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Re: AstroForge (Asteroid Mining Company)
« Reply #20 on: 01/31/2023 02:32 pm »
Ah, so they have a way to break apart and haul asteroid chunks around the solar system? Someone tell the Planetary Society that AstroForge solved the whole asteroid protection thing.

Bingo.  The asteroid baggers do not really have a proposed technique to despin a huge asteroid with a tiny spacecraft.
Sometimes I just flat out don't get it.

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Re: AstroForge (Asteroid Mining Company)
« Reply #21 on: 02/01/2023 02:07 am »
Ah, so they have a way to break apart and haul asteroid chunks around the solar system? Someone tell the Planetary Society that AstroForge solved the whole asteroid protection thing.

Bingo.  The asteroid baggers do not really have a proposed technique to despin a huge asteroid with a tiny spacecraft.

Bagged or unbagged, despin seems to be a problem.

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Re: AstroForge (Asteroid Mining Company)
« Reply #22 on: 02/01/2023 11:16 am »
With the not insignificant number of asteroids available to pick from, a good starting point wold be "don't choose asteroids with significant spin" (e.g. using photometry).

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Re: AstroForge (Asteroid Mining Company)
« Reply #23 on: 12/12/2023 02:20 pm »
AstroForge Provides an Update on its Brokkr-1 Demo Mission

Quote from: Jack Kuhr, Payload, 12/12/23
"AstroForge is now in 'a race against time' to complete the refinery checkouts and demonstrate the tech before they lose contact completely, which the company estimates could be three more months.

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Re: AstroForge (Asteroid Mining Company)
« Reply #24 on: 07/30/2024 10:19 pm »
ODIN failed vibration test in March.  They ended up scrapping that spacecraft and moving up the internally built satellite intended for the following mission.  Sounds like they're still trying to make the same flight?

https://www.astroforge.io/updates/an-update-on-mission-1-mission-2-same-name-new-vehicle-new-standard-for-space-exploration

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Our second mission will send our vehicle, Odin, to deep space to gather images of our target asteroid. This will be the first-ever deep space mission by a commercial company and the first to collect images of an M-type asteroid.

The Odin vehicle failed vibration testing on March 12, 2024; the first natural frequency of the vehicle was significantly lower than expected and well below the SpaceX requirements to be certified to launch. We traced the root cause to a manufacturing defect in the baseplate, a large part of the structure made by one of our third-party vendors. The baseplate, where the propulsion tanks and thrusters are mounted, consists of a foam core sandwiched between carbon composite panels. The foam core was cracked in multiple places, leading to the off-nominal response seen in the vibration test.

Vibration testing is strenuous on a spacecraft but safe by design when the design performs as expected; that's the point of the test. But when a vibration test goes off-nominal as ours did, all subsystems are potentially compromised and must be re-evaluated.

With our newfound learnings from Mission 1, the AstroForge team performed a deep review of each system, rigorously comparing the as-built components to their design schematics and validation procedures. In that review, we identified damage to the propellant lines, harnessing that failed to meet NASA build standards, and discrepancies between schematics and the as-built avionics that dropped the performance margin in the communications system below our flight requirements. This spacecraft could not fly.

There are times when a company has to make extremely difficult decisions. Decisions that will test the resolve and strength of the team. Decisions that could ultimately make or break the company. On April 2, 2024, the AstroForge team unanimously decided to accelerate the in-house design of our own vehicle, planned for Mission 3, to use right now.

Up to that point, we had only been designing and building our own payload; all other parts of the Mission 2 spacecraft were designed and integrated by a third party. And at that point, there were only seven months left to launch. Seven months to design and build a bus from scratch, produce mission-specific avionics systems, find and procure long-lead components (typically longer than seven months by itself), pass rigorous full-system flight testing, work with our supplier Dawn to fix the propulsion system, and get licensed and certified with Range Safety, SpaceX, and the FCC.

AstroForge prides itself on how quickly we can move. Our first mission from company inception to launch was 460 days. That was a toaster-sized Cubesat. This is a grossly larger 100kg mostly-custom vehicle, and we need to do it 50% faster, just 212 days. We're fast, but this was insane.

It was also the right decision. AstroForge is an exciting place to work, where best-of-the-best engineers sink deep into solving world-class problems. We've assembled insane levels of talent, thoughtfulness, experience, technical savvy, and resolve to make insane-seeming tasks viable. It's the right time to bet on ourselves.

