the launch time as shown above

Can you post those photos? I am collecting them since Shenzhou-1 launch. Thank you! :)
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: pargoo on 06/12/2013 01:11 am
     Dear anik,

     Do you have close-up hi-res launch pics for all manned SZ launches?  I have searched high and low for ones dating back to SZ 5, but have only found good ones for SZ 9 & 10 and a smaller one for (unmanned) SZ 8.  It's nice that XinHua has been releasing larger photos of late, but none of the earlier manned flights have been similarly treated :( 
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: frank808 on 06/12/2013 05:33 am
http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32119.0;attach=527158;image

Crowd in foreground seem to be extremely close to the pad. Anyone know how far they really were?


Here is a photo that could answer your question.
http://news.yahoo.com/lightbox/people-observe-long-march-2-f-rocket-loaded-photo-104751567.html
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: anik on 06/12/2013 06:31 am
Do you have close-up hi-res launch pics for all manned SZ launches?

No, I meant that I have photos of all Shenzhou launches inside local Mission Control Centre with exact launch times. I am collecting exact launch times: http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=27391.msg917422#msg917422. Photos serve as confirmation of launch times.
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: luhai167 on 06/12/2013 06:43 am
Chinese PM looks overjoyed.

The name card in front of him says Liu [cutoff, can't read]san. Probably some not very important official.
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Satori on 06/12/2013 08:12 am
Commentary: China's space dream a humble one (http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/202936/8281956.html).

First Dragon Boat Festival in space (http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/202936/8282221.html).

U.S. expert criticizes Congress's ban on U.S.-China space cooperation (http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/90883/8281962.html).

Feature: Space enthusiasts dream big after Shenzhou-10 launch (http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/202936/8281884.html).
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Satori on 06/12/2013 08:12 am
Does anyone have the times of the different launch phases? Thanks!
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Lewis007 on 06/12/2013 08:25 am
Some pix of rocket debris

http://www.chinanews.com/tp/hd2011/2013/06-12/213195.shtml
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 06/12/2013 08:50 am
There isn't much news on the mission since launch - the only report is that the crew has celebrated the "Dragonboat Festival" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duanwu_Festival) in orbit.  ::)

Does anyone have the times of the different launch phases? Thanks!

My search for photos/clearer videos at MCC Beijing during the launch phase has turned up naught.  :-X
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Lewis007 on 06/12/2013 09:08 am
Does anyone have the times of the different launch phases? Thanks!

See this article:
http://www.spaceflight101.com/shenzhou-10-mission-updates.html
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 06/12/2013 09:29 am
I don't think the launch replays have been posted before. Some of the new view angles are stunning!  :o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrWudi3xaT0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrWudi3xaT0)
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Satori on 06/12/2013 09:45 am
Does anyone have the times of the different launch phases? Thanks!

See this article:
http://www.spaceflight101.com/shenzhou-10-mission-updates.html


These are general times for the CZ-2F/G launch, not the ones on this particular mission.
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Lewis007 on 06/12/2013 09:46 am
Some pix of rocket debris

http://www.chinanews.com/tp/hd2011/2013/06-12/213195.shtml


More pix here:
http://news.have8.com/article/7239344.html

I don't know the exact location of the debris (despite google translation)
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: douglas100 on 06/12/2013 10:08 am
Looks like part of the fairing.
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: darkenfast on 06/12/2013 10:20 am
I'm guessing that we're looking at a piece of the fairing here. You can see the cruciform fin, deployed or just knocked out from the side.
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Satori on 06/12/2013 10:39 am
As GP has already pointed out, there are no news about what is happening on board Shenzhou-10 and the Chinese media keep sending news about what was already reported A dream launch for Shenzhou X (http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/china/2013-06/12/c_132449851.htm).
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Phillip Clark on 06/12/2013 11:40 am
Even for the Chinese, piloted space missions are becoming routine!
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: JimO on 06/12/2013 01:02 pm
As GP has already pointed out, there are no news about what is happening on board Shenzhou-10 and the Chinese media keep sending news about what was already reported A dream launch for Shenzhou X (http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/china/2013-06/12/c_132449851.htm).

How does this compare with the post-launch on-board activity coverage of Shenzhou-9?

When is the expected docking?

Any sightings by ground observers? Sven Grahn has been getting TM.
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: JimO on 06/12/2013 01:24 pm
There were several news releases about Shenzhou-9 in its first 24 hours in orbit, I can't find any about Shenzhou-10, but I haven't made a thorough search.

CCTV News Content: PRC's Shenzhou-9 Spacecraft Completes 1st Orbit Transfer 17 Jun
Shenzhou-9 Completes 3 Orbit Changes in Preparation To Dock With Tiangong-1

Xinhua 'Urgent': Shenzhou-9 Spacecraft To Dock With Tiangong-1 Around 2 Pm
Xinhua 'Urgent': China's Astronauts To Enter Tiangong-1 at 5:22 Pm
Xinhua: Shenzhou-9 52 Km Away From Space Lab Module Tiangong-1
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Satori on 06/12/2013 01:39 pm
So, is it confirmed that there will be no live coverage for the docking?
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: tonyq on 06/12/2013 03:02 pm
As GP has already pointed out, there are no news about what is happening on board Shenzhou-10 and the Chinese media keep sending news about what was already reported A dream launch for Shenzhou X (http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/china/2013-06/12/c_132449851.htm).

This reduction in media coverage actually started before the launch.

For SZ-9, we had same day coverage of the crews arriving at JSLC, the tree/flag ceremonies (the astronauts were easily identified, though not formally named) and then we saw film of the TCDT, edited so we couldn't see which crew it was!

On launch day, there was live footage of the crew arriving at the gantry and, a few moments later, boarding the capsule. None of this has happened this time.

For whatever reason, the coverage has been scaled back quite signicantly.

However, the longer term build up, shipping components etc. followed the usual pattern enabling the potential launch date to be tracked quite easily, so there are contradictions in all this?
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Lewis007 on 06/12/2013 03:03 pm
Video of Dragon Boat Day wishes of the crew on fd2.
Later, the taikonauts tasted their specially prepared holiday treat: red bean Zongzi.
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: AnimatorRob on 06/12/2013 05:17 pm
Watching the video above I see that the booster are jettisoned just a second or so before the first stage. Can anyone tell me why not just separate the first stage with the boosters still attached? Obviously there is a good reason but it seems to be adding failure modes the way it is.
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Satori on 06/12/2013 05:40 pm
From ShangaiDaily Astronauts take off on 15-day space odyssey (http://www.shanghaidaily.com/nsp/National/2013/06/12/Astronauts%2Btake%2Boff%2Bon%2B15day%2Bspace%2Bodyssey/).
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: SgtPoivre on 06/12/2013 05:44 pm
Watching the video above I see that the booster are jettisoned just a second or so before the first stage. Can anyone tell me why not just separate the first stage with the boosters still attached? Obviously there is a good reason but it seems to be adding failure modes the way it is.

I would say that the extinction sequence of the boosters may be difficult to control or predict and can generate a significant residual thrust dissymetry. Separating the main stage with the boosters still attached could then prove difficult.
They could wait a few seconds but the launcher may be highly unstable at this stage of flight.
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Satori on 06/12/2013 05:44 pm


I don't know the exact location of the debris (despite google translation)


Yulin, Shaanxi province
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/12/2013 07:52 pm
Can't believe they aren't doing live coveage for docking. Anyway, we'll have to keep an eye on how it all goes via the Chinese media.
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: baldusi on 06/12/2013 08:02 pm
Watching the video above I see that the booster are jettisoned just a second or so before the first stage. Can anyone tell me why not just separate the first stage with the boosters still attached? Obviously there is a good reason but it seems to be adding failure modes the way it is.
I seem to recall that the original boosters had less propellant, and thus were ejected sooner. I think (and might be wrong), that they didn't wanted to change anything more than size after extending them. But might be wrong.
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 06/12/2013 10:20 pm
Watching the video above I see that the booster are jettisoned just a second or so before the first stage. Can anyone tell me why not just separate the first stage with the boosters still attached? Obviously there is a good reason but it seems to be adding failure modes the way it is.
I seem to recall that the original boosters had less propellant, and thus were ejected sooner. I think (and might be wrong), that they didn't wanted to change anything more than size after extending them. But might be wrong.

