Author Topic: LIVE: H-IIB launch with HTV-1 - September 10, 2009  (Read 188805 times)

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Not sure if this belongs in ISS or here, so I am just going for it.

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On April 17, 2008, a press review was held for the first model H-II Transfer Vehicle (HTV) (Technology Demonstration Model), which is an unmanned cargo transfer spacecraft to the International Space Station.

While it is just a model, it is good to finally see something physical other than the computer models that have been floated around for a decade.

http://www.jaxa.jp/projects/rockets/htv/index_e.html

« Last Edit: 09/10/2009 03:07 am by Chris Bergin »

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Re: JAXA updated on HTV
« Reply #1 on: 08/05/2008 12:32 am »
"We'll finally start comprehensive testing on the fully assembled spacecraft from the end of this year," said Hiroshi Sasaki of the HTV team, based at the Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency's Tsukuba Space Center in Tsukuba, Ibaraki Prefecture.

"In April, we'll send [the craft] to the Tanegashima Space Center, where it'll be launched. Everything's going well," Sasaki added.

http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/dy/features/science/20080805TDY04304.htm

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Re: JAXA updated on HTV
« Reply #2 on: 12/02/2008 05:39 am »
part of HIIB, HTV's carrier rocket, under construction in MHI (Mitsubishi Heavy Industry)'s facility



If you know Japanese you can read this page for detailed description:
http://www.jaxa.jp/article/special/transportation/index_j.html

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Re: JAXA updated on HTV
« Reply #3 on: 12/03/2008 03:03 am »
How many HTVs does JAXA plan to produce?
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Re: JAXA updated on HTV
« Reply #4 on: 12/03/2008 03:16 am »
part of HIIB, HTV's carrier rocket, under construction in MHI (Mitsubishi Heavy Industry)'s facility



If you know Japanese you can read this page for detailed description:
http://www.jaxa.jp/article/special/transportation/index_j.html

Pretty complex so all I can get is the gist of it. Google  or Babelfish can translate the page for you but it doesn't say anything new.

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Re: JAXA updated on HTV
« Reply #5 on: 12/04/2008 08:47 am »



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Re: JAXA updated on HTV
« Reply #6 on: 12/25/2008 12:29 pm »

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Re: JAXA updated on HTV
« Reply #7 on: 12/25/2008 02:57 pm »
Thanks for the photos!

They seem to be already installing an unpressurized pallet in HTV's center section. Do any of you know how many unpressurized payloads are expected to be launched, or have a preliminary payload manifest?
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Re: JAXA updated on HTV
« Reply #8 on: 12/25/2008 03:00 pm »


According to the article, it is unit no.1
dunno if it is a flight unit or not, but it said "技術実証機"
the direct translation is "technical demonstrator unit"
no idea if it is engineering qualification unit or a flight unit

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Re: JAXA updated on HTV
« Reply #9 on: 12/26/2008 05:23 pm »
Thanks for the photos!

They seem to be already installing an unpressurized pallet in HTV's center section. Do any of you know how many unpressurized payloads are expected to be launched, or have a preliminary payload manifest?

Sorry. I don't speak English that well....orz

HTV-1:unpressurized payloads
NASA HREP - http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/station/science/experiments/HREP-RAIDS.html
Jaxa SMILES - http://smiles.tksc.jaxa.jp/indexe.shtml

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Re: JAXA updated on HTV
« Reply #10 on: 12/29/2008 03:10 pm »
Thanks for the photos!

They seem to be already installing an unpressurized pallet in HTV's center section. Do any of you know how many unpressurized payloads are expected to be launched, or have a preliminary payload manifest?

Sorry. I don't speak English that well....orz

HTV-1:unpressurized payloads
NASA HREP - http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/station/science/experiments/HREP-RAIDS.html
Jaxa SMILES - http://smiles.tksc.jaxa.jp/indexe.shtml


RAIDS seems to be a Naval Research Laboratory Experiment, here is it's page:

http://www.nrl.navy.mil/tira/Projects/raids/
« Last Edit: 12/29/2008 03:10 pm by Ronsmytheiii »

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Re: JAXA updated on HTV
« Reply #11 on: 01/02/2009 09:03 am »
How many HTVs does JAXA plan to produce?

