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Re: LIVE: SpaceX - Falcon I (Mk.II) NET March 19
« Reply #260 on: 03/18/2007 11:44 pm »
Well it looks like Kimbal does not have the info yet..
"I'll keep sending updates as I get them. Once we get close to launch, I'll get everyone the Webcast information. I will post as soon as I have it."

ref:http://kwajrockets.blogspot.com/

Do we have confirmation that the launch is Monday?

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Re: LIVE: SpaceX - Falcon I (Mk.II) NET March 19
« Reply #261 on: 03/18/2007 11:47 pm »
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The payload isn't so "dummy", the second stage carries two small experiments for NASA, although they remain bolted to the second stage structure, so they mustn't be very complex, so I suppose the orbit they follow isn't critical.

For some info about the payloads, LCT2 and AFSS: http://space.skyrocket.de/doc_sdat/demosat_falcon.htm

Yes.  It appears that AFSS will only be tested during the ascent phase, but LCT2 will communicate through TDRSS, perhaps for awhile.  A low-inclination orbit might be better for low-power TDRSS communications.

 - Ed Kyle


I see that  SN  -Space Network is noted for support - no mention of TDRSS ( maybe SN include TDRSS?)

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Re: LIVE: SpaceX - Falcon I (Mk.II) NET March 19
« Reply #262 on: 03/18/2007 11:54 pm »
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Well it looks like Kimbal does not have the info yet..
"I'll keep sending updates as I get them. Once we get close to launch, I'll get everyone the Webcast information. I will post as soon as I have it."

ref:http://kwajrockets.blogspot.com/

Do we have confirmation that the launch is Monday?

I suspect it won't be Monday, since the opening of the Monday (Tuesday on Kwajalein) launch window is already less than 24 hours from now.  Most launch companies don't wait until less than 24 hours before launch to notify the media.  

But then again, this is SpaceX we are talking about.  

 - Ed Kyle

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Re: LIVE: SpaceX - Falcon I (Mk.II) NET March 19
« Reply #263 on: 03/19/2007 12:02 am »
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eeergo - 18/3/2007  4:24 PM

The payload isn't so "dummy", the second stage carries two small experiments for NASA, although they remain bolted to the second stage structure, so they mustn't be very complex, so I suppose the orbit they follow isn't critical.

For some info about the payloads, LCT2 and AFSS: http://space.skyrocket.de/doc_sdat/demosat_falcon.htm

Yes.  It appears that AFSS will only be tested during the ascent phase, but LCT2 will communicate through TDRSS, perhaps for awhile.  A low-inclination orbit might be better for low-power TDRSS communications.

 - Ed Kyle


I see that  SN  -Space Network is noted for support - no mention of TDRSS ( maybe SN include TDRSS?)

SN is TDRSS

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Re: LIVE: SpaceX - Falcon I (Mk.II) NET March 19
« Reply #264 on: 03/19/2007 12:28 am »
Thanks Jim..

update by Kimbal..

"Regardless, the SpaceX team are examining the GPS thoroughly to understand what caused the alert. Once the scope of the problem is understood, it will determine when the launch will occur."

Ref:
http://kwajrockets.blogspot.com/

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RE: LIVE: SpaceX - Falcon I (Mk.II) NET March 19
« Reply #265 on: 03/19/2007 12:33 am »
SpaceX (talking to a very helpful person there) confirm there will be a media call in (which I'll do), webcast and webcam (no idea if it'll be public, but I would assume so). So this ties everything up for full launch coverage as we normally do with the main launch events.

The information isn't being released just yet, and any conditions attached, but when such a release occurs, I'll be sure to note it here.

Launch is currently on for 23:17 UTC Monday.

No delays noted at time of posting this.
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Re: LIVE: SpaceX - Falcon I (Mk.II) NET March 19
« Reply #266 on: 03/19/2007 01:18 am »
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Kwajalein is 17 hours ahead of Central Daylight Time (where I live) and 12 hours ahead of Universal Time.  Right now (23:17 UTC) it is 11:17 AM Monday on Omelek.   - Ed Kyle
This always confuses me

It is currently
02:00 3/19 UTC =
22:00 3/18 EDT = 10 PM
21:00 3/18 CDT = 9 PM
20:00 3/18 MDT = 8 PM
19:00 3/18 PDT = 7 PM
14:00 3/19 MHT = 2 PM in Pacific / Kwajalein standard time  

http://msdb.honeywell-tsi.com/launches.asp  says the launch window is

23:00 3/19 UTC =
19:00 3/19 EDT = 7 PM
18:00 3/19 CDT = 6 PM
17:00 3/19 MDT = 5 PM
16:00 3/19 PDT = 4 PM
11:00 3/20 MHT = 11 AM in Kwajalein local time

which opens in 21 hours.

Did I get this right?  Is the "launches" page precise?

The SpaceX website does not have the promised Sunday update. (There are still 5 hrs left to Sunday in CA, but its a good bet that it is already Monday where Musk is working.)  It does have an announcement about the hiring of Dr. Jeff Ward of Surrey Sat.  (This update is also back-dated.  Curious)
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Re: LIVE: SpaceX - Falcon I (Mk.II) NET March 19
« Reply #267 on: 03/19/2007 01:44 am »
SpaceX are still talking about an update to announce the countdown timeline, so it might yet come tonight.
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Re: LIVE: SpaceX - Falcon I (Mk.II) NET March 19
« Reply #268 on: 03/19/2007 03:01 am »
Good luck to SpaceX and the Falcon 1 launcher.  Lets hope when this 1st stage comes down, it is after staging and sending the 2nd stage on its way.

