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Re: Chinese Modular Space Station - circa 2020
« Reply #200 on: 10/05/2018 08:25 am »
According to the date on this image, that extension has been around since 2013!
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Re: Chinese Modular Space Station - circa 2020
« Reply #201 on: 10/07/2018 07:46 am »
https://ria.ru/space/20181004/1529951942.html
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SAMARA, Oct 4 — RIA Novosti. Scientists of the Samara national research University in cooperation with the Beijing Institute of space engineering are developing equipment for joint research on the Chinese space station, the press service of the Samara University said on Thursday.
press release - https://ssau.ru/news/15862-inzhenery-samarskogo-universiteta-razrabatyvayut-nauchnuyu-apparaturu-dlya-rossiysko-kitayskikh-issledovaniy

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Re: Chinese Modular Space Station - circa 2020
« Reply #202 on: 10/24/2018 09:32 pm »
https://vk.com/chinaspaceflight?w=wall-119361981_3345
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The 5th MANNED SPACE CONFERENCE 23-24.10.2018.
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Presentation of the Chinese modular space station "Tianhe"
October 23, 2018 at the 5th Scientific Conference on Astronautics, which takes place in the city of Xi'an (PRC), a presentation of the new Chinese modular space station Tianhe was held.
When assembled, it should become the third multi-module manned orbital station in the world (after the Mir and the ISS stations), much smaller, but generally similar in function to the Mir orbital station.
The first module of the station is planned to be placed into Earth orbit in 2020. Manned ships "Shenzhou", modules weighing 15-20 tons, and automatic cargo ships of supply "Tianzhou" with a payload of 6 tons should dock to this orbital station.
Completion of construction is scheduled for 2022 with a lifespan of 10-15 years. When fully assembled, without QC, it will weigh about 60-80 tons, about 2 times less in mass and size to the Soviet station complex "Mir" (124 tons) and 7 times less than ISS (417 tons).
In contrast to the one-module visited orbital spacecraft Tyangun-1 and Tyangun-2, the Chinese space station consists of several modules. The base module of the station has its name - "Tianhe". It is planned to connect two laboratory modules to it: "Wentian" and "Mentian" so that all three modules form the letter "T". The transport manned ship "Shenzhou" and the cargo ship "Tianzhou" will dock with this structure.
The basic Tianhe module has 5 docking stations, therefore, in the future, this configuration of the modular station can be expanded with additional modules.
It was decided to make the module with the Xuntian telescope autonomous, but it will have a common orbit with the station. And it will periodically moor to the axial docking station of the docking station for maintenance and replacement of scientific instruments.
A full-size mock-up of the Tianhe modular space station will be demonstrated at the aerospace show in Zhuhai in early November of this year.

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Re: Chinese Modular Space Station - circa 2020
« Reply #203 on: 11/06/2018 04:16 pm »
A real size replica was presented at the Zhuhai Airshow
Live: Tianhe space station's core module on display 中国“天和”号空间站核心舱首次亮相

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For the first time ever, China's manned space station program is on show! The core module of China's Tianhe space station is on display at the on-going Airshow China in Zhuhai. Join CGTN's Sun Ye for a close look at the larger-than-life spacecraft, find out what it is capable of and what the capsule means for China’s manned space mission.

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Re: Chinese Modular Space Station - circa 2020
« Reply #204 on: 11/07/2018 05:54 am »
That was pretty good. Core module is 4 m in diameter, 17 m long and more than 20 t in mass. The front module can accommodate from three to six taikonauts. The video showed the robotic arm assembling the station. The interior was off limits to the camera crew. That will be shown closer to launch.
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Re: Chinese Modular Space Station - circa 2020
« Reply #205 on: 11/07/2018 11:59 am »
That was pretty good. Core module is 4 m in diameter, 17 m long and more than 20 t in mass. The front module can accommodate from three to six taikonauts. The video showed the robotic arm assembling the station. The interior was off limits to the camera crew. That will be shown closer to launch.

What parts of the station would be assembled by the big arm?
I imagine a system similar to the soviet "Lyappa" would be used to move the autonomously docked modules from the front to the port and starboard docking ports. I see small grapple points on the node of the core module almost identical to Mir. But those would of course use their own little Lyappa-style arms, no need for a big ISS-style arm.

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Re: Chinese Modular Space Station - circa 2020
« Reply #206 on: 11/07/2018 08:30 pm »
That was pretty good. Core module is 4 m in diameter, 17 m long and more than 20 t in mass. The front module can accommodate from three to six taikonauts. The video showed the robotic arm assembling the station. The interior was off limits to the camera crew. That will be shown closer to launch.

What parts of the station would be assembled by the big arm?
I imagine a system similar to the soviet "Lyappa" would be used to move the autonomously docked modules from the front to the port and starboard docking ports. I see small grapple points on the node of the core module almost identical to Mir. But those would of course use their own little Lyappa-style arms, no need for a big ISS-style arm.
Visiting Vehicles (ie. Servicable telescope etc), external payloads.

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Re: Chinese Modular Space Station - circa 2020
« Reply #207 on: 11/07/2018 08:36 pm »
What parts of the station would be assembled by the big arm?
Visiting Vehicles (ie. Servicable telescope etc), external payloads.

I would have expected that the Xuntian telescope would have been capable of docking automatically without using a remote manipulator arm.   From Chinese animations we know that it will use the front longitudinal port, with the visiting Shenzhou relocated to the lower berthing unit.
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Re: Chinese Modular Space Station - circa 2020
« Reply #208 on: 11/07/2018 08:41 pm »
What parts of the station would be assembled by the big arm?
Visiting Vehicles (ie. Servicable telescope etc), external payloads.