http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=14392.msg813258#msg813258 (http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=14392.msg813258#msg813258)

This new version of the LM-2F rocket uses lengthened liquid boosters with a higher propellant load (the boosters for the original LM-2F separates at ~T+140s), and probably the engineers decided not to fix the boosters to the first stage, since it would require in-depth investigation on the effect of series staging (if it ain't broke, don't fix it).
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/12/2013 10:31 pm
Do we have any idea of a UTC for docking? (Sorry if I missed it)
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 06/12/2013 10:34 pm
Do we have any idea of a UTC for docking? (Sorry if I missed it)

Should be around 05:00 UTC if they stick with the previous rendezvous profile as SZ-8/9. Not sure why but I have not seen official reports of a docking time anywhere up till now - not even in Chinese news reports!  ::)
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: manboy on 06/13/2013 12:12 am
Some pix of rocket debris

http://www.chinanews.com/tp/hd2011/2013/06-12/213195.shtml

Isn't that thing covered in UDMH?
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: notsorandom on 06/13/2013 12:49 am
Some pix of rocket debris

http://www.chinanews.com/tp/hd2011/2013/06-12/213195.shtml

Isn't that thing covered in UDMH?
If that is the fairing and it looks like it may be then it likely has very little contamination.
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: 360-180 on 06/13/2013 03:00 am
Isn't that thing covered in UDMH?
http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=32119.msg1062792#msg1062792 Ring of Fire  ;)
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 06/13/2013 05:03 am
SZ-10 should be 5-10 minutes from docking with TG-1 by now, yet absolutely no news from the Chinese (not even a BREAKING NEWS article!)....  >:(
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Liss on 06/13/2013 05:06 am
http://tv.cntv.cn/live/cctv13 has just launched some type of live event.
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 06/13/2013 05:13 am
http://tv.cntv.cn/live/cctv13 has just launched some type of live event.

That's just a recap of the launch and the history of spacecraft docking (US/Russia).....I haven't seen anything useful yet.  ::)
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 06/13/2013 05:32 am
The CCTV News Channel is still doing a rendezvous and docking feature.....without mentioning what is really happening with SZ-10 and TG-1.  ::) Right now the narrator is talking about Gemini 6/7/8 and STS-71, among other milestones of rendezvous and docking techniques.  :P
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 06/13/2013 05:46 am
Huh.... they have just speak about UNOOSA's "Celebrating 50 Years of Women in Space" event (http://www.oosa.unvienna.org/oosa/en/events/wis.html), which Valentina Tereshkova, Liu Yang and other women astronauts and experts in spaceflight attended.

And they just cut off for other worldwide news......  :-X
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 06/13/2013 06:05 am
BREAKING NEWS: Shenzhou 10 has docked with Tiangong 1 at 05:18 UTC. <oh the irony><oh the anti-climax><oh so quiet>  ::)
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 06/13/2013 06:33 am
BREAKING NEWS: Shenzhou 10 has docked with Tiangong 1 at 05:18 UTC. <oh the irony><oh the anti-climax><oh so quiet>  ::)

Per http://news.xinhuanet.com/mil/2013-06/13/c_124850461.htm (http://news.xinhuanet.com/mil/2013-06/13/c_124850461.htm), the time above is for the hard dock - automatic docking control was initiated at 02:48 UTC and docking contact was at 05:11 UTC.
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Satori on 06/13/2013 07:47 am
The wreckage of the launch escape tower was found in the Badain Jaran Desert, the northwest of north China's Inner Mongolia Autonomous Region.
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Satori on 06/13/2013 07:48 am
The wreckage of the launch escape tower was found in the Badain Jaran Desert, the northwest of north China's Inner Mongolia Autonomous Region.
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Satori on 06/13/2013 07:51 am
From Xinhua, Shenzhou-10 docks with space module (http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/china/2013-06/13/c_132452141.htm). Not much info about the docking and the photo was taken from the screen at the Beijing Aerospace Control Center.
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/13/2013 08:01 am
And a docking article and mission overview via Rui:

http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2013/06/chinas-shenzhou-10-docks-tiangong-1/
Title: Re: LIVE: Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - Launch/Mission Updates - June, 2013
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 06/13/2013 08:57 am
The crew has entered Tiangong 1 at 08:17 UTC.
Title: Re: LIVE: Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - Launch/Mission Updates - June, 2013
Post by: JT355 on 06/13/2013 10:29 am
How come there wasn't live coverage of the docking like SZ-9, not even a replay I can find  :'( Coverage of docking very poor compared to the launch. What is the reason for this does anybody know?
Title: Re: LIVE: Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - Launch/Mission Updates - June, 2013
Post by: Satori on 06/13/2013 10:52 am
From Xinhua, Astronauts of Shenzhou-10 spacecraft enter Tiangong-1 orbiter (http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/china/2013-06/13/c_132452881.htm).
Title: Re: LIVE: Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - Launch/Mission Updates - June, 2013
Post by: Satori on 06/13/2013 11:00 am
Not very interesting, but a few images taken on the Beijing Control Central during the docking.
Title: Re: LIVE: Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - Launch/Mission Updates - June, 2013
Post by: Satori on 06/13/2013 11:02 am
A few more courtesy of the 9ifly space forum...
Title: Re: LIVE: Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - Launch/Mission Updates - June, 2013
Post by: Satori on 06/13/2013 11:09 am
A video (in Chinese) about the docking...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=n3rR54CiO_E#!
Title: Re: LIVE: Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - Launch/Mission Updates - June, 2013
Post by: Artyom. on 06/13/2013 02:20 pm
The crew has entered Tiangong 1 at 08:17 UTC.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=uelTZOrktXE
Title: Re: LIVE: Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - Launch/Mission Updates - June, 2013
Post by: Lewis007 on 06/13/2013 03:28 pm
Crew happy to be aboard the station.
Some pix here: http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/photo/2013-06/13/c_132453015.htm


Title: Re: LIVE: Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - Launch/Mission Updates - June, 2013
Post by: Lewis007 on 06/13/2013 03:54 pm
A page with a lot of pictures of Wang Yaping; her school days and pilot training.
http://www.wenxuecity.com/news/2013/06/12/2451340.html
Title: Re: LIVE: Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - Launch/Mission Updates - June, 2013
Post by: Star One on 06/13/2013 05:04 pm
Pity they have scaled back the coverage this time around.
Title: Re: LIVE: Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - Launch/Mission Updates - June, 2013
Post by: Phillip Clark on 06/13/2013 05:15 pm
Pity they have scaled back the coverage this time around.

As missions become more routine we can expect less and less live coverage, I think.   It will be sad, but we have no right to demand that the Chinese - or anyone else - broadcast everything live.
Title: Re: LIVE: Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - Launch/Mission Updates - June, 2013
Post by: Satori on 06/13/2013 05:27 pm
Pity they have scaled back the coverage this time around.

As missions become more routine we can expect less and less live coverage, I think.   It will be sad, but we have no right to demand that the Chinese - or anyone else - broadcast everything live.

Well, that's true. The only explanation I find for the fact that they will broadcast the second docking its because it will do something that they didn't done before (fly-around, R-bar approach, etc.).
Title: Re: LIVE: Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - Launch/Mission Updates - June, 2013
Post by: Zero-G on 06/13/2013 07:09 pm
Didn't they already perform a R-bar approach and/or fly-around on this (automatic) docking, or was this basically just a repeat of the SZ-9 automatic docking?
Title: Re: LIVE: Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - Launch/Mission Updates - June, 2013
Post by: Satori on 06/13/2013 11:17 pm
Didn't they already perform a R-bar approach and/or fly-around on this (automatic) docking, or was this basically just a repeat of the SZ-9 automatic docking?


That's the question. I think it would be more cautious to have a repeat of the SZ-9 automatic docking on the first rendezvous and then proceed with the R-bar approach on the second docking when all the scientific and other objectives of the mission were accomplished. But this is my opinion.

