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Voting closed: 09/07/2024 11:32 am
The GEM 63XL failure on V005 seems to me a significant problem for Starliner in the long term. Atlas 5 uses different boosters, I know, but I can't see approval for Starliner on Vulcan anytime soon, if ever. - Ed Kyle
Honest question Ed, what makes you think that Boeing is even interested in flying Starliner on Vulcan? NASA isn't interested in Starliner in the post-ISS era. And there is no queue of commercial parties interested in flying on Starliner either. From a Boeing perspective it would make no sense to qualify a theoretical Starliner-Vulcan combination.
[25:40] Jim Bridenstine: "I think there are things that can and should be commercialized and I know you feel the same way with how we do Commercial Crew to the International Space Station. We're excited about Vulcan being certified for that eventually."
Quote from: edkyle99 on 02/13/2026 01:47 pmThe GEM 63XL failure on V005 seems to me a significant problem for Starliner in the long term. Atlas 5 uses different boosters, I know, but I can't see approval for Starliner on Vulcan anytime soon, if ever. - Ed KyleHonest question Ed, what makes you think that Boeing is even interested in flying Starliner on Vulcan? NASA isn't interested in Starliner in the post-ISS era. And there is no queue of commercial parties interested in flying on Starliner either. From a Boeing perspective it would make no sense to qualify a theoretical Starliner-Vulcan combination.
The agency labeled the mission a “Type A” mishap in a scathing report, expected to be released as soon as Thursday, that delves into what happened during the Boeing Co. Starliner’s first crewed flight. The fates of Barry “Butch” Wilmore and Sunita “Suni” Williams captured the world’s attention as NASA frantically tried to decide how to bring them back from the International Space Station.The 300-plus page report is fiercely critical of both NASA’s bureaucracy and Boeing, laying blame on one of the corporate pioneers of US space missions, according to a copy seen by Bloomberg News. Faulty engineering, inadequate oversight and general mistrust between the parties helped turn a weeklong mission into a physical and mental ordeal for Wilmore and Williams that lasted much longer.[...]Investigators make 61 formal recommendations for what NASA and Boeing can do to prevent similar mistakes in the future. Congress will be briefed on the probe, which was conducted by agency employees and outside experts.[...]The mission “revealed critical vulnerabilities in the Starliner’s propulsion system, NASA’s oversight model, and the broader culture of commercial human spaceflight,” according to the report. Lessons from the mishap “must be institutionalized to ensure that safety is never compromised in pursuit of schedule or cost.”
Bloomberg: NASA Puts Starliner Mishap in Same Class as Shuttle Tragedies [Feb 19, paywalled]QuoteThe agency labeled the mission a “Type A” mishap in a scathing report, expected to be released as soon as Thursday, that delves into what happened during the Boeing Co. Starliner’s first crewed flight. The fates of Barry “Butch” Wilmore and Sunita “Suni” Williams captured the world’s attention as NASA frantically tried to decide how to bring them back from the International Space Station.The 300-plus page report is fiercely critical of both NASA’s bureaucracy and Boeing, laying blame on one of the corporate pioneers of US space missions, according to a copy seen by Bloomberg News. Faulty engineering, inadequate oversight and general mistrust between the parties helped turn a weeklong mission into a physical and mental ordeal for Wilmore and Williams that lasted much longer.[...]Investigators make 61 formal recommendations for what NASA and Boeing can do to prevent similar mistakes in the future. Congress will be briefed on the probe, which was conducted by agency employees and outside experts.[...]The mission “revealed critical vulnerabilities in the Starliner’s propulsion system, NASA’s oversight model, and the broader culture of commercial human spaceflight,” according to the report. Lessons from the mishap “must be institutionalized to ensure that safety is never compromised in pursuit of schedule or cost.”
NSF - NASASpaceflight.com@NASASpaceflightThis is the leadership we all hoped for and are now receiving at NASA.
Schedule pressure reared it's ugly head, again...
NSF - NASASpaceflight.com@NASASpaceflight·5mOver to Boeing to call it a day on Starliner?Eric Berger@SciGuySpace·2mI don't know yet.
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