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Re: Expedition 35 thread (March 15 - May 14, 2013)
« Reply #140 on: 05/01/2013 02:34 am »
Sounds like the perfect story to hear more about in L2 ;)

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Re: Expedition 35 thread (March 15 - May 14, 2013)
« Reply #141 on: 05/01/2013 04:19 am »
Chris Hadfield on Facebook 6 hours ago:

"Talked with Neil Young tonight, he in his hybrid 1959 Lincoln, my in a spaceship. Discussed Earth ecology & writing music. A heart of gold."

https://www.facebook.com/AstronautChrisHadfield/posts/596662170351524

I don't know if that was a public conversation, but I'm looking forward to seeing if NASA will post that to Youtube.  Or if someone has a timecode with which to find it in the Ustream archive ...
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Re: Expedition 35 thread (March 15 - May 14, 2013)
« Reply #142 on: 05/01/2013 05:53 pm »
I'm not sure I understand... They were no go for docking? So who decided to dock?

Exactly :)

That's obviously a very serious process violation - I hope a full investigation will be performed. Next time they might not be so lucky.

My guess is that there was a tug-of-war between Roscosmos and RSC Energia.

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Re: Expedition 35 thread (March 15 - May 14, 2013)
« Reply #143 on: 05/01/2013 06:17 pm »
I'm not sure I understand... They were no go for docking? So who decided to dock?

Exactly :)

That's obviously a very serious process violation - I hope a full investigation will be performed. Next time they might not be so lucky.

My guess is that there was a tug-of-war between Roscosmos and RSC Energia.
I expect that whichever controller (MCC-M flight engineer) pressed and issued that command(s) to proceed with final docking will probably never have such a job in government or this industry again. I also expect that several other heads will roll on the floor per usual protocol/practice by government during/after such investigations.

Also, will Russia now conduct a spacewalk to inspect Zvezda SM's aft end for physical evidence to aid this investigation?

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Re: Expedition 35 thread (March 15 - May 14, 2013)
« Reply #144 on: 05/01/2013 09:17 pm »
I expect that whichever controller (MCC-M flight engineer) pressed and issued that command(s) to proceed with final docking will probably never have such a job in government or this industry again.

So that person did it on his own? I'm surprised that can happen unsupervised.

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Re: Expedition 35 thread (March 15 - May 14, 2013)
« Reply #145 on: 05/01/2013 09:18 pm »
I expect that whichever controller (MCC-M flight engineer) pressed and issued that command(s) to proceed with final docking will probably never have such a job in government or this industry again.

So that person did it on his own? I'm surprised that can happen unsupervised.
IDK that is my guess.

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Re: Expedition 35 thread (March 15 - May 14, 2013)
« Reply #146 on: 05/01/2013 09:45 pm »

It was completed successfully - they basically rammed it in crushing the antenna. The crew heard it.

Didn't the crew say they heard NO unusual noises during docking? I seem to remember that.
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Re: Expedition 35 thread (March 15 - May 14, 2013)
« Reply #147 on: 05/01/2013 09:52 pm »
Didn't the crew say they heard NO unusual noises during docking? I seem to remember that.
yes that is what I remember hearing, but protocols for the docking to hard mate may not have been followed properly regarding this situation and what it sounds like is that someone(s) decided to press for final docking without final approval. At least that is what I understand at this point and there is several talks of brewing investigation for MCC-M's failures.

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Re: Expedition 35 thread (March 15 - May 14, 2013)
« Reply #148 on: 05/02/2013 02:07 am »

Also, will Russia now conduct a spacewalk to inspect Zvezda SM's aft end for physical evidence to aid this investigation?

You'll certainly be able to see any evidence of involved forces when Progress undocks, but it may require an EVA to determine the extent of damage (if any) to Zvezda/ancilliary equipment.

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Best quote heard during an inspection, "I was unaware that I was the only one who was aware."

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Re: Expedition 35 thread (March 15 - May 14, 2013)
« Reply #151 on: 05/02/2013 10:06 pm »

It was completed successfully - they basically rammed it in crushing the antenna. The crew heard it.