The graphics I saw related to this docking point to a V-bar rendezvous and docking, but this is something that needs to be confirmed.
Title: Re: LIVE: Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - Launch/Mission Updates - June, 2013
Post by: tonyq on 06/14/2013 06:52 am
Didn't they already perform a R-bar approach and/or fly-around on this (automatic) docking, or was this basically just a repeat of the SZ-9 automatic docking?


That's the question. I think it would be more cautious to have a repeat of the SZ-9 automatic docking on the first rendezvous and then proceed with the R-bar approach on the second docking when all the scientific and other objectives of the mission were accomplished. But this is my opinion.

The graphics I saw related to this docking point to a V-bar rendezvous and docking, but this is something that needs to be confirmed.

Zarya.info have published a graphic and text suggesting the R-bar approach WAS utilised.

http://www.zarya.info/blog/?p=1197
Title: Re: LIVE: Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - Launch/Mission Updates - June, 2013
Post by: Satori on 06/14/2013 07:34 am
Didn't they already perform a R-bar approach and/or fly-around on this (automatic) docking, or was this basically just a repeat of the SZ-9 automatic docking?


That's the question. I think it would be more cautious to have a repeat of the SZ-9 automatic docking on the first rendezvous and then proceed with the R-bar approach on the second docking when all the scientific and other objectives of the mission were accomplished. But this is my opinion.

The graphics I saw related to this docking point to a V-bar rendezvous and docking, but this is something that needs to be confirmed.

Zarya.info have published a graphic and text suggesting the R-bar approach WAS utilised.

http://www.zarya.info/blog/?p=1197

I also saw that, but while we don't have any confirmation from the Chinese side its still only a suggestion.
Title: Re: LIVE: Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - Launch/Mission Updates - June, 2013
Post by: Satori on 06/14/2013 07:50 am
From Xinhua, Cushion added for life in orbit (http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/china/2013-06/14/c_132454515.htm) and Buddhists believe in outer space: Shaolin abbot (http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/china/2013-06/13/c_132453270.htm).
Title: Re: LIVE: Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - Launch/Mission Updates - June, 2013
Post by: Satori on 06/14/2013 07:52 am
From People's Daily, China's astronaut food over the decade: from fast food to customization (http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/202936/8284327.html) and Science and technology makes Shenzhou-10 different (http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/202936/8284902.html).
Title: Re: LIVE: Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - Launch/Mission Updates - June, 2013
Post by: Satori on 06/14/2013 03:12 pm
From Xinhua, Chinese astronauts complete warm-up maintenance work in space module (http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/china/2013-06/14/c_132456254.html).
Title: Re: LIVE: Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - Launch/Mission Updates - June, 2013
Post by: Lewis007 on 06/14/2013 03:20 pm
The three taikonauts have installed the new floor panels aboard the Tiangong station this Friday.
See: http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/china/2013-06/14/c_132456254.htm

The article makes references to video clips showing the taikonauts at work, but no video is attached, and neither are any photos (video grabs). Perhaps later.

As mentioned by other people, I find the Chinese coverage annoying. Why don't they have a special webpage for these spaceflights, instead of using Chinese media outlets. Why are no real photos published once the crew gets in space? These photos do exist, and we saw some of SZ-9 after the landing (Hong Kong exhibition).
I wrote to my Chinese embassy to obtain copies of these photos, or of earlier flights, but no response so far (it's five months ago).
Title: Re: LIVE: Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - Launch/Mission Updates - June, 2013
Post by: Satori on 06/14/2013 06:27 pm
Didn't they already perform a R-bar approach and/or fly-around on this (automatic) docking, or was this basically just a repeat of the SZ-9 automatic docking?


That's the question. I think it would be more cautious to have a repeat of the SZ-9 automatic docking on the first rendezvous and then proceed with the R-bar approach on the second docking when all the scientific and other objectives of the mission were accomplished. But this is my opinion.

The graphics I saw related to this docking point to a V-bar rendezvous and docking, but this is something that needs to be confirmed.

Zarya.info have published a graphic and text suggesting the R-bar approach WAS utilised.

http://www.zarya.info/blog/?p=1197

I also saw that, but while we don't have any confirmation from the Chinese side its still only a suggestion.

Here http://www.dragoninspace.com/shenzhou/shenzhou10.aspx it says Shenzhou 10 rendezvoused to Tiangong 1 using a traditional V-bar approach.
Title: Re: LIVE: Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - Launch/Mission Updates - June, 2013
Post by: Lewis007 on 06/15/2013 07:43 am
Teacher-in-space Barbara Morgan sent a letter to Wang Yaping on June 13 with the following text: “Dear Wang Yaping. On behalf of teachers and students around the world, I send you greetings of honor and love as you orbit our Earth and prepare to teach your lessons from space. We are proud of you. We wish you and your crewmates safety and success. You will be very busy up there, but please remember to take time to look out the window. China and all of this world are beautiful. Sincerely yours, Barbara Morgan.”

See: http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/photo/2013-06/15/c_132457346.htm

I also managed to find a video of the "floor R&R" carried out on fd4 (attached)
Title: Re: LIVE: Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - Launch/Mission Updates - June, 2013
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 06/15/2013 08:18 am
Teacher-in-space Barbara Morgan sent a letter to Wang Yaping on June 13 with the following text: “Dear Wang Yaping. On behalf of teachers and students around the world, I send you greetings of honor and love as you orbit our Earth and prepare to teach your lessons from space. We are proud of you. We wish you and your crewmates safety and success. You will be very busy up there, but please remember to take time to look out the window. China and all of this world are beautiful. Sincerely yours, Barbara Morgan.”

See: http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/photo/2013-06/15/c_132457346.htm

I also managed to find a video of the "floor R&R" carried out on fd4 (attached)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=8MJb0C6lU94 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=8MJb0C6lU94)

Looks like those honeycomb paper panels work - they are much sturdier than the bouncy ones used.
Title: Re: LIVE: Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - Launch/Mission Updates - June, 2013
Post by: JimO on 06/15/2013 12:06 pm
Pity they have scaled back the coverage this time around.

As missions become more routine we can expect less and less live coverage, I think.   It will be sad, but we have no right to demand that the Chinese - or anyone else - broadcast everything live.

A recent article in the South China morning Post was explicit over this change in policy:

A China Central Television staff member said that they had been told by the authorities to cut back on their coverage of the mission because the increasing number of Chinese space flights would see docking and other procedures become routine and repeated media bombardment would quickly bore the public.

"We have been told that CNN and the BBC have not had live broadcasts of routine docking at the International Space Station, and that as the state broadcaster in China shouldn't make too much of a fuss about docking from now on," the CCTV staff member said. "The scaling down of media coverage also signals the maturity of the Chinese space programme."
Title: Re: LIVE: Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - Launch/Mission Updates - June, 2013
Post by: spectre9 on 06/15/2013 10:28 pm
Increasing number?

How many launches have I missed?  :o
Title: Re: LIVE: Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - Launch/Mission Updates - June, 2013
Post by: Dalhousie on 06/16/2013 03:43 am
Clearly they mean the increasing total.
Title: Re: LIVE: Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - Launch/Mission Updates - June, 2013
Post by: kch on 06/16/2013 04:33 am
Increasing number?

