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Re: COTS Demo 1
« Reply #660 on: 12/06/2010 02:36 pm »

Very much looking forward to seeing AS MUCH AS WE POSSIBLY CAN!!!  But I was wondering - will SpaceX be putting up any live cargo?  Perhaps some mice and bugs?  If not, how will they test the internal pressure integrity of the Dragon?


And risk the wrath of the PETA crowd for obtaining data that can be (and probably will be) recorded with a simple data logger?
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Re: COTS Demo 1
« Reply #661 on: 12/06/2010 02:41 pm »
IIRC, It doesn't matter whether Demo 1 succeeds or fails.  They move on to COTS Demo 2. The only difference might be in convincing NASA to combine 2 & 3. But I don't see why they would. The last milestone payment is incredibly cheap for the confidence of an extra test flight before CRS starts.

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Re: COTS Demo 1
« Reply #662 on: 12/06/2010 02:43 pm »
IIRC, It doesn't matter whether Demo 1 succeeds or fails.

It doesn't matter for COTS, but it matters for ISS ultimately. Any significant anomaly and we're bound to lose a year or so of failure root cause analysis, etc. That pushes everything to the right even more.

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Re: COTS Demo 1
« Reply #663 on: 12/06/2010 02:45 pm »

Very much looking forward to seeing AS MUCH AS WE POSSIBLY CAN!!!  But I was wondering - will SpaceX be putting up any live cargo?  Perhaps some mice and bugs?  If not, how will they test the internal pressure integrity of the Dragon?


And risk the wrath of the PETA crowd for obtaining data that can be (and probably will be) recorded with a simple data logger?

That's win-win.  If it goes right, it's more exciting.  If it goes wrong, some cute vegetarians do a nude protest just outside your office window with "Go Vegan" painted on their hindquarters for the cameras.  Not all bad...  btw, they can have the mice in my garage.  I'm planning to kill those anyways.
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Re: COTS Demo 1
« Reply #664 on: 12/06/2010 03:10 pm »
SFN reporting only 40% chance of launch Tuesday due to wind. Anyone know what exactly is the wind speed threshold for F9 launch?

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Re: COTS Demo 1
« Reply #665 on: 12/06/2010 03:23 pm »
There will be a 45th Wing weather officer at the L-1 press conference today so we may find that out.

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Re: COTS Demo 1
« Reply #666 on: 12/06/2010 03:34 pm »
There will be a 45th Wing weather officer at the L-1 press conference today so we may find that out.

What time is that L-1 press conf?

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Re: COTS Demo 1
« Reply #667 on: 12/06/2010 03:36 pm »
There will be a 45th Wing weather officer at the L-1 press conference today so we may find that out.

What time is that L-1 press conf?

"PRELAUNCH NEWS CONFERENCE
The prelaunch news conference for the COTS 1 Falcon 9 launch is planned for L-1, currently Monday, Dec. 6 at 1:30 p.m., at the press site at NASA's Kennedy Space Center in Florida. NASA Television will provide live coverage, and the briefing will be streamed at "
ref: www.nasa.gov

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Re: COTS Demo 1
« Reply #668 on: 12/06/2010 03:42 pm »

Very much looking forward to seeing AS MUCH AS WE POSSIBLY CAN!!!  But I was wondering - will SpaceX be putting up any live cargo?  Perhaps some mice and bugs?  If not, how will they test the internal pressure integrity of the Dragon?


And risk the wrath of the PETA crowd for obtaining data that can be (and probably will be) recorded with a simple data logger?

That's win-win.  If it goes right, it's more exciting.  If it goes wrong, some cute vegetarians do a nude protest just outside your office window with "Go Vegan" painted on their hindquarters for the cameras.  Not all bad...  btw, they can have the mice in my garage.  I'm planning to kill those anyways.

And if the cute little rabbit you sent up got out of it's cage and chewed through the wiring in the dragon causing an untraceable failure that leads to it becoming rabbit stew for what should rightly be calamari? What does that do for the ISS? It adds unnecessary complication to obtain info on events they will already have in the telemetry.

Besides, does SpaceX meet all the standards you need to meet for animal testing? If you want a crash test dummy, send Elon up ;)
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Re: COTS Demo 1
« Reply #669 on: 12/06/2010 04:45 pm »
I got a question. Unless I've missed it somewhere. Is there a press kit or something that has mission profile, duration, how much coverage. Reason I asked. NASA has said they will have a press confernce 1 hour after splashdown. Nothing on NASA or Spacex sites

Thanks Kyle King

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Re: COTS Demo 1
« Reply #670 on: 12/06/2010 05:18 pm »
Quote from: Robert Pearlman via Twitter
SpaceX lowered its Falcon 9 rocket this morning for reasons still unknown. Today's media photo opp with the rocket is reportedly canceled.
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Re: COTS Demo 1
« Reply #671 on: 12/06/2010 05:24 pm »
Don’t have an official press kit, but the mission profile from what I read goes something like this:

Testing the fixes to the Falcon 9 rocket (for example the unplanned roll of the Falcon rocket during flight1) and get a cleaner launch.

For the Dragon I think they will get it separated and communicating. Then do some orbital maneuvering and then some reentry tests of the capsule. Then see about landing the capsule in one largish piece. Its not going to be complicated, they only have a few hours.



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Re: COTS Demo 1
« Reply #672 on: 12/06/2010 05:26 pm »
Quote from: Robert Pearlman via Twitter
SpaceX lowered its Falcon 9 rocket this morning for reasons still unknown. Today's media photo opp with the rocket is reportedly canceled.

It is vertical at this time

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Re: COTS Demo 1
« Reply #673 on: 12/06/2010 05:37 pm »
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Re: COTS Demo 1
« Reply #674 on: 12/06/2010 05:37 pm »
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Re: COTS Demo 1
« Reply #675 on: 12/06/2010 05:40 pm »
thursday is earliest launch date now...

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Re: COTS Demo 1
« Reply #676 on: 12/06/2010 05:40 pm »
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Re: COTS Demo 1
« Reply #677 on: 12/06/2010 05:40 pm »
I didn't catch what she was saying about the 2nd stage nozzle?

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Re: COTS Demo 1
« Reply #678 on: 12/06/2010 05:41 pm »
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Re: COTS Demo 1
« Reply #679 on: 12/06/2010 05:42 pm »
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