Compared to the competition.
Quote from: woods170 on 08/23/2017 07:02 pmQuote from: docmordrid on 08/23/2017 03:06 pmQuoteGarrett Reisman <span class="emoji-outer emoji-sizer"><span class="emoji-inner" style="background: url(chrome-extension://immhpnclomdloikkpcefncmfgjbkojmh/emoji-data/sheet_apple_64.png);background-position:6.25% 29.166666666666668%;background-size:4900%" data-codepoints="2714"></span></span> @astro_g_doggThis suit is much better than the one I wore in the Shuttle. Lots of great innovations. I wore one today for our post-splashdown safety test https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/900363626841812992 …10:55 AM - Aug 23, 2017 · Florida, USAhttps://twitter.com/astro_g_dogg/status/900371010846810113Ouch. That's a punch in the face of the David Clark company, by one of their former users no less. Not to mention that it basically disqualifies the IVA suit for Orion.Garrett Reitman works for Spacex
Quote from: docmordrid on 08/23/2017 03:06 pmQuoteGarrett Reisman <span class="emoji-outer emoji-sizer"><span class="emoji-inner" style="background: url(chrome-extension://immhpnclomdloikkpcefncmfgjbkojmh/emoji-data/sheet_apple_64.png);background-position:6.25% 29.166666666666668%;background-size:4900%" data-codepoints="2714"></span></span> @astro_g_doggThis suit is much better than the one I wore in the Shuttle. Lots of great innovations. I wore one today for our post-splashdown safety test https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/900363626841812992 …10:55 AM - Aug 23, 2017 · Florida, USAhttps://twitter.com/astro_g_dogg/status/900371010846810113Ouch. That's a punch in the face of the David Clark company, by one of their former users no less. Not to mention that it basically disqualifies the IVA suit for Orion.
QuoteGarrett Reisman <span class="emoji-outer emoji-sizer"><span class="emoji-inner" style="background: url(chrome-extension://immhpnclomdloikkpcefncmfgjbkojmh/emoji-data/sheet_apple_64.png);background-position:6.25% 29.166666666666668%;background-size:4900%" data-codepoints="2714"></span></span> @astro_g_doggThis suit is much better than the one I wore in the Shuttle. Lots of great innovations. I wore one today for our post-splashdown safety test https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/900363626841812992 …10:55 AM - Aug 23, 2017 · Florida, USAhttps://twitter.com/astro_g_dogg/status/900371010846810113
Garrett Reisman <span class="emoji-outer emoji-sizer"><span class="emoji-inner" style="background: url(chrome-extension://immhpnclomdloikkpcefncmfgjbkojmh/emoji-data/sheet_apple_64.png);background-position:6.25% 29.166666666666668%;background-size:4900%" data-codepoints="2714"></span></span> @astro_g_doggThis suit is much better than the one I wore in the Shuttle. Lots of great innovations. I wore one today for our post-splashdown safety test https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/900363626841812992 …10:55 AM - Aug 23, 2017 · Florida, USA
Quote from: Ludus on 08/23/2017 04:42 pmCompared to the competition.OK, but THIS suit does look pressurized. Still, one major difference seems to be the helmet. Basically all IVA suit helmets up to now were fixed to the suit. The SpaceX helmet seems to be conforming to the head (like a motorcycle helmet), connected to the suit with a soft neck "tunnel". This means as long as the suit isn't pressurized you can move around your head (with the helmet) freely, look around and up and down, even nod and shake your head. You also are wearing a full, padded crash helmet. This is an altogether good thing compared to all fixed hard or soft helmets where you can move around your head only INSIDE the helmet and have to try and look through the limited, unmoving visor in the front. I think the first Mercury spacesuit was a bit similar (but still with a neck ring with the helmet only able to rotate on it, not move up and down).
