I agree - would have been nice if it was the default, just for those reasons - make sure you've no typos, nobody else has just said the same thing and so on - Lot's of other stuff to get done first so not a high priority. I'm still a muppet!Quote from: gongora on 02/09/2018 05:19 pmQuote from: kevinof on 02/09/2018 05:10 pmOk. I've been on this site for years and I never saw that.I vaguely remember getting really annoyed with the default forum behavior in the past and searching out that option. I think it would be better to have that as the default behavior. When your post appears on screen you can notice typos, whether the attachments worked (or you forgot them), whether someone else just posted the same thing, whether you were being a dick and should really just delete what you just posted (happens occasionally), etc.
Quote from: kevinof on 02/09/2018 05:10 pmOk. I've been on this site for years and I never saw that.I vaguely remember getting really annoyed with the default forum behavior in the past and searching out that option. I think it would be better to have that as the default behavior. When your post appears on screen you can notice typos, whether the attachments worked (or you forgot them), whether someone else just posted the same thing, whether you were being a dick and should really just delete what you just posted (happens occasionally), etc.
Ok. I've been on this site for years and I never saw that.
Quote from: acsawdey on 02/21/2018 06:46 pmWhatever you did to the page caching info in the served html is working great. Now when I hit the browser back button to go back from a forum thread to the forum listing (or most often "Unread Topics") it updates with any new posts. Before I always had do reload or F5 at that point.A dissenting opinion... From time to time ctrl+click "New" on a forum listing (to open a topic in a new tab) fails for one reason or another. It used to be that returning to the (still open) forum listing tab allowed one to try again. Now "New" is instantly gone so one has to click to the topic's last page and then hunt for the earliest unread post; sometimes several pages back. Definitely a retrograde (ahem) step from my point of view As is often the case with UI changes, what's really required is a user configurable option so we can all have our preferred way of working.
Whatever you did to the page caching info in the served html is working great. Now when I hit the browser back button to go back from a forum thread to the forum listing (or most often "Unread Topics") it updates with any new posts. Before I always had do reload or F5 at that point.
Each like causes a refresh of the view, so it's not surprising that you need to go back that many times....It is interesting to hear how different people use the forum and read things.My process is usually different. I refresh the recent topics then right click on each "NEW" and do an open in new tab. I fire off a bunch of those, go off and do something else, and then read them all in the order I opened them (usually from bottom to top). Hogs a lot of memory in Firefox but works fairly well.
Quote from: ulm_atms on 01/02/2018 01:10 amQuote from: Chris Bergin on 12/29/2017 11:22 pmThen we work on bringing the forum software up a notch or three WITHOUT losing familiarity or ease of use. I've seen some sites completely change their forum and you're left shaking your head thinking "Why???" Yes, we have to upgrade, but man that will be a massive community crowdsource and discussion to get it right before we even think about changes.Serious question Chris and not a joke from what you wrote above but it is the question I have..........Why?The forums are the absolute best forums I have used anywhere and are using currently. Just curious as to the driving reasons for the bold part above.Have to move on with the technology. But as previously noted, I've seen some sites die by making massive changes. Trick is to keep things familiar. Will be the biggest effort, but one where we really get the community involved with both technically and via discussion of how to do it...
Quote from: Chris Bergin on 12/29/2017 11:22 pmThen we work on bringing the forum software up a notch or three WITHOUT losing familiarity or ease of use. I've seen some sites completely change their forum and you're left shaking your head thinking "Why???" Yes, we have to upgrade, but man that will be a massive community crowdsource and discussion to get it right before we even think about changes.Serious question Chris and not a joke from what you wrote above but it is the question I have..........Why?The forums are the absolute best forums I have used anywhere and are using currently. Just curious as to the driving reasons for the bold part above.
Then we work on bringing the forum software up a notch or three WITHOUT losing familiarity or ease of use. I've seen some sites completely change their forum and you're left shaking your head thinking "Why???" Yes, we have to upgrade, but man that will be a massive community crowdsource and discussion to get it right before we even think about changes.
Hi Chris, I don't envy you this job Have courage mate Although I still stand by my "tags" suggestion in this post:https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=42036.msg1654286#msg1654286I'm beginning to wonder if you might be in a situation where you really *have* to break the forum system and start afresh. Ideally it will look and feel similar, but the code/underlying structure will be completely different/updated - and probably not backwards compatible. The way you could make that less painful is to build a new forum (or fora) completely separate from the "legacy forum" just so people can see the options and then have a proper vote on it.The understanding would be that everyone knows that if we vote to move forward, then on "d-day", the mods will lock all the threads in the legacy forum, but keep them viewable/linkable, preferably forever, but obviously that depends how much the forum costs you. Alternatively you could keep it up for a year or so, and encourage anyone who wants to, to preserve threads using the "print" function - maybe you could also create a mechanism for people to download entire sections as zip files. Or a way to save all the posts you have made as a user.I think the really important thing if we do vote on new forum systems is for it not just to be a hard "yes/no" vote. There has to be a "not yet - but I like where this is going" option as well.
People will riot if there are any seismic changes to the forums.
I am not sure if this is something that has been mentioned before or is something only i am experiencing (A issue with my own computer) I have noticed that when using the forum sometime when i click on a thread it takes me to a completely different thread than i clicked on sometimes not even in the same section.When this happens most of the time i will end up in a thread in the same section but not always, For example i could click on a thread in the SpaceX general section and end up on the SLS Updates thread or somewhere in L2 (which i am a member of) This is something that i noticed a while back but it only used to happen every now and agin, but recently it seems to be happening quite a lot. Just wondered if anyone else had experienced this at all?
A feature request: add some hysteresis when a post is edited immediately after submission. Most forums I visit do this. The benefit is that a user can post, notice a typo, and correct it straight away without their post being tagged with an "edited by User at Time" postscript.This is more friendly and removes some unnecessary noise from the forum, including the common "EDIT: typo" explanations many feel compelled to add. Some forums I see implement a timer, whereby edits made within X minutes of the original post are not tagged as such. Others additionally take into account whether the edited post is (still) the most recent in the thread.
My notification system does not seem to work anymore And I notice there seem to be no place to notify for technical problems, such as the above? No way to write to the admin?Regards,ML
Quote from: lamontagne on 04/29/2018 08:55 pmMy notification system does not seem to work anymore And I notice there seem to be no place to notify for technical problems, such as the above? No way to write to the admin?Regards,MLYou're in the right thread. Yeah, over the years, it seems to be groups of people, likely on ISPs and servers, where the notification e-mails go into your junk folder. I had a month of it late last year, but after a fair amount of "mark as not junk" it all sorted itself out and now they are all back to normal.So it's not the site, it's mail servers seeing auto e-mails from forums as spam.