7

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Re: JAXA updated on HTV
« Reply #12 on: 01/12/2009 07:46 pm »
Manned HTV concept:

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The Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency (JAXA)'s rocket and spacecraft development establishment, the Tsukuba Space Center, has produced a concept for a four-crew capsule that is part of a Mitsubishi Heavy Industries H-IIB rocket launched spacecraft consisting of four modules, the Launch Escape System (LES), Manned Re-entry Module (MRM), Orbital Habitation Module (OHM) and Propulsion Module (PM)

http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/hyperbola/2009/01/pictures-jaxas-h-iib-launched.html

« Last Edit: 01/12/2009 07:48 pm by Ronsmytheiii »

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Re: JAXA updated on HTV
« Reply #13 on: 01/13/2009 08:59 pm »
The article says that the vehicle would use the ECLSS from the HTV. Does HTV have ECLSS or did they mean Kibo?
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Re: JAXA updated on HTV
« Reply #14 on: 01/13/2009 09:09 pm »
I don't think I understand the picture. It looks like the propulsion module is reversed from orientation in HTV, so the orbital maneuver engine is pointing at the orbital habitant module. Is that right? Oh. never mind. I looked again and now it seems as though the reentry module + propulsion module turn in the side brackets after it reaches orbit. It seems odd, I guess.
« Last Edit: 01/13/2009 09:12 pm by William Barton »

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Re: JAXA updated on HTV
« Reply #15 on: 01/13/2009 09:39 pm »
I don't think I understand the picture. It looks like the propulsion module is reversed from orientation in HTV, so the orbital maneuver engine is pointing at the orbital habitant module. Is that right? Oh. never mind. I looked again and now it seems as though the reentry module + propulsion module turn in the side brackets after it reaches orbit. It seems odd, I guess.
This (Powerpoint) HTV configuration is launched with the pressurized cargo module attached to the re-entry capsule via an airtight joint. When the HTV is berthed at the ISS, astronauts can pass through the cargo module to reach the cargo in the re-entry capsule, and they can load the return cargo into the capsule the same way.
After unberthing from the ISS, the HTV will initiate a controlled re-entry trajectory and separate the cargo module, which continues to re-enter and burn up. At that stage the re-entry capsule is still attached to the propulsion module and makes a course correction to set itself up for its own re-entry and recovery trajectory.

Edit: I forgot that the concept behind the images is actually for a manned capsule. But the principle is the same, except that when berthed to the ISS, the cargo module provides crew access from the capsule to the ISS and back.
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Re: JAXA updated on HTV
« Reply #16 on: 01/16/2009 11:33 am »
http://www.jaxa.jp/projects/rockets/htv/index_j.html

according to this official press release
HTV scheduled for delivery to Tanegashima launch centre NET April 09, and launch atop HII-B launcher is scheduled NET summer 09

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Re: JAXA updated on HTV
« Reply #17 on: 01/16/2009 12:00 pm »
I don't think I understand the picture. It looks like the propulsion module is reversed from orientation in HTV, so the orbital maneuver engine is pointing at the orbital habitant module. Is that right? Oh. never mind. I looked again and now it seems as though the reentry module + propulsion module turn in the side brackets after it reaches orbit. It seems odd, I guess.
This (Powerpoint) HTV configuration is launched with the pressurized cargo module attached to the re-entry capsule via an airtight joint. When the HTV is berthed at the ISS, astronauts can pass through the cargo module to reach the cargo in the re-entry capsule, and they can load the return cargo into the capsule the same way.
After unberthing from the ISS, the HTV will initiate a controlled re-entry trajectory and separate the cargo module, which continues to re-enter and burn up. At that stage the re-entry capsule is still attached to the propulsion module and makes a course correction to set itself up for its own re-entry and recovery trajectory.

Edit: I forgot that the concept behind the images is actually for a manned capsule. But the principle is the same, except that when berthed to the ISS, the cargo module provides crew access from the capsule to the ISS and back.


That's not what I understood the presentation to say. It looks like the capsule is launched at the top of the stack, the SM in the middle, and the cargo module at the bottom. Once in orbit, the cargo module is rotated to the front with the two-arm bracket. That's the detail I missed on first careless look.

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Re: JAXA updated on HTV
« Reply #18 on: 01/16/2009 02:37 pm »
You could be right.
I was reacting to a cargo module configuration because JAXA has been looking at that for some time. Their proposal for a manned capsule needs to consider launch abort scenarios, hence the LAS system ahead of the capsule. Then you are stuck with the problem of how do you dock or berth at the ISS and provide access to both the capsule and the cargo module.
My reaction to that is that by the time you include the weight of the LAS in the payload, you rapidly reach/exceed the launch capability of the H-IIB. So combining a manned capsule with a cargo module is questionable anyway.

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Re: JAXA updated on HTV
« Reply #19 on: 01/17/2009 03:07 am »
According to information, H2A 204 variant (4SRBs) has 15mT to LEO capacity
In contrast China's manned LV CZ-2F has only ~8.4mT to LEO capacity, so, payload capacity is NOT a reason why H2B cannot have a orbital module

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