Didn't the crew say they heard NO unusual noises during docking? I seem to remember that.

Nothing out of the ordinary of the antenna being crushed.  ;D 
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Re: Expedition 35 thread (March 15 - May 14, 2013)
« Reply #152 on: 05/04/2013 01:17 pm »
The USOS portion of the weekly planning conference was unintelligible because a Russian translation--first I've heard and presumably for the Russian crew--drowned out the English discussion.  I really wish NASA (PAO?) would dial down the Russian translations volume...

There was some obvious tension yesterday when Houston asked the Russian crew to photo document TVIS equipment being replaced by a new treadmill that arrived on the Progress.  Chris Cassidey quickly offered to help mediate any confusion with the Russian crew and suggested Moscow and Houston work out issues on the ground and send Houston derived tasking to the Cosmonauts via Moscow in radiograms--in Russian.  The Cosmonauts called Moscow questioning the usefulness of the task and Moscow reported there were several issues (with Houston) that shouldn't be discussed over an open channel.

The Russian crew has communicated with Moscow using VHF in private mode--something I've never heard before--on successive passes today.
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Re: Expedition 35 thread (March 15 - May 14, 2013)
« Reply #153 on: 05/04/2013 03:45 pm »
Thomas H. Marshburn‏@AstroMarshburn

Dextre says hello from outside during robotic operations the other night pic.twitter.com/uux7hw16Ps

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Re: Expedition 35 thread (March 15 - May 14, 2013)
« Reply #154 on: 05/04/2013 03:47 pm »
International Space Station (ISS) Management Center (IMC) Daily Summary Report
Increment 35 Operations – Stage 35-6
05/03/13 4:00 pm Central Daylight Time (CDT)
123 21:00 Greenwich Mean Time (GMT)
 


New Status:
 improved Payload Ethernet Hub Gateway (iPEHG)-1 and -2 Installation: Commander (CDR) Hadfield upgraded PEHG-2 Wednesday and PEHG-1 today by removing the legacy PEHGs and installing two new iPEHGs. The new iPEHGs have enhanced configuration capabilities over the legacy PEHG, improved Gateway modes of operation and improved network protocols to support integration into Joint Station Joint Station LAN (JSL), faster medium rate and high rate data link, and additional accessible channels.  The activation and checkout of both iPEHGs were successful.

Integrated Cardiovascular (ICV) Ambulatory Monitoring:  With assistance from Hadfield, Marshburn initiated his 5th and final ICV data take session.  He donned the Human Research Facility (HRF) Holter Monitor 2 (HM2) to record Electrocardiogram (ECG) data, 2 Actiwatch Spectrums (waist & ankle) to record activity levels, and the Cardiopres equipment to continuously monitor blood pressure. This session had dedicated data takes for both resting and exercising periods. Integrated Cardiovascular quantifies the extent, time course and clinical significance of cardiac atrophy (decrease in the size of the heart muscle) associated with long-duration space flight,  to identify the mechanisms of this atrophy and the functional consequences for crewmembers who spend extended periods of time in space.

On Board Training (OBT) ISS Crew Health Care System (CHeCS) Drill: Cassidy, Vinogradov and Misurkin participated in this on-board training/drill which gives crewmembers the opportunity to work as a team in resolving a simulated medical emergency onboard ISS. The training refreshes their memory of the on-orbit stowage and deployment locations, equipment use, and procedures.

Light Microscopy Module (LMM) Microscope Troubleshooting: After powering up the Fluids Integration Rack (FIR) and LMM for science ops on April 15, it was discovered that the microscope’s stage could not be moved up to properly position it for science operations. Cassidy inspected the LMM for potential obstruction that prevented the LMM X-Y Stage from moving up and down, and cleaned the ACE (Advanced Colloids Experiment) sample and objective lens.  He also checked for obstruction or damage while removing all hardware inside the LMM Auxiliary Fluids Container (AFC).  After the LMM was reassembled ground operators were able to move the microscope’s stage. 

