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Edit January 20, 2022: a.k.a. VVC1

LARES 2
Orbit: 5899 km circular, 70.16°

Vega C
All stages improved: P120C (shared with Ariane 6) / Zefiro-Z40 / Zefiro-Z9A / AVUM+

Cross-posts re: launch
Mid-2020
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Vega-C’s inaugural flight is scheduled for mid-2020, carrying the Italian Space Agency’s LARES 2 satellite, a large retroreflector for the study of general relativity related to Earth’s gravitational field.

End of September 2020?
According to someone working at the CSG, Vega C will not liftoff until the end of September 2020. There should be an ignition of the P120 first stage in the coming months.
This date will depend on whether or not flight VV-16 is successful.
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Re: Vega C maiden flight - LARES 2 - 2020
« Reply #1 on: 05/12/2020 08:36 pm »
Cross-posts:
At Avio, the Vega-C launches seem to be as VC-xx designated. But maybe Arianespace does it differently.

http://avio-data.teleborsa.it/2020%2fAVIO-FY-2019-Results_Def_20200326_094744.pdf

page 21
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•Vega production materials secured for 2020:
–materials available for VV17, VV18, VV19
–Propellant casting for VV19 may be subject to some restrictions
–Vega C maiden flight ok, VC02 materials available , few exceptions

I've listed the names of the payloads with the missions:

- VV-18: LARES-2? First Vega C? (October 21)

I don't know what Vega C's flight designation for Arianespace will be. If we stay logical, it would still be "Vol Vega - VV" (Vega Flight), but maybe they'll change.
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Re: Vega C maiden flight - LARES 2 - 2020
« Reply #2 on: 05/13/2020 05:27 pm »
Most likely there are launch vehicle numbers and launch mission numbers.
All Ariane launchers had a VA-xxx mission number. Ariane5 launchers have a VA-5xx(x)  vehicle number.
I think Arianespace will use VV-xx mission numbers for all Vega launches. Avio uses vehicle numbers: VV for Vega, VC for Vega C. Most likely VE for Vega E. I wonder what they plan to use for Vega Light (C or E).
I'm happy the maiden Vega C launch is still planned for 2020.

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Re: Vega C maiden flight - LARES 2 - 2020
« Reply #3 on: 05/13/2020 06:01 pm »
Most likely there are launch vehicle numbers and launch mission numbers.
All Ariane launchers had a VA-xxx mission number. Ariane5 launchers have a VA-5xx(x)  vehicle number.
I think Arianespace will use VV-xx mission numbers for all Vega launches. Avio uses vehicle numbers: VV for Vega, VC for Vega C. Most likely VE for Vega E. I wonder what they plan to use for Vega Light (C or E).
I'm happy the maiden Vega C launch is still planned for 2020.
By itself I've seen batted around VL for Vega Lite.

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Re: Vega C maiden flight - LARES 2 - 2020
« Reply #4 on: 05/13/2020 07:25 pm »
Most likely there are launch vehicle numbers and launch mission numbers.
All Ariane launchers had a VA-xxx mission number. Ariane5 launchers have a VA-5xx(x)  vehicle number.
I think Arianespace will use VV-xx mission numbers for all Vega launches. Avio uses vehicle numbers: VV for Vega, VC for Vega C

Ariane-5 mission has VA-XXX designation, but rocket itself - L5XXX. For Vega they are VV-XX and VGXX respectively.

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Re: Vega C maiden flight - LARES 2 - 2020
« Reply #5 on: 05/13/2020 07:28 pm »
Vega C first flight will be VV-19, and will take off on December 13, 2020.

zubenelgenubi edit/add:
I've listed the names of the payloads with the missions:

- VV-19: LARES-2, first Vega C (December 23)
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Re: Vega C VV19, maiden flight - LARES 2 - December 23, 2020
« Reply #6 on: 05/13/2020 08:27 pm »
But how to distinguish between Vega C lite and Vega E lite in the transition period. Most likely 2024-2026.
But the development decision for the other Vega versions still has to be made. Let's first get Vega launching again, and than transition to Vega C. Or is the 700kg payload difference between Vega and Vega C enough to operate them side by side. (Vega upgrade to P88, Z40, Z9A AVUM+)

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Re: Vega C VV19, maiden flight - LARES 2 - December 23, 2020
« Reply #7 on: 05/16/2020 08:02 pm »
Vega C first flight will be VV-19, and will take off on December 13, 2020.

