Quote from: Josh_from_Canada on 06/26/2022 06:43 amNextSpaceFlight lists a launch with a satellite for Eutelsat in November that will expend B1049Based on the Eutelsat launch schedule this could be any of 10B, Hotbird 13F, Hotbird 13G. All of them are electric propulsion and due to enter service in either H1 2023 or Q2/Q3 2023.
NextSpaceFlight lists a launch with a satellite for Eutelsat in November that will expend B1049
The Eutelsat 10B in-service date has now slipped from H1 2023 to Q3 2023.https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20220725005935/en/Eutelsat-Communications-Full-Year-2021-22-Results [July 26]
2.4 Impacts of the Russo-Ukrainian war...As of 30 June 2022, Eutelsat S.A. had a receivable of 37 million dollars from a supplier of fixed assets, ILS, following the termination of a launcher contract. The ability to recover this receivable will be reassessed at regular intervals as required by developments in the situation....
This short term launch order could be the result of a canceled ILS Proton-M launch.Quote2.4 Impacts of the Russo-Ukrainian war...As of 30 June 2022, Eutelsat S.A. had a receivable of 37 million dollars from a supplier of fixed assets, ILS, following the termination of a launcher contract. The ability to recover this receivable will be reassessed at regular intervals as required by developments in the situation....source: https://www.eutelsat.com/files/PDF/investors/2021-22/EC_consolidated_financial_statements_FY22.pdf
This is the thread for these two satellites.Even if the two don't launch together on an Ariane 64. My opinion.Most likely with another launch provider, separately.
Intelsat made some FCC ground station filings to support LEOP of "Hotbird F1", which isn't actually a real name. I'm guessing that should be Hotbird 13F. The launch date given is October 17.
Quote from: GWR64 on 08/06/2022 10:08 amThis short term launch order could be the result of a canceled ILS Proton-M launch.Quote2.4 Impacts of the Russo-Ukrainian war...As of 30 June 2022, Eutelsat S.A. had a receivable of 37 million dollars from a supplier of fixed assets, ILS, following the termination of a launcher contract. The ability to recover this receivable will be reassessed at regular intervals as required by developments in the situation....source: https://www.eutelsat.com/files/PDF/investors/2021-22/EC_consolidated_financial_statements_FY22.pdfOr the loss on an unused launch option or options?See this thread: ILS Proton-M - Eutelsat launches 2016-2023 Agreement
Quote from: gongora on 08/16/2022 04:40 pmIntelsat made some FCC ground station filings to support LEOP of "Hotbird F1", which isn't actually a real name. I'm guessing that should be Hotbird 13F. The launch date given is October 17.Wouldn't Hotbird 13G be more likely? The plan seems to be for it to launch before 13F (based on the table a few posts above).Maybe F1 isn't a typo, but some kind of alternative designation?
Quote from: gongora on 08/16/2022 05:08 pmQuote from: scr00chy on 08/16/2022 05:07 pmQuote from: gongora on 08/16/2022 04:40 pmIntelsat made some FCC ground station filings to support LEOP of "Hotbird F1", which isn't actually a real name. I'm guessing that should be Hotbird 13F. The launch date given is October 17. [Filing dated August 15.]Wouldn't Hotbird 13G be more likely? The plan seems to be for it to launch before 13F (based on the table a few posts above).Could be 13GIt may also be that Hotbird 13G gets the better orbit, i.e. an expendable Falcon 9.With Hotbird 13G, Eutelsat wants to get the money for the EGNOS payload as soon as possible. A total of 100 million euros in 15 years.Hotbird 13F is not so urgent, but should also be launched this year.<snip>
Quote from: scr00chy on 08/16/2022 05:07 pmQuote from: gongora on 08/16/2022 04:40 pmIntelsat made some FCC ground station filings to support LEOP of "Hotbird F1", which isn't actually a real name. I'm guessing that should be Hotbird 13F. The launch date given is October 17. [Filing dated August 15.]Wouldn't Hotbird 13G be more likely? The plan seems to be for it to launch before 13F (based on the table a few posts above).Could be 13G
Quote from: gongora on 08/16/2022 04:40 pmIntelsat made some FCC ground station filings to support LEOP of "Hotbird F1", which isn't actually a real name. I'm guessing that should be Hotbird 13F. The launch date given is October 17. [Filing dated August 15.]Wouldn't Hotbird 13G be more likely? The plan seems to be for it to launch before 13F (based on the table a few posts above).
Intelsat made some FCC ground station filings to support LEOP of "Hotbird F1", which isn't actually a real name. I'm guessing that should be Hotbird 13F. The launch date given is October 17. [Filing dated August 15.]
Now there's a filing for LEOP ground station support of the other Hotbird sat [Hotbird F2], NET November 7. Again no launch details given. [Aug 30]
Now there's a filing for LEOP ground station support of the other Hotbird sat, NET November 7. Again no launch details given.
I think both [Hotbirds] will be shipped from France to Florida together by boat and will be launched in quick succession.
Intelsat expects the LEOP period to last approximately 150 days.
Intelsat expects the LEOP to last approximately 165 days.
Quote from: gongora on 08/30/2022 08:31 pmNow there's a filing for LEOP ground station support of the other Hotbird sat, NET November 7. Again no launch details given.If Hotbird 13F launches on another Falcon 9, might Eutelsat pay for SpaceX to expend another older first stage? To maximize the GTO and minimizing the delta-v and time to achieve GEO?Quote from: GWR64 on 08/16/2022 06:18 pmI think both [Hotbirds] will be shipped from France to Florida together by boat and will be launched in quick succession.