How many launches have I missed?  :o

You've missed the next 10 years -- later-for-that ... ;)
Title: Re: LIVE: Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - Launch/Mission Updates - June, 2013
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 06/18/2013 09:06 am
The long awaited educational event will be covered live on June 20 at 02:00 - 03:00 UTC. (http://bbs.9ifly.cn/forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&ptid=11442&pid=254794)
Title: Re: LIVE: Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - Launch/Mission Updates - June, 2013
Post by: beidou on 06/18/2013 10:35 am
The long awaited educational event will be covered live on June 20 at 02:00 - 03:00 UTC. (http://bbs.9ifly.cn/forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&ptid=11442&pid=254794)

This schedule is confusing: 02:00- 03:00 UTC will be 10:00 - 11:00 pm in Beijing Time, it will be too late for the Chinese kids :-[
Title: Re: LIVE: Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - Launch/Mission Updates - June, 2013
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 06/18/2013 10:53 am
The long awaited educational event will be covered live on June 20 at 02:00 - 03:00 UTC. (http://bbs.9ifly.cn/forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&ptid=11442&pid=254794)

This schedule is confusing: 02:00- 03:00 UTC will be 10:00 - 11:00 pm in Beijing Time, it will be too late for the Chinese kids :-[

02:00- 03:00 UTC is 10:00 - 11:00 am local - right at the time where recess can be cut.  ;)
Title: Re: LIVE: Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - Launch/Mission Updates - June, 2013
Post by: beidou on 06/18/2013 06:04 pm
The long awaited educational event will be covered live on June 20 at 02:00 - 03:00 UTC. (http://bbs.9ifly.cn/forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&ptid=11442&pid=254794)

This schedule is confusing: 02:00- 03:00 UTC will be 10:00 - 11:00 pm in Beijing Time, it will be too late for the Chinese kids :-[

02:00- 03:00 UTC is 10:00 - 11:00 am local - right at the time where recess can be cut.  ;)

My bad math >:(
Title: Re: LIVE: Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - Launch/Mission Updates - June, 2013
Post by: Satori on 06/19/2013 12:55 pm
CZ-2F/G third stage reentry over Brazil...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDx1N8zwPp4
Title: Re: LIVE: Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - Launch/Mission Updates - June, 2013
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 06/20/2013 01:57 am
The long awaited educational event will be covered live on June 20 at 02:00 - 03:00 UTC. (http://bbs.9ifly.cn/forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&ptid=11442&pid=254794)

Someone please check if there's English coverage on CCTV - this should start in a few minutes....
Title: Re: LIVE: Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - Launch/Mission Updates - June, 2013
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 06/20/2013 02:06 am
Event now starting....
Title: Re: LIVE: Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - Launch/Mission Updates - June, 2013
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 06/20/2013 02:13 am
Now live with the astronauts. First up is Nie Haisheng trying to flip around....
Title: Re: LIVE: Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - Launch/Mission Updates - June, 2013
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 06/20/2013 02:18 am
Talking about the difference between mass and weight right now... including measuring the mass of one of the astronauts.

Looks like the quality of the talk is on par with similar on-orbit educational events by NASA et al. Not bad at all!  :)
Title: Re: LIVE: Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - Launch/Mission Updates - June, 2013
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 06/20/2013 02:32 am
Pendulums, gyros, "ups and downs" in space, floating water droplets in space..... all are standard content for "space lessons", and the crew handled that pretty well.

This talk may serve as an advanced level test for people learning Chinese specializing in science and tech.  ::)

Also the talk offers us the clearest view of the interior of TG-1 up till now.  ;)
Title: Re: LIVE: Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - Launch/Mission Updates - June, 2013
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 06/20/2013 02:52 am
Now in the Q&A section after playing with water membranes and injecting color pigments into water droplets.

.....and event now ending.

Can someone recommend similar recorded lessons from NASA/ESA? Might be useful for me to promote STEM education.  :)
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 06/20/2013 08:17 am
Novosti Kosmonavtiki is also giving this launch time

Novosti kosmonavtiki used information from this forum.

I have reviewed the launch video several times and also found a few blurry photos of the JSLC/Beijing LCC during launch, all of which supports the launch time as shown above

Can you post those photos? I am collecting them since Shenzhou-1 launch. Thank you! :)

I'm a few days late, but someone kindly posted this TV screen shot that settles the issue:
Title: Re: LIVE: Chinese Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - June 11, 2013
Post by: anik on 06/20/2013 08:55 am
I'm a few days late, but someone kindly posted this TV screen shot that settles the issue

Thank you very much! 666... Gosh!
Title: Re: LIVE: Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - Launch/Mission Updates - June, 2013
Post by: snowhole on 06/20/2013 09:34 am
Now in the Q&A section after playing with water membranes and injecting color pigments into water droplets.

.....and event now ending.

Can someone recommend similar recorded lessons from NASA/ESA? Might be useful for me to promote STEM education.  :)

I believe the ESA youtube channel has a few.
Title: Re: LIVE: Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - Launch/Mission Updates - June, 2013
Post by: Satori on 06/20/2013 11:20 am
From Xinhua,

Chinese astronaut delivers first space lecture (http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/china/2013-06/20/c_132470614.htm).

Chinese astronauts talk water use, space junk protection (http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/china/2013-06/20/c_132470660.htm).

Chinese astronauts send regards to students (http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/china/2013-06/20/c_132470664.htm).

China astronaut: No UFOs yet (http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/china/2013-06/20/c_132470905.htm).

First space lecture opens new horizons for China (http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/china/2013-06/20/c_132471633.htm).

Chinese, US space teachers exchange correspondence (http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/china/2013-06/20/c_132471880.htm).
Title: Re: LIVE: Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - Launch/Mission Updates - June, 2013
Post by: hal9000 on 06/20/2013 12:10 pm
I think Tiangong must be like the Tardis - bigger on the outside than it looks.  I'm impressed how much room there is for something that only weighs 8 tons, especially compared to Soviet/Russian 'salyut' type modules.

I guess this is partly because of the lack of a central main instrument like most of Salyuts had, but even compared to the Mir base block it looks roomy.
Title: Re: LIVE: Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - Launch/Mission Updates - June, 2013
Post by: Lewis007 on 06/21/2013 07:00 am
The full video of the "space class" (41 minutes) can be seen here:
http://english.cntv.cn/program/newsupdate/20130620/103098.shtml
Title: Re: LIVE: Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - Launch/Mission Updates - June, 2013
Post by: tonyq on 06/22/2013 08:46 am
With the window until the SZ-10 crew are due to land closing by the hour, it's starting to look as if the re-docking may happen immediately before return to earth, and that they may not, therefore, actually re-enter TG-1?

This would mean that they only need to close TG-1 down once and would remove the need to plan for a contingency re-entry plan in the event of problems during the docking test. Thoughts anyone?
Title: Re: LIVE: Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - Launch/Mission Updates - June, 2013
Post by: pippin on 06/22/2013 10:11 am
Please pardon the ignorance and the latecoming... Have the Chinese moved to regen cooling for the 1st stage engines?
I thought originally they were based on Ariane's Viking engines, which where radiation cooled.
Title: Re: LIVE: Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - Launch/Mission Updates - June, 2013
Post by: Kryten on 06/22/2013 02:08 pm
I thought originally they were based on Ariane's Viking engines, which where radiation cooled.
You're thinking of the Indians there.
Title: Re: LIVE: Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - Launch/Mission Updates - June, 2013
Post by: pippin on 06/22/2013 04:34 pm
Ah, yes. Thanks. The very similar booster setup probably confused me...
Title: Re: LIVE: Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - Launch/Mission Updates - June, 2013
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 06/23/2013 02:56 am
With the window until the SZ-10 crew are due to land closing by the hour, it's starting to look as if the re-docking may happen immediately before return to earth, and that they may not, therefore, actually re-enter TG-1?

This would mean that they only need to close TG-1 down once and would remove the need to plan for a contingency re-entry plan in the event of problems during the docking test. Thoughts anyone?

Unfortunately you (and I and probably almost everyone guessing) were wrong; without any indications the crew undocked earlier today and completed the manual docking test with re-docking occurring at 02:07 UTC!  :o

Source: http://www.chinanews.com/gn/2013/06-23/4958747.shtml (http://www.chinanews.com/gn/2013/06-23/4958747.shtml)
Title: Re: LIVE: Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - Launch/Mission Updates - June, 2013
Post by: Olaf on 06/23/2013 03:13 am
Unfortunately you (and I and probably almost everyone guessing) were wrong; without any indications the crew undocked earlier today and completed the manual docking test with re-docking occurring at 02:07 UTC!  :o
Thank you for the quick information.
Title: Re: LIVE: Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - Launch/Mission Updates - June, 2013
Post by: Artyom. on 06/23/2013 06:24 am
http://news.cntv.cn/2013/06/23/VIDE1371956880663387.shtml
Title: Re: LIVE: Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - Launch/Mission Updates - June, 2013
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 06/23/2013 07:21 am
With the window until the SZ-10 crew are due to land closing by the hour, it's starting to look as if the re-docking may happen immediately before return to earth, and that they may not, therefore, actually re-enter TG-1?

This would mean that they only need to close TG-1 down once and would remove the need to plan for a contingency re-entry plan in the event of problems during the docking test. Thoughts anyone?

