Discussion: How to structure European launch schedule topics?

[Rik ISS-fan]

I've started this topic because I think we need to set up a new topic for the European orbital launch schedule.
And I would like to increase the reliability of the schedule.

Currently the Arianespace launch schedule is at page 147, so it's a long topic.
Arianespace is the (launch service provider subsidiary of ArianeGroup [& Maia space?])
The European launch market is changing. New launch service providers are likely to enter the market.
The real reason to require the new topic is the decision to transition launch marketing for Vega C (and E) from Arianespace to Avio themselves. From end 2025, Avio will be the launch service provider for Vega C (and E) launches.
So from 2026 this topic should only cover Ariane 6 and possibly Maia space launches.

The previous post #2931 by Salo is about a order for 25 Latitude Zephyr launches. But there isn't a relation between Arianespace and Latitude. So for the Arianespace launch schedule it's offtopic. But it's relevant for the European launch schedule.

I think we need to discuss how to structure the new European launch schedule topic. I want to do this in this (short existing) discussion topic.

Some thinks I think could be improved are:
- Clarification of contracted launches and scheduled launch time for satellites that aren't contracted jet.
- include satellite mass and orbital destination. Espacially for scheduled satellites, because this determines the launchers that could be used to perform the launch.
- What launch site is planned to be used, because a lot more options might be possible.

Some decision points.
- Are we going to set up a single topic with multiple schedules or multiple topics?
- What definition of European are we going to use? continental; ESA member; EU? Do we include UK and Norway or not.
- What launchers do we include and what do we exclude?
- Do we only include launches from CSG France Guiana, or also from Andoya; Sutherland; Saxavord ; (unlikely Esrange) possibly Azoren? This intersects with the decision for one or multiple topics.
- How do we transition from the Arianespace schedule topic to the new European launch schedule topic?

I would like your input on the next European launch schedule topic. So please join this discussion and share your ideas about this.

[Steven Pietrobon]

I think a renaming is all that is required. The topic "ESA Launchers - Ariane/Vega" could be renamed to "European Launchers - Ariane/etc." and the thread "Arianespace launch schedule" renamed to "European launch schedule". Europe doesn't launch enough to require anything more.

[Hobbes-22]

Related, but nothing was done with my proposal: Forum sections - should we reorganize the ESA section?