Quote from: uhuznaa on 08/23/2017 08:32 pmQuote from: Ludus on 08/23/2017 04:42 pmCompared to the competition.OK, but THIS suit does look pressurized. Still, one major difference seems to be the helmet. Basically all IVA suit helmets up to now were fixed to the suit. The SpaceX helmet seems to be conforming to the head (like a motorcycle helmet), connected to the suit with a soft neck "tunnel". This means as long as the suit isn't pressurized you can move around your head (with the helmet) freely, look around and up and down, even nod and shake your head. You also are wearing a full, padded crash helmet. This is an altogether good thing compared to all fixed hard or soft helmets where you can move around your head only INSIDE the helmet and have to try and look through the limited, unmoving visor in the front. I think the first Mercury spacesuit was a bit similar (but still with a neck ring with the helmet only able to rotate on it, not move up and down).What does pressurized mean? Obviously the wearer can breathe, so there is air inside.I think the picture shows the nominal state, when the pressure inside and outside of the suit are equal.The suit will surely become more bulky and stiff in a vacuum.
Quote from: jpo234 on 08/23/2017 08:45 pmWhat does pressurized mean? Obviously the wearer can breathe, so there is air inside.I think the picture shows the nominal state, when the pressure inside and outside of the suit are equal.The suit will surely become more bulky and stiff in a vacuum.I was talking about the (blue) Boeing suit and pressurized means the pressure inside is higher than the pressure outside.I agree that for an emergency suit the nominal state is the pressure inside being equal (or only slightly higher) to the pressure outside, but the Boeing suit definitely looks expanded while the SpaceX suit does not.
What does pressurized mean? Obviously the wearer can breathe, so there is air inside.I think the picture shows the nominal state, when the pressure inside and outside of the suit are equal.The suit will surely become more bulky and stiff in a vacuum.
Wonder how SpaceX keep the helmet visor from misting over with their spacesuit.
Quote from: Jim on 08/23/2017 08:12 pmQuote from: woods170 on 08/23/2017 07:02 pmQuote from: docmordrid on 08/23/2017 03:06 pmQuoteGarrett Reisman <span class="emoji-outer emoji-sizer"><span class="emoji-inner" style="background: url(chrome-extension://immhpnclomdloikkpcefncmfgjbkojmh/emoji-data/sheet_apple_64.png);background-position:6.25% 29.166666666666668%;background-size:4900%" data-codepoints="2714"></span></span> @astro_g_doggThis suit is much better than the one I wore in the Shuttle. Lots of great innovations. I wore one today for our post-splashdown safety test https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/900363626841812992 …10:55 AM - Aug 23, 2017 · Florida, USAhttps://twitter.com/astro_g_dogg/status/900371010846810113Ouch. That's a punch in the face of the David Clark company, by one of their former users no less. Not to mention that it basically disqualifies the IVA suit for Orion.Garrett Reitman works for SpacexYah, that disqualifies him from being objective... just like anyone working for NASA cannot be about NASA hardware.
Quote from: Zed_Noir on 08/23/2017 08:56 pmWonder how SpaceX keep the helmet visor from misting over with their spacesuit.There is Anti-fog...
Quote from: BobHk on 08/23/2017 09:06 pmQuote from: Zed_Noir on 08/23/2017 08:56 pmWonder how SpaceX keep the helmet visor from misting over with their spacesuit.There is Anti-fog...The best way would be to stream the air pumped through the suit over the visor first to carry any moisture away.
Further clarification on who is wearing the spacesuit:QuoteThe spacesuit of the future has arrived! This is our spacesuit manager wearing a working flight suit in Dragon. instagram.com/p/BYIPmEFAIIn/https://twitter.com/rocketjoy/status/900378957840654336
The spacesuit of the future has arrived! This is our spacesuit manager wearing a working flight suit in Dragon. instagram.com/p/BYIPmEFAIIn/
I bet the astronaut would have to add a further heavy suit over the top to do EVA work?
Quote from: woods170 on 08/23/2017 07:02 pmQuote from: docmordrid on 08/23/2017 03:06 pmQuoteGarrett Reisman ✔ @astro_g_doggThis suit is much better than the one I wore in the Shuttle. Lots of great innovations. I wore one today for our post-splashdown safety test https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/900363626841812992 10:55 AM - Aug 23, 2017 · Florida, USAhttps://twitter.com/astro_g_dogg/status/900371010846810113Ouch. That's a punch in the face of the David Clark company, by one of their former users no less. Not to mention that it basically disqualifies the IVA suit for Orion.Not to interrupt the fawning, but how does that comment disqualify anything?