Unfortunately you (and I and probably almost everyone guessing) were wrong; without any indications the crew undocked earlier today and completed the manual docking test with re-docking occurring at 02:07 UTC!  :o

Source: http://www.chinanews.com/gn/2013/06-23/4958747.shtml (http://www.chinanews.com/gn/2013/06-23/4958747.shtml)

Some more details:

Separation: 00:26 UTC
Manual control take over: 01:50 UTC
Contact: 02:00 UTC
Hard dock: 02:07 UTC

http://news.cntv.cn/2013/06/23/VIDE1371956880663387.shtml

This link is better  ;): http://news.cntv.cn/2013/06/23/VIDE1371963960726849.shtml (http://news.cntv.cn/2013/06/23/VIDE1371963960726849.shtml)
Title: Re: LIVE: Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - Launch/Mission Updates - June, 2013
Post by: tonyq on 06/23/2013 08:34 am
Well done the SZ-10 crew. However, unless I have completely misunderstood what I just watched, that was more or less, a repeat of the SZ-9 manual docking? No fly around TG-1, no test of a different approach and not away from TG-1 for a longer period or a greater distance.

So, unless they do the fly around when they finally depart (on 26th?) that seems to have disappeared from the plan.
Title: Re: LIVE: Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - Launch/Mission Updates - June, 2013
Post by: Satori on 06/23/2013 11:27 am
Shenzhou-10 completes manual docking with space module (http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/sci/2013-06/23/c_132478611.htm).

Astronauts re-enter space module after successful manual docking (http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/sci/2013-06/23/c_132478864.htm).
Title: Re: LIVE: Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - Launch/Mission Updates - June, 2013
Post by: Satori on 06/23/2013 11:37 am
Did anyone noticed the piece of debris that floated away from SZ-10 after undocking?
Title: Re: LIVE: Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - Launch/Mission Updates - June, 2013
Post by: Lewis007 on 06/24/2013 08:43 am
The Shenzhou-10 taikonauts got a call from President Xi Jinping today.
more:
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/china/2013-06/24/c_132480215.htm

video:
http://english.cntv.cn/program/newsupdate/20130624/101391.shtml


Title: Re: LIVE: Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - Launch/Mission Updates - June, 2013
Post by: B. Hendrickx on 06/24/2013 07:07 pm
CCTV News reported today that Tiangong-1 will remain in service another three months, so we should see deorbit in September.
Title: Re: LIVE: Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - Launch/Mission Updates - June, 2013
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 06/25/2013 12:00 am
If all went as planned Shenzhou 10 should have undocked from Tiangong 1 about half an hour ago. Will report if that is confirmed.
Title: Re: LIVE: Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - Launch/Mission Updates - June, 2013
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 06/25/2013 01:41 am
If all went as planned Shenzhou 10 should have undocked from Tiangong 1 about half an hour ago. Will report if that is confirmed.

Looks like the crew isn't following the Shenzhou 9 time line, because I can't find any confirmation of undocking up till now. Anyway I think the undocking will happen in the next few hours, with the de-orbit burn at around 23:25 UTC and landing at 00:10 UTC tomorrow.
Title: Re: LIVE: Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - Launch/Mission Updates - June, 2013
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 06/25/2013 03:35 am
http://cmse.gov.cn/news/show.php?itemid=3378 (http://cmse.gov.cn/news/show.php?itemid=3378)

Hmm..... it seems that Shenzhou 10 may have already undocked! However this was only mentioned in passing......  ???

Hatch closure was at 21:07 UTC yesterday. Before that the crew thanked all the people who made their mission possible: http://news.cntv.cn/2013/06/25/VIDE1372126202980782.shtml (http://news.cntv.cn/2013/06/25/VIDE1372126202980782.shtml)
Title: Re: LIVE: Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - Launch/Mission Updates - June, 2013
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 06/25/2013 03:56 am
Finally confirmation that Shenzhou 10 did undock a few hours ago (exact time not yet known), and then made a fly around of TG-1 around the V-bar: http://tech.sina.com.cn/d/2013-06-25/11348476707.shtml (http://tech.sina.com.cn/d/2013-06-25/11348476707.shtml)
Title: Re: LIVE: Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - Launch/Mission Updates - June, 2013
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 06/25/2013 06:08 am
Finally confirmation that Shenzhou 10 did undock a few hours ago (exact time not yet known), and then made a fly around of TG-1 around the V-bar: http://tech.sina.com.cn/d/2013-06-25/11348476707.shtml (http://tech.sina.com.cn/d/2013-06-25/11348476707.shtml)

Video of the undocking and animation of the fly around (http://news.cntv.cn/2013/06/25/VIDE1372137122877146.shtml) - apparently both SZ-10 and TG-1 made a flip over on the V-bar, then SZ-10 made a re-approach towards the TG-1 docking port.

I'm still trying to find the undocking time - looks like it was at ~23:00 UTC.
Title: Re: LIVE: Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - Launch/Mission Updates - June, 2013
Post by: JimO on 06/25/2013 06:13 am
"Low key" is one thing but hours of delay in announcing key mission events is quite another. But until we get used to the new deliberate news tempo, there's no use speculating on hidden meanings. We just wait.

Based on orbital path, when was the landing supposed to be? 

ADD -- Review of last missions reminds me it's 25 hours from undock to landing.
Title: Re: LIVE: Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - Launch/Mission Updates - June, 2013
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 06/25/2013 06:16 am
"Low key" is one thing but hours of delay in announcing key mission events is quite another. But until we get used to the new deliberate news tempo, there's no use speculating on hidden meanings. We just wait.

Based on orbital path, when was the landing supposed to be? 

Robert Christy put that down as around 00:10 UTC tomorrow - with the de-orbit burn at around 23:25 UTC: http://www.zarya.info/Diaries/China/Shenzhou/10/Shenzhou10Diary.php (http://www.zarya.info/Diaries/China/Shenzhou/10/Shenzhou10Diary.php)
Title: Re: LIVE: Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - Launch/Mission Updates - June, 2013
Post by: Lewis007 on 06/25/2013 07:22 am
Finally confirmation that Shenzhou 10 did undock a few hours ago (exact time not yet known), and then made a fly around of TG-1 around the V-bar: http://tech.sina.com.cn/d/2013-06-25/11348476707.shtml (http://tech.sina.com.cn/d/2013-06-25/11348476707.shtml)

Xinhua reports that Shenzhou-10 actually redocked with the Tiangong station after the fly-around.
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/sci/2013-06/25/c_132484920.htm
Title: Re: LIVE: Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - Launch/Mission Updates - June, 2013
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 06/25/2013 09:31 am
Undocking was at 23:05 UTC: http://scitech.people.com.cn/n/2013/0625/c1007-21964846.html (http://scitech.people.com.cn/n/2013/0625/c1007-21964846.html)

Finally confirmation that Shenzhou 10 did undock a few hours ago (exact time not yet known), and then made a fly around of TG-1 around the V-bar: http://tech.sina.com.cn/d/2013-06-25/11348476707.shtml (http://tech.sina.com.cn/d/2013-06-25/11348476707.shtml)

Xinhua reports that Shenzhou-10 actually redocked with the Tiangong station after the fly-around.
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/sci/2013-06/25/c_132484920.htm


All of the Chinese news reports mentioned a re-rendezvous, but not a re-docking. I will have to check, but I don't think there was a re-docking.
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Post by: B. Hendrickx on 06/25/2013 09:41 am
The latest CCTV (English) newscast  at 9.00 UTC says Shenzhou-9 redocked after the fly-around :

"They flew above the Tiangong-1 module and redocked with the spacelab on the other side. This was the first time the maneuver was tested".

I presume that "on the other side" shouldn't be taken too literally, because Tiangoing has only one docking port.

The newscast confirmed that landing is set for 8 a.m. Beijing time Wednesday morning and promised live coverage of the event.
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Post by: tonyq on 06/25/2013 10:00 am
Undocking was at 23:05 UTC: http://scitech.people.com.cn/n/2013/0625/c1007-21964846.html (http://scitech.people.com.cn/n/2013/0625/c1007-21964846.html)

Finally confirmation that Shenzhou 10 did undock a few hours ago (exact time not yet known), and then made a fly around of TG-1 around the V-bar: http://tech.sina.com.cn/d/2013-06-25/11348476707.shtml (http://tech.sina.com.cn/d/2013-06-25/11348476707.shtml)

Xinhua reports that Shenzhou-10 actually redocked with the Tiangong station after the fly-around.
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/sci/2013-06/25/c_132484920.htm


All of the Chinese news reports mentioned a re-rendezvous, but not a re-docking. I will have to check, but I don't think there was a re-docking.