It’s been a little over 3 months since we made our in-house-designed pivot; here’s where we are and what we still need to do:

Define requirements and design the vehicle - COMPLETE
Design and manufacture primary structure - COMPLETE
Structural and thermal analysis of the vehicle - COMPLETE
Procure available components (solar arrays, reaction wheels, RF system) - COMPLETE
Design and fabricate mission-specific avionics (power distribution, flight computer, imager payload, onboard cameras, IO board) - COMPLETE
Repair and requalify propulsion system, in partnership with Dawn Aerospace - COMPLETE
FCC License Application - COMPLETE
End to end testing with 1 of 4 ground station sites - COMPLETE
Design, build, test, and qualify solar array deployment mechanism - COMPLETE
Design, implement, and test mission operations software - COMPLETE
Design, implement, and test core GNC algorithms - COMPLETE
Design, implement, and test subset of flight software systems and drivers - COMPLETE
Design, implement, and test backend infrastructure - COMPLETE
Design, implement, and test data analysis tools - COMPLETE
Design, build, and test flight harnesses - COMPLETE
Design, build, and integrate thermal systems - COMPLETE
Integrate and test the full Odin vehicle - COMPLETE

Vibration testing - IN PROGRESS
Design, implement, and test representative Flatsat for HITL testing - IN PROGRESS
Mission design and trajectory optimization - IN PROGRESS
Acceptance test mission-specific avionics - IN PROGRESS
Complete flight software system and drivers - IN PROGRESS
Complete GNC software and testing - IN PROGRESS
Complete simulation environment in support of HITL testing - IN PROGRESS
End to end testing with all ground station sites - IN PROGRESS

TVAC testing - TODO
HITL testing - TODO
Mission operations rehearsals - TODO
Ship to launch site - TODO
Launch integration - TODO
Launch - TODO

This list is long and exhaustive, and intentionally so, not only to highlight the monumental task at hand but to showcase the AstroForge team.

We're on track, but we can't shy away from the fact that any new team building a new vehicle is a lot of risk. It's the right risk at the right time. And everything we learn on Mission 2 sets us up for an even better Mission 3.

Introducing the new Odin vehicle. Same name, new vehicle, setting a new standard in aerospace to deliver the first commercial deep space vehicle in record time. LFG!‍
« Last Edit: 07/30/2024 10:20 pm by gongora »

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Re: AstroForge (Asteroid Mining Company)
« Reply #25 on: 08/01/2024 04:28 am »
That seems pretty ambitious!

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Re: AstroForge (Asteroid Mining Company)
« Reply #27 on: 10/21/2024 07:04 pm »
https://twitter.com/astroforge/status/1846969000246628630

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Milestones We have an ambitious plan for October, including:

 • Finalizing the mission sequences in the spacecraft’s flight software
 • Preparing for our next series of GNC and Flight Software tests
 • Mission operations training with the vehicle in the loop
 • Advancing our refinery testing and demonstrating high metal recovery rates from terrestrial ore samples

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Re: AstroForge (Asteroid Mining Company)
« Reply #28 on: 10/23/2024 06:35 pm »
Astroforge Linkedin [Oct 23]

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Huge news! We're beyond excited to welcome space industry legend Hans Koenigsmann as an advisor to our team! 💫

Hans began his career at the Center of Applied Space Technology and Microgravity (ZARM) at the University of Bremen, where he initially led avionics before managing the BremSat satellite mission. In 2002, he became SpaceX’s fourth technical employee, playing a pivotal role in shaping space exploration over the next two decades. As VP of Build and Flight Reliability, he oversaw countless successful launches, ensuring mission safety and reliability. His contributions earned him the NASA Distinguished Public Service Medal in 2014, NASA’s highest honor for non-government individuals.

Hans’ unparalleled expertise will be invaluable as we continue pushing the boundaries of space resource acquisition. The future of deep space exploration is built on the foundation laid by those who came before us, and we are honored to have their guidance. Welcome to the team, Hans! 💪

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Re: AstroForge (Asteroid Mining Company)
« Reply #29 on: 11/05/2024 10:24 am »
https://twitter.com/astroforge/status/1846969000246628630

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Milestones We have an ambitious plan for October, including:

 • Finalizing the mission sequences in the spacecraft’s flight software
 • Preparing for our next series of GNC and Flight Software tests
 • Mission operations training with the vehicle in the loop
 • Advancing our refinery testing and demonstrating high metal recovery rates from terrestrial ore samples

Something noteworthy here:

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September brought insights into the potential terrestrial applications of our refinery, particularly in deep mining. We’re in discussions with major mining companies about our technology’s potential impact.

