Quote from: oiorionsbelt on 03/23/2023 05:31 amQuote from: Kspbutitscursed on 03/23/2023 12:42 amquestion what are the chances of 2 starship launches in 2023 and 5 in 2024 personally i think that three in 2023 and 5 2024 i guess Gwynne Shotwell thinks Starship may launch 100 times in 2025. So perhaps 4 this year and 10 or more in 2024. There are those who are certain that won't happen but only time will tell.https://spacenews.com/shotwell-says-spacex-ready-for-starship-static-fire-test/Gwynne Shotwell also stated Starships would "definitely" have been landing on the Moon for 1.5 years by now: https://futurism.com/the-byte/spacex-land-starship-moon-2022Adjust your expectations accordingly.
Quote from: Kspbutitscursed on 03/23/2023 12:42 amquestion what are the chances of 2 starship launches in 2023 and 5 in 2024 personally i think that three in 2023 and 5 2024 i guess Gwynne Shotwell thinks Starship may launch 100 times in 2025. So perhaps 4 this year and 10 or more in 2024. There are those who are certain that won't happen but only time will tell.https://spacenews.com/shotwell-says-spacex-ready-for-starship-static-fire-test/
question what are the chances of 2 starship launches in 2023 and 5 in 2024 personally i think that three in 2023 and 5 2024 i guess
“Aspirationally, we want to get Starship to orbit within a year," Shotwell said at this year's International Astronautical Congress in Washington DC, as quoted by TechCrunch. "We definitely want to land it on the Moon before 2022."
This might be what you are looking for. Last update was July 2022. https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=34802.0Ned
Thank you for bringing back the exact same pedantic lawyeristic semantics [...]
Quote from: eeergo on 03/23/2023 01:37 pmThank you for bringing back the exact same pedantic lawyeristic semantics [...]Words have meaning. Stop misquoting people to suit your agenda.Separately, spaceflight is aspirational. If we filled every SLS, Vulcan, and New Glenn thread with all of the aspirational statements companies and/or organizations make about their aspirational timelines and then complain when they are not met, we'll drown in a sea of uselessness. SpaceX is, as Jim likes to say, not special in many things, and they are not special in this thing either.
This might be Zack's best deep dive yet.
Oh, you love to drink the kool-aide, just not this flavor.
Quote from: Athelstane on 03/23/2023 12:21 amThis might be Zack's best deep dive yet.Jax is quite good as the ring watcher guy. His study of the reinforcements they've made to the aft barrel sections and qd panel on all the ships through 30 was most enlightening. If 24 fails in flight at that section of the structure, then they'll have to redo them all again, or skip to 31.
With all the lists of what Starship might do on launch day I'd want to add variant:0. Aborts before launch clamp release - leading to scrub.I think this is by far the most likely event. To the point that I highly doubt the rocket will launch on the first launch day.SpaceX will then do mitigations - maybe just recycle and try again, maybe check some valves or even swap some raptors and try again - rinse and repeat.The likelihood for this to happen is so high, I would dare to add a poll how often this is gonna happen.
I'll suggest vertcle slots, e.g. 4 with redesigned cartridge batches, e.g 4 to a batch. Vertically stacked batches. How to virtualise the cartridge so its a mechanism rather than a box?
Quote from: CMac on 03/24/2023 04:58 pmI'll suggest vertcle slots, e.g. 4 with redesigned cartridge batches, e.g 4 to a batch. Vertically stacked batches. How to virtualise the cartridge so its a mechanism rather than a box?Was kinda mine idea also. Just do one longitudinal slot and satellites are aligned as bullets in revolver. Expect they eject radially and not axially. Sorta rotating drum mechanism.
What about airplane cargo doors? This would be most universal design for many payload versions. Surely there are many many problems with this.Nosecone header dome would get quite complicated. Also down comers design would became interesting at hinge point. Also heatshield interface would became quite juicy.
Quote from: BT52 on 03/24/2023 06:28 pmWhat about airplane cargo doors? This would be most universal design for many payload versions. Surely there are many many problems with this.Nosecone header dome would get quite complicated. Also down comers design would became interesting at hinge point. Also heatshield interface would became quite juicy. Other than putting a seam and hinge through the heat shield?I still thing that eventually there will be a cargo bag door on the top side not dissimilar to the shuttle