Hmm, latter half of the decade when block I probably won’t fly until 2024? I suspect end of the decade is more likely for block II.Quote"Ariane 6 Block II" is the name Arianespace is giving to the upgraded Ariane 6 rocket they're envisioning for the later half of the decade. 20% increase in performance to LEO with new upper stage and solid rocket motors.
"Ariane 6 Block II" is the name Arianespace is giving to the upgraded Ariane 6 rocket they're envisioning for the later half of the decade. 20% increase in performance to LEO with new upper stage and solid rocket motors.
Quote from: FutureSpaceTourist on 10/19/2022 03:26 pmHmm, latter half of the decade when block I probably won’t fly until 2024? I suspect end of the decade is more likely for block II.Quote"Ariane 6 Block II" is the name Arianespace is giving to the upgraded Ariane 6 rocket they're envisioning for the later half of the decade. 20% increase in performance to LEO with new upper stage and solid rocket motors.Space is hard.
Sorry but ArianeGroup, CNES and Avio really have to explain how what caused their pis por performance.If ESA/European memberstate ministers are wise (they are not) they demand this explanation. Without proper explanation no additional funding should go to project from these companies.
Is there anyone on here that is seriously expecting Ariane 6 to actually fly in any part of 2023, because I am sure not.
Quote from: GWR64 on 10/19/2022 03:21 pmQuote from: FutureSpaceTourist on 10/19/2022 03:09 pmQuelle surprise (not)https://twitter.com/chrisg_nsf/status/1582750512784769031Quote#Ariane6 first flight now expected no earlier than "last quarter 2023" according to ESA, ArianeGroup in update to media just now.(Credit: @brickmack)That means first operational Arianespace Ariane 6 launch NET Q2/2024! ( x Galileo, CSO-3, Optus-11, Viasat ... ? )Think the phone at Hawthorne is getting a lot of calls to secured future launch slots.
Quote from: FutureSpaceTourist on 10/19/2022 03:09 pmQuelle surprise (not)https://twitter.com/chrisg_nsf/status/1582750512784769031Quote#Ariane6 first flight now expected no earlier than "last quarter 2023" according to ESA, ArianeGroup in update to media just now.(Credit: @brickmack)That means first operational Arianespace Ariane 6 launch NET Q2/2024! ( x Galileo, CSO-3, Optus-11, Viasat ... ? )
Quelle surprise (not)https://twitter.com/chrisg_nsf/status/1582750512784769031Quote#Ariane6 first flight now expected no earlier than "last quarter 2023" according to ESA, ArianeGroup in update to media just now.(Credit: @brickmack)
#Ariane6 first flight now expected no earlier than "last quarter 2023" according to ESA, ArianeGroup in update to media just now.(Credit: @brickmack)
Quote from: Rik ISS-fan on 10/19/2022 10:52 pmSorry but ArianeGroup, CNES and Avio really have to explain how what caused their pis por performance.If ESA/European memberstate ministers are wise (they are not) they demand this explanation. Without proper explanation no additional funding should go to project from these companies. So NO THEMIS. Contract the France startup's Opus Aerospace and Sirius Space Services, to use the first stage of their microlaunchers to develop a reusable first stage demonstrator....Emphasis mine.Why not the German companies Rocket Factory Augsburg, Isar Aerospace or HyImpulse? They're far more advanced than these french startups and their launchers are much more capable.
Sorry but ArianeGroup, CNES and Avio really have to explain how what caused their pis por performance.If ESA/European memberstate ministers are wise (they are not) they demand this explanation. Without proper explanation no additional funding should go to project from these companies. So NO THEMIS. Contract the France startup's Opus Aerospace and Sirius Space Services, to use the first stage of their microlaunchers to develop a reusable first stage demonstrator....
Has anyone any info on the Callisto reusable rocket demonstrator. Wasn't that supposed to launch in 2020?What happned with this project from CNES, DLR & JAXA?
Ariane boss insists Europe’s new rocket can compete with Musk’s SpaceXQuote from: politico.euThe new Ariane 6 rocket system will be competitive with Elon Musk’s SpaceX despite it lagging behind on reusable technology, said André-Hubert Roussel, CEO of Ariane Group, which runs the aerospace project.The long-delayed Ariane 6 system should finally launch in the fourth quarter of 2023, and Roussel said that while it won't include such cost-slashing technology as SpaceX it could eventually be possible to carry out a launch every two weeks, though only up to 12 in a full calendar year.“Ariane 6 is the guarantee of autonomous access to space for Europe,” Roussel told POLITICO, while confirming tentative plans to carry out a maiden launch of the next-generation rocket by the close of next year, though the first full-scale commercial launch will only happen in 2024.
The new Ariane 6 rocket system will be competitive with Elon Musk’s SpaceX despite it lagging behind on reusable technology, said André-Hubert Roussel, CEO of Ariane Group, which runs the aerospace project.The long-delayed Ariane 6 system should finally launch in the fourth quarter of 2023, and Roussel said that while it won't include such cost-slashing technology as SpaceX it could eventually be possible to carry out a launch every two weeks, though only up to 12 in a full calendar year.“Ariane 6 is the guarantee of autonomous access to space for Europe,” Roussel told POLITICO, while confirming tentative plans to carry out a maiden launch of the next-generation rocket by the close of next year, though the first full-scale commercial launch will only happen in 2024.
Fab overview of the Ariane 6 delay by @ESpaceflight:https://www.getrevue.co/profile/andrewparsonson/issues/who-should-take-responsibility-for-ariane-6-delay-1412780 "As a father who is trying to teach my daughter to accept responsibility ... I am so very disappointed with how little of that attribute was shown by the adults in the room during the Ariane 6 update"
From the Updates thread, this photo of the new ship that will transport Ariane 6 parts to Kourou:Quite astonishing they're switching to an open-deck design. MV Toucan had a closed Ro-Ro deck. Or are those panels aft of the bridge covers for the Ro-ro deck ?
Quote from: Hobbes-22 on 12/22/2022 08:04 pmFrom the Updates thread, this photo of the new ship that will transport Ariane 6 parts to Kourou:Quite astonishing they're switching to an open-deck design. MV Toucan had a closed Ro-Ro deck. Or are those panels aft of the bridge covers for the Ro-ro deck ?Looks expensive.