Wasn't it previously said that the TG-1 docking port was certified for six dockings, which had already been used up (two prior dockings by each of SZ8/9/10), so a re-docking seems very unlikely. 
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Post by: Liss on 06/25/2013 10:11 am
Quote
A0790/13 - A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED,ALL ACFT ARE PROHIBITED TO FLY INTO THE AREA. LATERAL LIMITS: IN CHINESE TERRITORY OF FOLLOW AREA: N4304E10241-N4318E11403-N4209E11405-N4021E10259 BACK TO START. VERTICAL LIMITS: GND-UNL. GND - UNL, 25 JUN 23:40 2013 UNTIL 26 JUN 00:21 2013. CREATED: 25 JUN 03:27 2013

A0791/13 - THE FLW SEGMENTS OF ATS RTE CLSD: 1.G218:TUMURTAI VOR 'TMR'-POLHO. 2. A575: INTIK-MANSA 3. B458: EREN VOR 'ERE'-TUMURTAI VOR 'TMR' 4. W32: INTIK-HOHHOT VOR 'HET'. 5. B208 :NIXAL-HOHHOT VOR 'HET'. 6. G343: NIXAL-TUMURTAI VOR 'TMR'. 7. B330: MORIT-YABRAI VOR 'YBL'. 8. W66: EJINAQI VOR 'JNQ'-DENGKOU VOR 'DKO'. GND - UNL, 25 JUN 23:40 2013 UNTIL 26 JUN 00:21 2013. CREATED: 25 JUN 03:30 2013
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Post by: Zero-G on 06/25/2013 08:04 pm
Undocking was at 23:05 UTC: http://scitech.people.com.cn/n/2013/0625/c1007-21964846.html (http://scitech.people.com.cn/n/2013/0625/c1007-21964846.html)

Finally confirmation that Shenzhou 10 did undock a few hours ago (exact time not yet known), and then made a fly around of TG-1 around the V-bar: http://tech.sina.com.cn/d/2013-06-25/11348476707.shtml (http://tech.sina.com.cn/d/2013-06-25/11348476707.shtml)

Xinhua reports that Shenzhou-10 actually redocked with the Tiangong station after the fly-around.
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/sci/2013-06/25/c_132484920.htm


All of the Chinese news reports mentioned a re-rendezvous, but not a re-docking. I will have to check, but I don't think there was a re-docking.

Wasn't it previously said that the TG-1 docking port was certified for six dockings, which had already been used up (two prior dockings by each of SZ8/9/10), so a re-docking seems very unlikely. 

This report, which seems a little bit more detailed, does not mention a re-docking, just rendezvous: http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/china/2013-06/25/c_132485635.htm
Title: Re: LIVE: Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - Launch/Mission Updates - June, 2013
Post by: Yoxonaut on 06/25/2013 11:07 pm
Despite CCTV in English stating about 30 minutes ago that there was another docking I think they have been using the same report for some considerable time.  I am sure this is in error and there was no third docking.
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Post by: Yoxonaut on 06/25/2013 11:21 pm
CCTV in English have gone to live reporting from the hour. Is it too much to hope for better live coverage of the landing compared to lift-off. I will answer my own question - Yes, probably.
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Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 06/25/2013 11:21 pm
In attitude control phase pointing the ship towards retrograde.
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Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 06/25/2013 11:22 pm
Apparently the orbital module has already separated....
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Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 06/25/2013 11:23 pm
De-orbit burn started.
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Post by: Satori on 06/25/2013 11:25 pm
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Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 06/25/2013 11:25 pm
De-orbit burn complete.
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Post by: Satori on 06/25/2013 11:27 pm
Did they said that the deorbit burn had ended?
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Post by: Satori on 06/25/2013 11:27 pm
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Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 06/25/2013 11:28 pm
Did they said that the deorbit burn had ended?

Already finished 2 minutes ago.  ;)
Title: Re: LIVE: Long March 2F/G - Shenzhou-10 - Launch/Mission Updates - June, 2013
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 06/25/2013 11:44 pm
Service module separation.
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Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 06/25/2013 11:46 pm
Descent module now keeping its angle of attack for the long descent into the atmosphere....
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Post by: Satori on 06/25/2013 11:49 pm
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Post by: Satori on 06/25/2013 11:49 pm
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Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 06/25/2013 11:49 pm
In communication blackout.
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Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 06/25/2013 11:50 pm
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Post by: Satori on 06/25/2013 11:50 pm
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Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 06/25/2013 11:51 pm
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Post by: Satori on 06/25/2013 11:52 pm
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Post by: Satori on 06/25/2013 11:52 pm
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Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 06/25/2013 11:53 pm
On the looooong drop towards the landing zone...
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Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/25/2013 11:53 pm
Did they get comms back at all?
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Post by: Satori on 06/25/2013 11:53 pm
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Post by: Satori on 06/25/2013 11:54 pm
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Post by: Satori on 06/25/2013 11:54 pm
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Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 06/25/2013 11:54 pm
Service module burning up...
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Post by: Satori on 06/25/2013 11:56 pm
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Post by: Satori on 06/25/2013 11:56 pm
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Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 06/25/2013 11:57 pm
Drogue chute and main chute deployed!

Did they get comms back at all?

They certainly did!  :)
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Post by: Satori on 06/25/2013 11:57 pm
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Post by: Satori on 06/25/2013 11:57 pm
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Post by: Satori on 06/25/2013 11:58 pm
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Post by: Satori on 06/25/2013 11:59 pm
Ejection of the heat shield
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Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 06/25/2013 11:59 pm
Base heat shield separated.
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Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/25/2013 11:59 pm
Drogue chute and main chute deployed!

Did they get comms back at all?

They certainly did!  :)

Very good!
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Post by: Satori on 06/26/2013 12:00 am
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Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 06/26/2013 12:01 am
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Post by: Satori on 06/26/2013 12:01 am
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Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 06/26/2013 12:01 am
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Post by: Satori on 06/26/2013 12:02 am
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Post by: Satori on 06/26/2013 12:02 am
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Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 06/26/2013 12:02 am
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Post by: Satori on 06/26/2013 12:02 am
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Post by: Satori on 06/26/2013 12:04 am
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Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 06/26/2013 12:05 am
It's a bit cloudy there....
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Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 06/26/2013 12:06 am
Currently landing site prediction: 111.348 E 42.325 N
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Post by: Satori on 06/26/2013 12:07 am
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Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 06/26/2013 12:08 am
Successful landing at 00:07 UTC!  ;D
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Post by: Satori on 06/26/2013 12:08 am
Landing at 0007UTC.
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Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 06/26/2013 12:09 am
The descent module seems to be on its side...
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Post by: Satori on 06/26/2013 12:09 am
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Post by: Satori on 06/26/2013 12:11 am
It looks like the parachute was dragging the capsule on the ground...
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Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/26/2013 12:11 am
Great news. Very good coverage guys.
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Post by: Satori on 06/26/2013 12:11 am
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Post by: Satori on 06/26/2013 12:12 am
Helicopter already near the capsule.
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Post by: Satori on 06/26/2013 12:13 am
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Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 06/26/2013 12:14 am
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Post by: Satori on 06/26/2013 12:14 am
Rescue teams on site.
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Post by: Satori on 06/26/2013 12:14 am
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Post by: Satori on 06/26/2013 12:14 am
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Post by: Satori on 06/26/2013 12:15 am
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Post by: Satori on 06/26/2013 12:16 am
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Post by: Satori on 06/26/2013 12:16 am
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Post by: Satori on 06/26/2013 12:17 am
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Post by: Satori on 06/26/2013 12:17 am
Preparing the set for retrieving the crew...
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Post by: Satori on 06/26/2013 12:18 am
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Post by: Satori on 06/26/2013 12:18 am
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Post by: Satori on 06/26/2013 12:19 am
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Post by: Satori on 06/26/2013 12:20 am
Get out of the way!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: Satori on 06/26/2013 12:21 am
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Post by: Satori on 06/26/2013 12:22 am
Hatch open at 0021UTC.
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Post by: Satori on 06/26/2013 12:22 am
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Post by: Satori on 06/26/2013 12:23 am
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Post by: Satori on 06/26/2013 12:24 am
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Post by: Satori on 06/26/2013 12:25 am
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Post by: Satori on 06/26/2013 12:26 am
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Post by: Satori on 06/26/2013 12:27 am
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Post by: Satori on 06/26/2013 12:28 am
Four and a half people inside SZ-10! :)