Mobile Servicing System (MSS) and Robotics Refueling Mission (RRM) Operations: Today the Safety Cap Tool SCT was used to retrieve the Torque Set Adapter (TSA), which  was used to unfasten one caged screw and then unfasten one uncaged screw. Afterwards the Space Station Remote Manipulator System (SSRMS) and Special Purpose Dexterous Manipulator (SPDM) were maneuvered to a park position, ready for Day 3 of the RRM Tertiary Tasks Ops beginning Monday. MSS System performance was nominal.
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Re: Expedition 35 thread (March 15 - May 14, 2013)
« Reply #155 on: 05/04/2013 08:17 pm »
The USOS portion of the weekly planning conference was unintelligible because a Russian translation--first I've heard and presumably for the Russian crew--drowned out the English discussion.  I really wish NASA (PAO?) would dial down the Russian translations volume...

There was some obvious tension yesterday when Houston asked the Russian crew to photo document TVIS equipment being replaced by a new treadmill that arrived on the Progress.  Chris Cassidey quickly offered to help mediate any confusion with the Russian crew and suggested Moscow and Houston work out issues on the ground and send Houston derived tasking to the Cosmonauts via Moscow in radiograms--in Russian.  The Cosmonauts called Moscow questioning the usefulness of the task and Moscow reported there were several issues (with Houston) that shouldn't be discussed over an open channel.

The Russian crew has communicated with Moscow using VHF in private mode--something I've never heard before--on successive passes today.
There is now minor discussion about moving ISS RS EVA 33 to before ATV-4 docking date only if SM visual inspection conducted from Progress-M-19M's tv camera during undocking up to the departure bun 1 warrants Moscow to take such an action. ATV-4's transfer to the BAF on Monday 06 May 2013 for performing its final integration with its waiting Ariane 5 ES launcher is still scheduled to proceed as stated on the amended mission processing timeline.

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Re: Expedition 35 thread (March 15 - May 14, 2013)
« Reply #156 on: 05/04/2013 08:21 pm »
This newly-released image from NASA.gov shows Alexander Misurkin photographing the approaching Progress M-19M from a small window on the Service Module. I have never seen this window before, but it must be on the Aft end of the SM as M-19M would not have been visible from any other angle. Additionally, we can see the inside of the docking drogue on SM Aft in the top-right corner of the image.

I just never knew there was a window at SM Aft - I thought the only windows on the SM were all on the Nadir side, plus the two for the Kayutas. Do any of the Russian experts have a precise location for this Aft window (or others which I may be unaware of)?

http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/gallery/images/station/crew-35/html/iss035e029733.html

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Re: Expedition 35 thread (March 15 - May 14, 2013)
« Reply #157 on: 05/05/2013 12:28 pm »
Yes, this is "Window n°26" at the aft of Zvezda.

It is also visible in this picture :

http://www.kosmonavtika.com/vaisseaux/mks/missions/mkseo30/photos/mks30-1079.jpg

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Re: Expedition 35 thread (March 15 - May 14, 2013)
« Reply #158 on: 05/05/2013 07:33 pm »

There was some obvious tension yesterday when Houston asked the Russian crew to photo document TVIS equipment being replaced by a new treadmill that arrived on the Progress.  Chris Cassidey quickly offered to help mediate any confusion with the Russian crew and suggested Moscow and Houston work out issues on the ground and send Houston derived tasking to the Cosmonauts via Moscow in radiograms--in Russian.  The Cosmonauts called Moscow questioning the usefulness of the task and Moscow reported there were several issues (with Houston) that shouldn't be discussed over an open channel.

The Russian crew has communicated with Moscow using VHF in private mode--something I've never heard before--on successive passes today.

Maybe someone can explain this.  Doesn't the ISS commander have the final say?
 
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Re: Expedition 35 thread (March 15 - May 14, 2013)
« Reply #159 on: 05/05/2013 09:05 pm »
If the power data grapple fixture installation for the SSRMS on the Russian segment was complete, would the arm have the reach to inspect the docking ring?  It would be tough to try to see back end of the Russian segment...

Finishing the install was deferred from several US EVAs that ran long.
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