I have worked in several industries over my career. One common thread I noted is that all corporations are loath to publicize safety issues, including accidents and incidents.
3) One of my end of year feature articles is going to be based an overview (no restrictions on it) of all the Dragon flights so far, where all the little faults are overviewed. They did the same with the ASAP too. So how they act with the media is not the same as how open they are with the likes of ASAP, NASA, etc.Bloody heck, everything revolves back to SpaceX!
In my opinion SNC shot themselves in the foot by not releasing the footage.
In my opinion SNC shot themselves in the foot by not releasing the footage.That Proton explosion was on the nightly news around the world.All press is good press, people would say "Hey what is that cool space plane?" and find out more.Anyway the article was great and covers everything about the test.
Sandra Bullock would have gotten that gear down.
I already posted this on the Gravity thread, but it's too good not to put it here as well.In this Washington Post article, a commenter said:QuoteSandra Bullock would have gotten that gear down.
Sure, she looks a mess on the outside, but inside is what counts.
Some of the arrogance displayed in this thread is unbelievable, quick tip: Just because you paid for a product or service does NOT entitle you to see everything related to that product or service, it all depends on the contract. i.e. just because you paid a few hundred dollars for a plane ticket does not give you the right to see the cockpit during flight operations, let alone viewing Boeing or Airbus' test flights. NASA signed the contract on behalf of the tax payers, and I think we can safely assume it does not include a clause for public disclosure of test flight videos. If this is the case, then SNC does not own you, the public or the tax payer anything, as long as they are executing the contract, they're doing what they're supposed to do.
Quote from: edkyle99 on 10/30/2013 07:07 pmQuote from: woods170 on 10/30/2013 03:00 pmAnd your analogy to STS-51L does not apply. That was supposedly an operational flight. The early flights of Falcon 1 (SpaceX sitting on that footage) and the recent Dreamchaser free flight were test flights. Different rules with regards to PR generally apply to testflights, particularly when the test-subject is born out of a non-public project.Was CRS-2 an operational flight? Someone hit the big red button during that mission. - Ed KyleWhat red button? When?
Quote from: woods170 on 10/30/2013 03:00 pmAnd your analogy to STS-51L does not apply. That was supposedly an operational flight. The early flights of Falcon 1 (SpaceX sitting on that footage) and the recent Dreamchaser free flight were test flights. Different rules with regards to PR generally apply to testflights, particularly when the test-subject is born out of a non-public project.Was CRS-2 an operational flight? Someone hit the big red button during that mission. - Ed Kyle
And your analogy to STS-51L does not apply. That was supposedly an operational flight. The early flights of Falcon 1 (SpaceX sitting on that footage) and the recent Dreamchaser free flight were test flights. Different rules with regards to PR generally apply to testflights, particularly when the test-subject is born out of a non-public project.
Quote from: Lars_J on 10/30/2013 08:14 pmQuote from: edkyle99 on 10/30/2013 07:07 pmQuote from: woods170 on 10/30/2013 03:00 pmAnd your analogy to STS-51L does not apply. That was supposedly an operational flight. The early flights of Falcon 1 (SpaceX sitting on that footage) and the recent Dreamchaser free flight were test flights. Different rules with regards to PR generally apply to testflights, particularly when the test-subject is born out of a non-public project.Was CRS-2 an operational flight? Someone hit the big red button during that mission. - Ed KyleWhat red button? When?SpaceX cut the video feed without explanation when Dragon failed to pressurize its RCS just after it separated from the second stage. On previous flights it maintained video until the solar arrays deployed. We were left wondering what happened for some time until Elon Musk himself provided an update via. Twitter. Even then we didn't know the real issue. I raised this example of a commercial firm cutting off the video when failure occurred while asking why we should expect any different during a crewed flight performed for NASA by the same, or by any other, commercial firm. - Ed Kyle
The video feed lasted as long after launch as it had on COTS-2 and CRS-1. We just didn't see the solar arrays deploy because they decided to wait a few orbits to do that.
Quote from: Jason1701 on 10/31/2013 04:33 amThe video feed lasted as long after launch as it had on COTS-2 and CRS-1. We just didn't see the solar arrays deploy because they decided to wait a few orbits to do that.Video was purposely cut off. That's the point.- Ed Kyle
Please make a new thread about this; space censorship et cetera or something like that.There you can talk about SpaceX feeds and why Orbital is communist for not showing dream chaser till it came to a full stop.