Regardless of the outcome, those of us whom do not build launch vehicles would love to see wider and less expensive access to space.


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Re: LIVE: SpaceX - Falcon I (Mk.II) NET March 19
« Reply #269 on: 03/19/2007 03:38 am »
SpaceX's competitors aren't as hostile as you may think.  They want to see somebody come on the scene and force them to do it better than they currently do it.  They've very skeptical that costs can be dramatically lowered as a result of the rocket's design, though.  I tend to agree, but I think that SpaceX's contribution will be the "Skunk Works" style of engineering that keeps administration and overhead costs down.

A lot's riding on this launch.  If there's a problem that forces a lengthy failure analysis and redesign, we won't see a Falcon IX fly on the current timetable, and no COTS flight by the time the shuttle retires (unless SpaceX wants to fly Dragon on an Atlas V.)
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Re: LIVE: SpaceX - Falcon I (Mk.II) NET March 19
« Reply #270 on: 03/19/2007 04:00 am »
Launch attempt is ON for 11pm UTC.

Webcast is spacex.com/webcast.php

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Re: LIVE: SpaceX - Falcon I (Mk.II) NET March 19
« Reply #271 on: 03/19/2007 04:11 am »
new update

Posted March 18, 2007


The flight readiness review conducted tonight shows all systems are go for a launch attempt at 4pm California time (11pm GMT) tomorrow (Monday). The webcast can be seen at spacex.com/webcast.php and will start at T-60 minutes. Please check back for updates, as the launch will be postponed if we have even the tiniest concern.

--Elon--


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Re: LIVE: SpaceX - Falcon I (Mk.II) NET March 19
« Reply #272 on: 03/19/2007 04:18 am »
Even if there is a failure tomorrow...Mr. Musk seems to feel that it will not be a lengthly 1 year wait before the next attempt...

"I know it has been a year since our last launch and some people are wondering if launch 3 will also be a year away if something goes wrong this time. The answer is definitely no. The reason it took us a year is that the vehicle on the pad and the ground support equipment have hundreds of robustness upgrades -- this is really Falcon 1 version 2.

There is nothing significant that we can think of to improve the vehicles under construction for the Dept of Defense and Malaysian satellite launches later this year. Therefore, no matter what happens, I do not expect there to be a significant delay in their approximate end of summer and mid fall launch dates."

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Re: LIVE: SpaceX - Falcon I (Mk.II) NET March 19
« Reply #273 on: 03/19/2007 12:00 pm »
All I can say at this point is Best of Luck SpaceX.  I've been watching spacex for about 3 years now and would really like to see them excel.

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Re: LIVE: SpaceX - Falcon I (Mk.II) NET March 19
« Reply #274 on: 03/19/2007 12:19 pm »
Like all others I only want to say, that I hope that these launch will be successful.

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Re: LIVE: SpaceX - Falcon I (Mk.II) NET March 19
« Reply #275 on: 03/19/2007 01:42 pm »
Yes, Good luck to the SpaceX team. Many people around the world are hoping and praying for you to be successful today.

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Re: LIVE: SpaceX - Falcon I (Mk.II) NET March 19
« Reply #276 on: 03/19/2007 02:15 pm »
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A lot's riding on this launch.  If there's a problem that forces a lengthy failure analysis and redesign, we won't see a Falcon IX fly on the current timetable, and no COTS flight by the time the shuttle retires (unless SpaceX wants to fly Dragon on an Atlas V.)

You're forgetting RPK's COTS entry. They'll be flying by 09.  ;)

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RE: LIVE: SpaceX - Falcon I (Mk.II) NET March 19
« Reply #277 on: 03/19/2007 03:00 pm »
Media call in set for 3pm Californian time. Restricted to media.

Everything looking good so far, and we'll check out the weather situation later on.
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Re: LIVE: SpaceX - Falcon I (Mk.II) NET March 19
« Reply #278 on: 03/19/2007 03:28 pm »

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eeergo - 18/3/2007 4:24 PM The payload isn't so "dummy", the second stage carries two small experiments for NASA, although they remain bolted to the second stage structure, so they mustn't be very complex, so I suppose the orbit they follow isn't critical. For some info about the payloads, LCT2 and AFSS: http://space.skyrocket.de/doc_sdat/demosat_falcon.htm
Yes. It appears that AFSS will only be tested during the ascent phase, but LCT2 will communicate through TDRSS, perhaps for awhile. A low-inclination orbit might be better for low-power TDRSS communications. - Ed Kyle
I see that SN -Space Network is noted for support - no mention of TDRSS ( maybe SN include TDRSS?)
SN is TDRSS

 Actually, both of these experiment have flown previously. The Falcon I launch is a 'launch of opportunity' to get more flight history (and hopefully a bit longer than the last Falcon 1 attempt).  The TDRSS unit was flown on a Minotaur I last year (http://www.orbital.com/NewsInfo/release.asp?prid=552) and the AFSS was flown on at least one sounding rocket at White Sands.  Both of the these applications would actually be more stressing than the Falcon 1 because of the higher accelerations involved - at least in a nominal, successful mission.  But, depending on how things go, the AFSS could get a more realistic test for its ultimate use. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wallops_Flight_Facility)

 


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RE: LIVE: SpaceX - Falcon I (Mk.II) NET March 19
« Reply #279 on: 03/19/2007 03:59 pm »
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