Edit: Five people inside! ;)
Title: Re: LIVE: Shenzhou-10 - Launch/Docking Mission/Landing Updates - June, 2013
Post by: Satori on 06/26/2013 12:31 am
Why the hell they put those guards guarding the field? There is no other people there besides the rescue teams...
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Post by: Satori on 06/26/2013 12:32 am
Taikonauts reported to be in good shape and feeling good!
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Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/26/2013 12:34 am
EOM Article, by Rui and myself:
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2013/06/three-person-crew-chinas-shenzhou-10-return-earth/
Title: Re: LIVE: Shenzhou-10 - Launch/Docking Mission/Landing Updates - June, 2013
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 06/26/2013 12:50 am
Actual landing site is 111° 21' 26" East, 42° 19' 44" North, per MCC Beijing call-outs just after landing.
Title: Re: LIVE: Shenzhou-10 - Launch/Docking Mission/Landing Updates - June, 2013
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 06/26/2013 01:12 am
That's, um, a bit too close to home, isn't it?  :o
Title: Re: LIVE: Shenzhou-10 - Launch/Docking Mission/Landing Updates - June, 2013
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 06/26/2013 01:28 am
Nie Haisheng almost ready to get out.
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Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 06/26/2013 01:32 am
Nie Haisheng now out.
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Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 06/26/2013 01:36 am
Wang Yaping now out.
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Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 06/26/2013 01:39 am
Actual landing site is 111° 21' 26" East, 42° 19' 44" North, per MCC Beijing call-outs just after landing.
Title: Re: LIVE: Shenzhou-10 - Launch/Docking Mission/Landing Updates - June, 2013
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 06/26/2013 01:42 am
Zhang Xiaoguang has also left the descent module.
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Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 06/26/2013 01:43 am
Welcome back!
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Post by: Yoxonaut on 06/26/2013 01:47 am
I can relax now they are all out of the descent module. I must go to bed. Thanks guys for all your posts.
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Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 06/26/2013 03:04 am
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Post by: Artyom. on 06/26/2013 04:33 am
Сongrats to China for a successful mission :) !
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Post by: Soheil on 06/26/2013 09:03 am
Сongrats !  ;)
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Post by: Lewis007 on 06/26/2013 10:41 am
A video (attached) has been released with Wang Yaping aboard the TG station, holding some cards with messages. Is the "surprise" that was talked about before the mission, which had been left behind by Liu Yang?

Can someone perhaps translate these messages?
Title: Re: LIVE: Shenzhou-10 - Launch/Docking Mission/Landing Updates - June, 2013
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 06/26/2013 10:58 am
A video (attached) has been released with Wang Yaping aboard the TG station, holding some cards with messages. Is the "surprise" that was talked about before the mission, which had been left behind by Liu Yang?

Can someone perhaps translate these messages?

Yup!  :)

First card from Liu Yang: "I hope that the comrades will complete their missions safely and successfully!"
Second card from Liu Wang: "Welcome to Tiangong 1!"
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Post by: Phillip Clark on 06/26/2013 11:24 am
The Russians did a similar thing before they had Mir permanently occupied.   After returning from the Soyuz 32 (launched) mission Ryumin was drafted into the Soyuz 35 mission as a result of Lebedev injuring himself.   of course Ryumin was greeted by his own messages left for the next crew!
Title: Re: LIVE: Shenzhou-10 - Launch/Docking Mission/Landing Updates - June, 2013
Post by: JimO on 06/26/2013 12:03 pm
I am assuming that that the light brown buildings seen in the final descent stills, and on the horizon in at least one of the crew-waving-from-outside-chairs stills, are temporary structures assembled at the aim point for the recovery team? It appears they touched down perhaps 200 meters from those buildings [my guess]. Any other views showing the buildings? Any accounts from people on the ground there as the vehicle came down from almost directly overhead?
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Post by: tonyq on 06/26/2013 12:15 pm
A video (attached) has been released with Wang Yaping aboard the TG station, holding some cards with messages. Is the "surprise" that was talked about before the mission, which had been left behind by Liu Yang?

Can someone perhaps translate these messages?

Yup!  :)

First card from Liu Yang: "I hope that the comrades will complete their missions safely and successfully!"
Second card from Liu Wang: "Welcome to Tiangong 1!"


Hmm.....a couple of cards with messages written on them. I'd imagine that Wang Yaping was a bit disappointed by this 'surprise.'

The inference at the start of the mission was that they were specifically for Wang Yaping implying that they knew twelve months ago, that she would be on the next mission, but in the event, they were rather more general. 
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Post by: heinkel174 on 06/26/2013 12:21 pm
I am assuming that that the light brown buildings seen in the final descent stills, and on the horizon in at least one of the crew-waving-from-outside-chairs stills, are temporary structures assembled at the aim point for the recovery team? It appears they touched down perhaps 200 meters from those buildings [my guess]. Any other views showing the buildings? Any accounts from people on the ground there as the vehicle came down from almost directly overhead?

They are most likely cottages of local mongols.
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Post by: JimO on 06/26/2013 12:48 pm
They are most likely cottages of local mongols.

I would have thought so too. But do you see the busses?
 
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Post by: Zero-G on 06/26/2013 01:23 pm
They are most likely cottages of local mongols.

I would have thought so too. But do you see the busses?
 

I can see no buses in the final descent stills, just a car and a truck. The light-brown structures seem to be permanent farm buildings.
If you enter the landing coordinates given by MCC Beijing as 42° 19'  44" 111° 21'  26" in Google Earth or Maps, you can see that there are some farms about one kilometer to the south-west of the landing site.
Title: Re: LIVE: Shenzhou-10 - Launch/Docking Mission/Landing Updates - June, 2013
Post by: Lewis007 on 06/26/2013 04:32 pm
A video (attached) has been released with Wang Yaping aboard the TG station, holding some cards with messages. Is the "surprise" that was talked about before the mission, which had been left behind by Liu Yang?

Can someone perhaps translate these messages?

Yup!  :)

First card from Liu Yang: "I hope that the comrades will complete their missions safely and successfully!"
Second card from Liu Wang: "Welcome to Tiangong 1!"


Thanks !

For all those interested, a replay of the landing (in total more than 1 hour) can be seen on the English-language CCTV here (the first being re-entry + landing, the second being the crew exiting the capsule):
http://english.cntv.cn/program/newsupdate/20130626/101450.shtml
and
http://english.cntv.cn/program/newsupdate/20130626/102413.shtml

Title: Re: LIVE: Shenzhou-10 - Launch/Docking Mission/Landing Updates - June, 2013
Post by: Spiff on 06/26/2013 05:17 pm
They are most likely cottages of local mongols.

I would have thought so too. But do you see the busses?
 

There is also cattle on the right hand side of the building. I wouldn't expect cattle near a temporary 'rescue party' structure. I assume it is indeed a permanent farm.
Title: Re: LIVE: Shenzhou-10 - Launch/Docking Mission/Landing Updates - June, 2013
Post by: Moe Grills on 06/26/2013 07:13 pm
  OK! So they are safely down.

So what happens to the Tiangong 'space station' and when?

Will it be kept up so the Chinese could practice orbital transfer between space stations when they launch there next space station?

