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Re: Retired space shuttles' water tanks removed for ISS
« Reply #40 on: 09/01/2015 06:29 AM »
So is it fair to assume a rack will be modified for this purpose on the ground and then flown to station aboard HTV?
That is a fair assumption.

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Re: Retired space shuttles' water tanks removed for ISS
« Reply #41 on: 09/01/2015 10:29 AM »
The rack in the picture is a RSR (resupply storage rack). ZSR's have a metal ispr mount frame at the front, for the rest they are made of fabric and zippers.

The eight spaceshuttle tanks will be hardmounted with plumming in a new ispr frame on the ground. The rack that is created is called WSS (water storage system) rack. The rack will most likely be delivered by a HTV during 2017.

From 2012 a additional live support rack is planned. Instead of aditional ATV missions ESA would develop the service module for orion and would develop the ACLS-rack (advanced close live support system). The rack will perform three proceses. Electrolysis, sabatier reaction and carbon absorption and concentration. I think this rack is also planned for 2017 and it will be located in columbus O1 or A1.


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Re: Retired space shuttles' water tanks removed for ISS
« Reply #42 on: 09/03/2015 07:38 PM »
A possible 5 tank configuration, minus plumbing and mounting hardware. Quick and dirty.

ISPR internal Dimensions 79" tall, 41" wide, 33.8" deep
Tank dimensions 16" dia, 36" length.

Just a wag, but it could work with the right mounting hardware and plumbing with room to adjust in all three directions.

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Re: Retired space shuttles' water tanks removed for ISS
« Reply #43 on: 09/03/2015 08:22 PM »
This may be notional:

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Re: Retired space shuttles' water tanks removed for ISS
« Reply #44 on: 05/10/2016 11:12 PM »
Fishing for news here, seems like it's been too long since any discussion.
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Re: Retired space shuttles' water tanks removed for ISS
« Reply #45 on: 05/11/2016 07:25 PM »
Fishing for news here, seems like it's been too long since any discussion.


Stay tuned...there should be a lot of news in the Endeavour thread next week with the arrival of ET-94 in Los Angeles.
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Re: Retired space shuttles' water tanks removed for ISS
« Reply #46 on: 09/01/2016 01:18 PM »
NASA reinstalls water tank reclaimed from space shuttle Endeavour
http://www.collectspace.com/news/news-090116a-shuttle-endeavour-water-tanks.html

One year after its removal from the space shuttle Endeavour, a metal water tank has been returned by NASA to the California Science Center and reinstalled inside the retired orbiter.

The tank, which was used to collect waste water during Endeavour's missions in Earth orbit, was extracted from under the shuttle's crew cabin in August 2015, at the same time that four similar potable water tanks were also removed.

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Re: Retired space shuttles' water tanks removed for ISS
« Reply #47 on: 04/11/2017 03:45 AM »
OK they put the waste tank back in the orbiter, but what about 4 - 8 tanks that were supposed to go to the ISS? Last update was Aug 26 2015 found on Google.
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Re: Retired space shuttles' water tanks removed for ISS
« Reply #48 on: 07/14/2018 08:42 AM »
Although nothing really new on when the rack and tanks will launch, this page was updated Aug 2017
https://www.nasa.gov/feature/proposed-station-water-system-looks-to-retired-shuttles

IMO it might be prudent for NASA to poop or get off the pot, before the ISS expires about 6 years from now. I thought HTV-7 was a real candidate, clearly this is not the case.

And while slightly off topic, an ISS "replacement hardware complement" should be off the drawing board and in production now, that also remains a great unknown thanks to SLS delays and congressional shortsightedness.

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Re: Retired space shuttles' water tanks removed for ISS
« Reply #49 on: 07/17/2018 02:11 PM »

And while slightly off topic, an ISS "replacement hardware complement" should be off the drawing board and in production now, that also remains a great unknown thanks to SLS delays and congressional shortsightedness.


There is no such thing or reason for it.

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Re: Retired space shuttles' water tanks removed for ISS
« Reply #50 on: 07/19/2018 07:44 AM »
So by your reasoning Jim, after ISS is EOM, no-one will have a need to perform experiments in a Lab controlled environment for any reason.

What do you suggest, we just give up doing experiments?

And I'm still waiting for some good news about the tanks final config in a rack, what they will launch on, and the activation date for initial use.
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Re: Retired space shuttles' water tanks removed for ISS
« Reply #51 on: 07/19/2018 10:11 AM »
By his/my reasoning a NASA led ISS-2 will be operational ca. 2040.
Therefore no need for it.
The money might buy you a lot of BFS with extended perpetual mission kit.

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Re: Retired space shuttles' water tanks removed for ISS
« Reply #52 on: 07/19/2018 01:05 PM »
So by your reasoning Jim, after ISS is EOM, no-one will have a need to perform experiments in a Lab controlled environment for any reason.

What do you suggest, we just give up doing experiments?



No, logic does not lead to that conclusion.  There is no need for a NASA led ISS-2.  NASA can buy services from a commercial station.

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Re: Retired space shuttles' water tanks removed for ISS
« Reply #53 on: 07/19/2018 10:37 PM »
For the record I never said "NASA Led" (see above) and by my reasoning if it does not get designed/funded/built soon there will be a gap in a new permanent station that can be used for further research and development.

Who builds it? any one!
Who funds it? any one!
Does the space user community need one of some kind? YES! Small, Large or other? who cares, work on it now!!!

This is now way off topic and belongs in another thread, lets go forward with getting the Rack with water tanks up now before it's to late. Dragging heals in the dirt does not solve the fresh water supply issues, critical or not.
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Re: Retired space shuttles' water tanks removed for ISS
« Reply #54 on: 09/20/2018 10:44 PM »
A better drawing of an 8 Tank config. The tanks are only 36" long and fit into a 40" deep Hard ISPR no problem.
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