Our key insight is that while terrestrial mines generate high throughput, they do so at high financial and process inefficiency costs. Many deep platinum group metal (PGM) mines struggle to operate profitably due to high extraction costs linked to ore grade and depth. Our refinery could be highly competitive, potentially cutting the industry average all-in-sustaining cost (AISC) by more than 90%. We’ll continue refining this technology and expect further clarity in the coming months.

This is interesting. If they have a technology that they can develop and license with terrestrial applications, that should make a big difference to their sustainability. What I can gather is that they use magnetic separation (not now) combined with partly or completely vapourising the regolith (energy intensive!). Surprised that their targets are not LL chondrites? They have fairly high Pt ppm. Those would also have water for propellant and are probably easier to process and magnetically refine, and the technique would have something vaguely in common with the geochemistry of platinum reefs on Earth.
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Re: AstroForge (Asteroid Mining Company)
« Reply #30 on: 12/21/2024 05:17 pm »
Off Nominal podcast discussion with Founder and CEO of AstroForge Matt Gialich.

https://offnom.com/episodes/177

He talks about their business plan, progress and future plans.

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Re: AstroForge (Asteroid Mining Company)
« Reply #31 on: 01/31/2025 06:50 am »
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AstroForge Discloses Target Asteroid For Flyby Prospecting Mission

AstroForge plans to fly its Odin spacecraft by 2022OB5, a prospective M-type asteroid, on a space ore hunting mission that could launch as soon as February. The asteroid mining startup is to launch Odin mounted underneath Intuitive Machines’ IM-2 lunar lander mission, said Matthew Gialich, CEO and... [paywalled]

https://aviationweek.com/space/space-exploration/astroforge-discloses-target-asteroid-flyby-prospecting-mission
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Re: AstroForge (Asteroid Mining Company)
« Reply #32 on: 02/24/2025 07:18 pm »
AstroForge
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Thanks to @Astro_Jonny for the great coverage of our upcoming history making launch in the @nytimes
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/23/science/astroforge-launch-asteroid-mining.html

https://twitter.com/astroforge/status/1894030776431525985

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Re: AstroForge (Asteroid Mining Company)
« Reply #33 on: 02/24/2025 07:24 pm »
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T-2 Days till launch

Team work makes the dream work - and getting Odin across the line took a lot of work.

Unpacking after shipping. Lots of little bolts, and not a lot of room for an errors.

We had to fuel Odin, behind the blast shield of course. Thankfully the amazing team at @DawnAerospace was there to support!

Then @bfields99, @admeginnis, and @WesleyTunelius had to get their glamour shot.

https://twitter.com/astroforge/status/1894115183490207780

https://twitter.com/astroforge/status/1894116503861264619

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Re: AstroForge (Asteroid Mining Company)
« Reply #34 on: 02/25/2025 01:58 pm »
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T-1

Here is the raw breakdown of what will likely happen during the flight of Odin. All the mistakes, all the risk, and all the glory. This is truly us going all in:

https://www.astroforge.com/updates/mission-2-overview

https://twitter.com/astroforge/status/1894374287932625245

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Re: AstroForge (Asteroid Mining Company)
« Reply #35 on: 02/26/2025 05:02 pm »
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T-0. Today we launch.

Today, we push beyond all the companies that came before us. No matter the outcome, our names will be etched into history’s next chapter of space exploration.

https://twitter.com/astroforge/status/1894760085748080837

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Re: AstroForge (Asteroid Mining Company)
« Reply #36 on: 02/26/2025 05:06 pm »
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We received a lot of questions about the risks we're taking on the Odin mission. In the spirit of transparency, here's a podcast covering the details.   https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/roid-rage/id1798627668

https://twitter.com/astroforge/status/1894795962931192285

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Re: AstroForge (Asteroid Mining Company)
« Reply #37 on: 02/26/2025 05:08 pm »
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The space industry is full of secret, closed-door decisions, where the public only sees the results.

That changes today. We're going to livestream the entire mission, including telemetry and mic'd-up operators. Starting at 3:00pm PST

AstroForge Launch Stream
https://www.youtube.com/live/WV9EXw07tSs

https://twitter.com/astroforge/status/1894803169634591201

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Re: AstroForge (Asteroid Mining Company)
« Reply #38 on: 02/27/2025 12:31 am »
Astroforge webcast commentary indicates Odin would deploy solar arrays and orient to the sun even without establishing communication with the ground. No telemetry yet at 01:30 UTC.
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« Reply #39 on: 02/27/2025 12:40 am »
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