I would have expected that the Xuntian telescope would have been capable of docking automatically without using a remote manipulator arm.   From Chinese animations we know that it will use the front longitudinal port, with the visiting Shenzhou relocated to the lower berthing unit.
should have been more detailed. Think HST servicing missions with RVA and EVA servicing. That is one of the reasons why it can dock.

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Chinese Modular Space Station - circa 2020
« Reply #209 on: 11/28/2018 06:41 am »
Physicist Wang Yifang, the mastermind behind the project, gives Nature an update on the ambitious project

Though extensively about Chinese plans for a future particle smasher this is also covered in it.

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The institute is also pitching to fly an experiment—a detector measuring highly energetic particles known as cosmic rays—on China’s crewed space station, set to launch in 2020. What will it do and how will it improve on existing experiments?

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We want to know where cosmic rays come from, and how they get such high energy. Answers to these questions will help us to understand the Universe. We would also like to use it to search for new particles, such as dark matter, which cannot yet be generated by accelerators on Earth. One of today’s best experiments for studying this is the Alpha Magnetic Spectrometer (AMS) on the International Space Station, which has not yet seen clear evidence of dark matter. That means we need experiments that can detect more particles, and at higher energies. The High Energy Cosmic Radiation Detection experiment will be able to study particles roughly ten times the energy of the AMS, and measure their energies with better resolution. We’ve almost finished our design and we’re now trying to get support from the Chinese government. We’re probably talking about US$200 million to $300 million for the detector. It’s on the list of candidates for possible projects for the future Chinese space station. We have to wait, but I am optimistic.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/inside-the-plans-for-chinese-mega-collider-that-will-dwarf-the-lhc/
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Re: Chinese Modular Space Station - circa 2020
« Reply #210 on: 03/04/2019 01:21 pm »
http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2019-03/04/c_137868589.htm
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BEIJING, March 4 (Xinhua) -- The China Manned Space Engineering Office (CMSEO) announced Monday that the core module of the country's space station, the Long March-5B carrier rocket and its payloads will be sent to the launch site in the second half of this year, to make preparations for the space station missions.
China is scheduled to complete the construction of the space station around 2022. It will be the country's space lab in long-term stable in-orbit operation.
The space station will have a core module and experiment modules, which are under development and will be launched into space by the Long March-5B.
Joint exercises will be carried out in the Wenchang Space Launch Center at the end of 2019 for the maiden flight of the Long March-5B.
Programs to select and train astronauts are underway...

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Re: Chinese Modular Space Station - circa 2020
« Reply #211 on: 03/05/2019 04:43 am »
Now that I think about it, the servicable telescope is also functionally a man-tended free flyer. Which would make it a fine candidate as a bus basis for commercial man-tended free flyers. As in getting chinese and global companies interested in commercial zero-g manufacturing. Would be a good way of paying for the main station...

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Re: Chinese Modular Space Station - circa 2020
« Reply #212 on: 03/12/2019 07:42 pm »
China Space Station to be completed in 2022
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China Space Station is expected to be completed in 2022. In 2019, a Long March-5B rocket is scheduled to launch the first module, the Tianhe-1 core module. Zhang Bainan, chief engineer, China Academy of Space Technology (CAST), explains the progress so far and the path forward.
Credit: China Central Television (CCTV)

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Re: Chinese Modular Space Station - circa 2020
« Reply #213 on: 03/13/2019 02:37 am »
Is the reported launch date in 2019 for Tianhe correct?   I thought that it was 2020 and it would be preceded by a CZ-5B test flight.
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Re: Chinese Modular Space Station - circa 2020
« Reply #214 on: 03/13/2019 07:29 am »
Is the reported launch date in 2019 for Tianhe correct?   I thought that it was 2020 and it would be preceded by a CZ-5B test flight.

That's my understanding as well.
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Re: Chinese Modular Space Station - circa 2020
« Reply #215 on: 04/24/2019 01:10 pm »
Some pics about the latest progress of CSS  (April 2019)

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Re: Chinese Modular Space Station - circa 2020
« Reply #217 on: 06/13/2019 08:50 pm »
http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2019-06/13/c_138139720.htm
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VIENNA, June 13 (Xinhua) -- In a tangible step towards openness and international cooperation, China and the United Nations (UN) on Wednesday jointly announced nine international scientific experiments that would be conducted on the China Space Station (CSS).
The nine experiments involving 23 entities from 17 countries -- emerging from 42 proposals of 27 countries -- were selected, with six fully and three conditionally...

Re: Chinese Modular Space Station - circa 2020
« Reply #218 on: 06/13/2019 10:56 pm »
Really interesting...

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The UNOOSA-CMSA initiative received 42 applications from organizations in 27 countries following an Announcement of Opportunity issued in May 2018. The winning institutions are based in a wide range of countries, namely Belgium, China, France, Germany, India, Italy, Japan, Kenya, the Netherlands, Norway, Mexico, Poland, Peru, Russian Federation, Saudi Arabia, Spain and Switzerland.


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Opening up the CSS to international participation is part of a charm offensive and wider efforts by China to demonstrate that there are routes for other countries on Earth to stimulate their space technology and science sectors without the Americans, Bowen adds.

https://spacenews.com/international-experiments-selected-to-fly-on-chinese-space-station/

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Re: Chinese Modular Space Station - circa 2020
« Reply #219 on: 06/14/2019 07:35 am »
So is CSS (China Space Station) the official name now?
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