Author Topic: Year In Review (Part IV - Covering SpaceX Missions COTS 2+ and CRS-1)  (Read 7463 times)

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Excellent ISS-centric feature by Pete Harding, with a very large part covering the two SpaceX missions to the Station:

http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2013/01/yir-part4-iss-new-year-successful-2012/

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It is mentioned in the article that there will be 2 SpaceX CRS flights. Is this actually the case ideally because CRS-2 got pushed over into 2013 and CRS-3 and CRS-4 are scheduled?
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It is mentioned in the article that there will be 2 SpaceX CRS flights. Is this actually the case ideally because CRS-2 got pushed over into 2013 and CRS-3 and CRS-4 are scheduled?

In theory, yes. In reality, no. I took my info from the latest FPIP chart on L2, which shows only two SpaceX CRS flights in 2013 - CRS-2 on March 1, and CRS-3 on September 30. CRS-4 is scheduled for January 13, 2014. This could all change, however...

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Excellent ISS-centric feature by Pete Harding, with a very large part covering the two SpaceX missions to the Station:

http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2013/01/yir-part4-iss-new-year-successful-2012/


Great article!  :) I especially like the info on future crew rotations.

"in preparation for a planned 2017 debut of the new Russian Advanced Crew Transportation System (ACTS) spacecraft."

There's no way 2017 is still realistic.
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Excellent ISS-centric feature by Pete Harding, with a very large part covering the two SpaceX missions to the Station:

http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2013/01/yir-part4-iss-new-year-successful-2012/


Great article!  :) I especially like the info on future crew rotations.

"in preparation for a planned 2017 debut of the new Russian Advanced Crew Transportation System (ACTS) spacecraft."

There's no way 2017 is still realistic.

Or ever?

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Excellent ISS-centric feature by Pete Harding, with a very large part covering the two SpaceX missions to the Station:

http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2013/01/yir-part4-iss-new-year-successful-2012/


Great article!  :) I especially like the info on future crew rotations.

"in preparation for a planned 2017 debut of the new Russian Advanced Crew Transportation System (ACTS) spacecraft."

There's no way 2017 is still realistic.
Kliper would seem to agree with you.

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Excellent ISS-centric feature by Pete Harding, with a very large part covering the two SpaceX missions to the Station:

http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2013/01/yir-part4-iss-new-year-successful-2012/


Great article!  :) I especially like the info on future crew rotations.

"in preparation for a planned 2017 debut of the new Russian Advanced Crew Transportation System (ACTS) spacecraft."

There's no way 2017 is still realistic.

Or ever?
Maybe. Anyway Anatoly Zak reported "In July [2012], the head of the Russian space agency, Vladimir Popovkin, discussed the 2017-2018 timeframe only in context of starting unmanned test launches". Which is much more realistic than their old claim that the first manned launch was planned for 2017.
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It is mentioned in the article that there will be 2 SpaceX CRS flights. Is this actually the case ideally because CRS-2 got pushed over into 2013 and CRS-3 and CRS-4 are scheduled?

In theory, yes. In reality, no. I took my info from the latest FPIP chart on L2, which shows only two SpaceX CRS flights in 2013 - CRS-2 on March 1, and CRS-3 on September 30. CRS-4 is scheduled for January 13, 2014. This could all change, however...

SpaceX's CRS contract expires 31/12/2015.

If they only fly CRS-2 & -3 this year, they would have to fly nine in the following two calendar years in order to max out their contracted 12 flights.

Is there any chance they might actually manage that? Would NASA request/have payloads for that many flights?

cheers, Martin

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SpaceX's CRS contract expires 31/12/2015.

If they only fly CRS-2 & -3 this year, they would have to fly nine in the following two calendar years in order to max out their contracted 12 flights.

Is there any chance they might actually manage that? Would NASA request/have payloads for that many flights?

cheers, Martin

Well that's less than one every couple of months so shouldn't be a problem all other things being equal.
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SpaceX's CRS contract expires 31/12/2015.

If they only fly CRS-2 & -3 this year, they would have to fly nine in the following two calendar years in order to max out their contracted 12 flights.

Is there any chance they might actually manage that? Would NASA request/have payloads for that many flights?

cheers, Martin

Unless it's been amended, 31-Dec-2015 is not a constraint.  At minimum SpaceX is required to fulfill deliveries through 2016 if that's what NASA wants, and may continue beyond 2016 if both SpaceX and NASA agreee...
Quote from: SpaceX CRS contract
Any order issued during the effective period of this contract and not completed within that period shall be completed by the Contractor within the time specified in the order. The contract shall govern the Contractor's and Government's rights and obligations with respect to that order to the same extent as if the order were completed during the contract's effective period; provided, the Contractor shall not be required to make any deliveries under this contract after December 31, 2016.

Offline MP99

SpaceX's CRS contract expires 31/12/2015.

If they only fly CRS-2 & -3 this year, they would have to fly nine in the following two calendar years in order to max out their contracted 12 flights.

Is there any chance they might actually manage that? Would NASA request/have payloads for that many flights?

cheers, Martin

Unless it's been amended, 31-Dec-2015 is not a constraint.  At minimum SpaceX is required to fulfill deliveries through 2016 if that's what NASA wants, and may continue beyond 2016 if both SpaceX and NASA agreee...
Quote from: SpaceX CRS contract
Any order issued during the effective period of this contract and not completed within that period shall be completed by the Contractor within the time specified in the order. The contract shall govern the Contractor's and Government's rights and obligations with respect to that order to the same extent as if the order were completed during the contract's effective period; provided, the Contractor shall not be required to make any deliveries under this contract after December 31, 2016.

Thanks, I'd missed that (it's a long way away from the 2015 clause itself).

3 each per year 2014/15/16 should be pretty do-able if NASA decide to exercise it.

cheers, Martin

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