I recall that only the Soviets accomplished such a feat with the Mir and
Salyut 7.
Title: Re: LIVE: Shenzhou-10 - Launch/Docking Mission/Landing Updates - June, 2013
Post by: beidou on 06/26/2013 07:31 pm
Per 9ifly forum: http://bbs.9ifly.cn/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=12282&fromuid=24484

An HD(720p) video of landing record can be downloaded from a chinese "dropbox"
http://pan.baidu.com/share/link?shareid=173760115&uk=1027044056&third=2
Title: Re: LIVE: Shenzhou-10 - Launch/Docking Mission/Landing Updates - June, 2013
Post by: jcm on 06/27/2013 01:26 am
The orbital module has now been cataloged as 39193 / 2013-029H in a 332 x 337 km orbit.
Title: Re: LIVE: Shenzhou-10 - Launch/Docking Mission/Landing Updates - June, 2013
Post by: Paolo on 06/27/2013 07:09 am
Does anyone know the exact time of the mission Shenzhou 10 (hours, minutes, and seconds) ?
Many thanks
Title: Re: LIVE: Shenzhou-10 - Launch/Docking Mission/Landing Updates - June, 2013
Post by: Lewis007 on 06/27/2013 07:34 am
The taikonauts have received a hero's welcome at Beijing's China Astronaut Research and Training Center.
Their capsule is still enroute.

Photos here: http://www.chinanews.com/tp/hd2011/2013/06-27/218139.shtml

Title: Re: LIVE: Shenzhou-10 - Launch/Docking Mission/Landing Updates - June, 2013
Post by: Lewis007 on 06/27/2013 07:37 am
Does anyone know the exact time of the mission Shenzhou 10 (hours, minutes, and seconds) ?
Many thanks

The mission duration is reported to be 14 days, 14 hours, 29 minutes, and 3 seconds according to this site.
http://www.astronaut.ru/flights/sh-10.htm

Title: Re: LIVE: Shenzhou-10 - Launch/Docking Mission/Landing Updates - June, 2013
Post by: Apollo-phill on 06/27/2013 08:15 am
  OK! So they are safely down.

So what happens to the Tiangong 'space station' and when?

Will it be kept up so the Chinese could practice orbital transfer between space stations when they launch there next space station?

I recall that only the Soviets accomplished such a feat with the Mir and
Salyut 7.


When I asked a Great Wall Industry company guy on their Paris Air show stand last weekend he said they would "de-orbit" Tiangong-1 but would not give any more detail.

Whether they will or not now remains to be seen !

Incidentally the Chinese companies and the Russian companies involved with spaceflight and who had stands at Paris 50th airshow were very helpful on public day. In comparison, a huge swathe of stands in the USA section were closed off all day on Saturday and some were being dismantled !


Apollo-Phill
Title: Re: LIVE: Shenzhou-10 - Launch/Docking Mission/Landing Updates - June, 2013
Post by: Apollo-phill on 06/27/2013 08:16 am
And, of course, ESA and Arianspace had great displays :-))

Apollo-phill

Title: Re: LIVE: Shenzhou-10 - Launch/Docking Mission/Landing Updates - June, 2013
Post by: anik on 06/27/2013 11:14 am
As for "the third docking" of Shenzhou-10:

http://en.cmse.gov.cn/show.php?contentid=1289

"At 07:05 a.m., Shenzhou 10 spaceship successfully separated from Tiangong 1 target vehicle and withdrew to a berthing point a certain distance away. After that, Shenzhou 10 spaceship underwent orbit transfer control according to preset procedures and flied around Tiangong 1 target vehicle from its top area to its back area. During the process, under the accurate control of the ground staff, Shenzhou 10 spaceship adopted a forward-flying position while Tiangong 1 target vehicle adopted a backward-flying position. Controlled by the ground staff, Shenzhou 10 spaceship started to approach towards Tiangong 1 target vehicle and completed short-distance rendezvous smoothly"

http://en.cmse.gov.cn/show.php?contentid=1291

"At 07:05, Jun. 25th, Shenzhou X spacecraft undocked from Tiangong I automatically, then the spacecraft conducted some technical tests such as fly-around and rendezvous test"
Title: Re: LIVE: Shenzhou-10 - Launch/Docking Mission/Landing Updates - June, 2013
Post by: ras391 on 06/27/2013 12:54 pm
Are we saying that the Commander. basically, has no control of the Shenzhou spacecraft, the ground does all the work?
Title: Re: LIVE: Shenzhou-10 - Launch/Docking Mission/Landing Updates - June, 2013
Post by: Lewis007 on 06/29/2013 11:34 am
The Shenzhou-10 capsule was opened during a ceremony yesterday, with various items being recovered (experiment samples and ceremonial items).

Pix: http://www.chinanews.com/tp/hd2011/2013/06-28/218777.shtml
Title: Re: LIVE: Shenzhou-10 - Launch/Docking Mission/Landing Updates - June, 2013
Post by: Lewis007 on 07/11/2013 06:47 am
The three taikonauts spoke with the media today (postflight quarantine has ended).
http://www.chinanews.com/tp/hd2011/2013/07-11/223220.shtml
Title: Re: LIVE: Shenzhou-10 - Launch/Docking Mission/Landing Updates - June, 2013
Post by: Lewis007 on 07/28/2013 11:02 am
The Shenzhou-10 crew met President Xi Jinping during an official ceremony on July 26. They also received several medals.
http://english.cntv.cn/20130726/105599.shtml
http://english.cntv.cn/20130726/104611.shtml

Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhIwhJTAEw8
Title: Re: LIVE: Shenzhou-10 - Launch/Docking Mission/Landing Updates - June, 2013
Post by: Liss on 07/29/2013 04:44 am
Umm, that's interesting. There are nine astronauts in the center: Wang Yaping, Nie Haiseng and Zhang Xiaoguang (blue flight coats); Jing Haipeng, Fei Junlong and Zhai Zhigang; Liu Yang, Liu Boming and Li Wang. Six of them are the two prime crews, and the other three -- Fei Junlong, Liu Boming and Zhai Zhigang -- may be the SZ-10 backup crew.

The alternate idea is that the nine are all flown astronauts (with the exception of Yang Liwei who is absent). Konstantin Lantratov found several other known astronauts around the nine.
Title: Re: LIVE: Shenzhou-10 - Launch/Docking Mission/Landing Updates - June, 2013
Post by: Lewis007 on 08/09/2013 07:27 am
Post-flight event for Shenzhou-10 crew (during "root seeking" summer camp).
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/photo/2013-08/03/c_132599604_3.htm
Title: Re: LIVE: Shenzhou-10 - Launch/Docking Mission/Landing Updates - June, 2013
Post by: Lewis007 on 08/29/2013 10:52 am
On August 20, the Shenzhou-10 crew received the medals awarded to them last month.
http://gbtimes.com/focus/science-technology/news/shenzhou-10-astronauts-receive-medals-held-role-models
Title: Re: LIVE: Shenzhou-10 - Launch/Docking Mission/Landing Updates - June, 2013
Post by: Joachim on 08/31/2013 08:42 am
Has someone a hi res photo of the mission patch?
Title: Re: LIVE: Shenzhou-10 - Launch/Docking Mission/Landing Updates - June, 2013
Post by: Lewis007 on 09/07/2013 02:11 pm
Wang Yaping had another appearance as teacher of science, this time on the ground.
http://usa.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2013-09/01/content_16935971.htm
Title: Re: LIVE: Shenzhou-10 - Launch/Docking Mission/Landing Updates - June, 2013
Post by: SMS on 09/07/2013 02:17 pm
Has someone a hi res photo of the mission patch?

I will try to ask my friend during his visit at Beijing (http://www.iac2013.org/dct/page/1) ???
Title: Re: LIVE: Shenzhou-10 - Launch/Docking Mission/Landing Updates - June, 2013
Post by: tonyq on 11/04/2013 10:35 am
The SZ-10 crew have received their cash awards, from the Tsang Hin-chi Space Development Fund, which has rewarded each returning Chinese space crew on completion of their missions, since 2003.

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/china/2013-11/03/c_132855112.htm

Although it doesn't explicitly say so here, based on previous flights they will receive approx. $150k each, which I'd imagine is quite a tidy sum to the average PLAAF pilot.
Title: Re: LIVE: Shenzhou-10 - Launch/Docking Mission/Landing Updates - June, 2013
Post by: Phillip Clark on 03/13/2016 08:37 am
Just wondering ..... was a mass announced for Shenzhou 10?   I know that SZ 8 was said to be 8,082 kg.