<snip>But one thing that has become abundantly clear to long-time NSF’ers is that the forum is taking a back seat to the multimedia juggernaut that is the YouTube channel with their tiers of paid monthly memberships. Very often, the live commentators and hosts of the YT streams say things that make it plain they don’t read the forums, or do so only sporadically, while simultaneously referring to things that are posted or hinted at exclusively in the (paid access) Discord server.The internet evolves, content fragments and we all must adapt or get over it. But none of this is really L2-related.
Taking this to here, away from the SpaceX section where it originated:Quote from: Herb Schaltegger on 09/02/2022 02:11 pm<snip>But one thing that has become abundantly clear to long-time NSF’ers is that the forum is taking a back seat to the multimedia juggernaut that is the YouTube channel with their tiers of paid monthly memberships. Very often, the live commentators and hosts of the YT streams say things that make it plain they don’t read the forums, or do so only sporadically, while simultaneously referring to things that are posted or hinted at exclusively in the (paid access) Discord server.The internet evolves, content fragments and we all must adapt or get over it. But none of this is really L2-related.Emphasis mine.Exactly. That is the one thing I called out would happen once NSF started using Discord. It is also the one thing Chris said he would not want to happen.But it is happening anyway. And IMO it is beginning to erode the added value of the forum section.
Quote from: woods170 on 09/02/2022 02:47 pmTaking this to here, away from the SpaceX section where it originated:Quote from: Herb Schaltegger on 09/02/2022 02:11 pm<snip>But one thing that has become abundantly clear to long-time NSF’ers is that the forum is taking a back seat to the multimedia juggernaut that is the YouTube channel with their tiers of paid monthly memberships. Very often, the live commentators and hosts of the YT streams say things that make it plain they don’t read the forums, or do so only sporadically, while simultaneously referring to things that are posted or hinted at exclusively in the (paid access) Discord server.The internet evolves, content fragments and we all must adapt or get over it. But none of this is really L2-related.Emphasis mine.Exactly. That is the one thing I called out would happen once NSF started using Discord. It is also the one thing Chris said he would not want to happen.But it is happening anyway. And IMO it is beginning to erode the added value of the forum section.I’ve heard of Discord but never used it. But it seems to be siphoning content off from a few forums and such like places these days.
Yeah, I must say since the YouTube channel started, there has been so much more push towards "support us!" by tiers of membership, merch, superchats, etc. I mean, I appreciate the content, but sometimes it all comes across as being a bit greedy. My 2c.I also wonder how much the live commentators read these forums.
Quote from: woods170 on 09/02/2022 02:47 pmTaking this to here, away from the SpaceX section where it originated:Quote from: Herb Schaltegger on 09/02/2022 02:11 pm<snip>But one thing that has become abundantly clear to long-time NSF’ers is that the forum is taking a back seat to the multimedia juggernaut that is the YouTube channel with their tiers of paid monthly memberships. Very often, the live commentators and hosts of the YT streams say things that make it plain they don’t read the forums, or do so only sporadically, while simultaneously referring to things that are posted or hinted at exclusively in the (paid access) Discord server.The internet evolves, content fragments and we all must adapt or get over it. But none of this is really L2-related.Emphasis mine.Exactly. That is the one thing I called out would happen once NSF started using Discord. It is also the one thing Chris said he would not want to happen.But it is happening anyway. And IMO it is beginning to erode the added value of the forum section.To add to this: a good amount of work was done to make the regular forum mobile friendly to the point that it is usable on my phone and I don't have to use the mobile theme.But the work is not complete, there are still many issues using the main theme on mobile, and all work was dropped in this regard.
SIlent removals on this forum are getting very annoying. Especially for content that doesn't break rules, but is merely critical. Just my 2c, silent moderation sucks.
There is an ‘under review’ section of the forum that only mods have access to. When a thread particularly goes off the rails - and people report it - it tends to get moved there for more serious editing.Other urgent things can crop up and threads get forgotten! So much spaceflight news at the moment it can be difficult to keep up with the house keeping.A couple of threads were restored in the last couple of days (Starship to Mars in 2024 and one on the AvWeek article on SpaceX reusability). Similar thing happened to the Boca Chica property thread a while back. Occasionally threads won’t be restored because they’re judged inappropriate for the forum.So if there’s a thread that has disappeared and not returned for a bit feel free to ask. It may have just been ‘lost in moderation’.
Hi all.This is a message to moderators.Sometimes in this (very active) section is tricky to find one specifical flight because of the pattern naming missions:Rocket : Mission Name : Launch Platform : Date : TimeIMO I think it can be a good idea adding something more to some of the patterns, just like this:MANNED : Rocket : Mission Name : Launch Platform : Date : TimeSTARLINK: Rocket : Mission Name : Launch Platform : Date : Time...Thanks