Quote from: docmordrid on 08/23/2017 03:06 pmQuoteGarrett Reisman ✔ @astro_g_doggThis suit is much better than the one I wore in the Shuttle. Lots of great innovations. I wore one today for our post-splashdown safety test https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/900363626841812992 10:55 AM - Aug 23, 2017 · Florida, USAhttps://twitter.com/astro_g_dogg/status/900371010846810113Ouch. That's a punch in the face of the David Clark company, by one of their former users no less. Not to mention that it basically disqualifies the IVA suit for Orion.
QuoteGarrett Reisman ✔ @astro_g_doggThis suit is much better than the one I wore in the Shuttle. Lots of great innovations. I wore one today for our post-splashdown safety test https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/900363626841812992 10:55 AM - Aug 23, 2017 · Florida, USAhttps://twitter.com/astro_g_dogg/status/900371010846810113
Garrett Reisman ✔ @astro_g_doggThis suit is much better than the one I wore in the Shuttle. Lots of great innovations. I wore one today for our post-splashdown safety test https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/900363626841812992 10:55 AM - Aug 23, 2017 · Florida, USA
Quote from: okan170 on 08/23/2017 07:31 pmQuote from: woods170 on 08/23/2017 07:02 pmQuote from: docmordrid on 08/23/2017 03:06 pmQuoteGarrett Reisman ✔ @astro_g_doggThis suit is much better than the one I wore in the Shuttle. Lots of great innovations. I wore one today for our post-splashdown safety test https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/900363626841812992 …10:55 AM - Aug 23, 2017 · Florida, USAhttps://twitter.com/astro_g_dogg/status/900371010846810113Ouch. That's a punch in the face of the David Clark company, by one of their former users no less. Not to mention that it basically disqualifies the IVA suit for Orion.Not to interrupt the fawning, but how does that comment disqualify anything?The IVA suit for Orion is a slightly modified version of the shuttle ACES suit. Given that one of the former users of the shuttle ACES suit now qualifies the SpaceX IVA suit as "much better" than the shuttle ACES suit....I think you are smart enough to do the rest of the logical reasoning.
Quote from: woods170 on 08/23/2017 07:02 pmQuote from: docmordrid on 08/23/2017 03:06 pmQuoteGarrett Reisman ✔ @astro_g_doggThis suit is much better than the one I wore in the Shuttle. Lots of great innovations. I wore one today for our post-splashdown safety test https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/900363626841812992 …10:55 AM - Aug 23, 2017 · Florida, USAhttps://twitter.com/astro_g_dogg/status/900371010846810113Ouch. That's a punch in the face of the David Clark company, by one of their former users no less. Not to mention that it basically disqualifies the IVA suit for Orion.Not to interrupt the fawning, but how does that comment disqualify anything?
Quote from: docmordrid on 08/23/2017 03:06 pmQuoteGarrett Reisman ✔ @astro_g_doggThis suit is much better than the one I wore in the Shuttle. Lots of great innovations. I wore one today for our post-splashdown safety test https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/900363626841812992 …10:55 AM - Aug 23, 2017 · Florida, USAhttps://twitter.com/astro_g_dogg/status/900371010846810113Ouch. That's a punch in the face of the David Clark company, by one of their former users no less. Not to mention that it basically disqualifies the IVA suit for Orion.
QuoteGarrett Reisman ✔ @astro_g_doggThis suit is much better than the one I wore in the Shuttle. Lots of great innovations. I wore one today for our post-splashdown safety test https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/900363626841812992 …10:55 AM - Aug 23, 2017 · Florida, USAhttps://twitter.com/astro_g_dogg/status/900371010846810113
Garrett Reisman ✔ @astro_g_doggThis suit is much better than the one I wore in the Shuttle. Lots of great innovations. I wore one today for our post-splashdown safety test https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/900363626841812992 …10:55 AM - Aug 23, 2017 · Florida, USA
Then inside the suit on the first picture should be Jason Tenenbaum.https://www.linkedin.com/in/jason-tenenbaum-7859278/