Avio is more careful with the date.
Avio Q1 2020 Highlights page 8

http://avio-data.teleborsa.it/2020%2fAvio-Q1-2020-Highlights_v_def_20200514_063658.pdf

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Upcoming flight activity
•VV16 SSMS mid June
•VV17 August
•VV18 by year end
•Vega C launch campaign to start by year end
•Ariane 5 VA253 end of July
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Development
•Vega C ground qualification review 3 rd quarter
•P120 QM2 test ( third and last static firing test for Ariane 6) by year end

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Re: Vega C VV19, maiden flight - LARES 2 - December 23, 2020
« Reply #8 on: 06/02/2020 04:18 pm »
Cross-post re: VV19:
https://tass.ru/kosmos/8622869
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MOSCOW, June 2. / TASS /. The launch of the new European Vega C rocket is scheduled for 2020, the date will be determined after the resumption of launch activity at the Kourou Cosmodrome in French Guiana. This was reported by TASS head of the representative office of the European Space Agency (ESA) in Russia Rene Pischel.

"The first launch of the Vega C rocket is planned for 2020, the general launch schedule will be approved after the launch activity at the Kourou spaceport resumes this summer with the launch of the Vega rocket," Pishel said.

According to the head of the ESA representative office, the first Vega C will put into orbit the Italian geodetic satellite LARES 2 (Laser Relativity Satellite), designed to study the general theory of relativity and space geodesy.
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Re: Vega C VV19, maiden flight - LARES 2 - NET 2021
« Reply #9 on: 07/01/2020 03:48 pm »
Vega Flight VV16 – the SSMS Proof of Concept mission: Postponed until August 17, 2020
July 1, 2020
Despite this delay, Arianespace is maintaining the target of performing three Vega launches during 2020.
VV16, 17, and 18 in 2020.
Apparently, it takes a minimum of approximately 6 weeks to turn around the Vega launch complex.  VV19 delayed into 2021.
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Re: Vega C VV19, maiden flight - LARES 2 - early 2021
« Reply #10 on: 09/05/2020 07:46 am »
EDIT: SFN Launch Schedule, dated September 4
"Early 2021"

Planned launches:
Date - Satellite(s) - Rocket - Launch Site - Time (UTC)

2021
December 2020 January - Star One D2, Eutelsat Quantum - Ariane 5 ECA (VA254) - Kourou ELA-3
December 23, 2020 Early - LARES 2 - Vega C (inaugural flight) (VV19) - Kourou ZLV
December 15, 2020 Early - Galileo-FOC FM23, Galileo-FOC FM24 - Soyuz ST-B/Fregat-MT (VS26) - Kourou ELS
Late 2020 December 23, 2020 Early Q1 - Pleiades Neo 1, Pleiades Neo 2, nanosats - Vega С (VV19) (VV20) - Kourou ZLV

Changes on May 12th
Changes on May 15th
Changes on July 1st
Changes on August 31st
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Re: Vega C VV19, maiden flight - LARES 2 - mid-2021
« Reply #11 on: 09/15/2020 09:07 pm »
https://spacenews.com/vega-c-debut-slips-to-mid-2021/ dated September 14
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Ranzo said Avio now expects just one more Vega launch this year, in November. Next year Avio plans three Vega launches, plus a “mid-2021” debut of Vega C, he said.

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Giulio Ranzo, CEO of Avio, said the company is prioritizing customers of the current Vega rocket that have been waiting since last year for that vehicle to resume operation.

“We had a slowdown which moved everything on the right,” Ranzo said during a Sept. 14 earnings call.
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Ranzo said Avio had to suspend some Vega C development activities in order to prioritize customer missions. Avio’s supply chain also slowed down due to the coronavirus pandemic and the lack of launches while Vega was grounded, he said.
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Re: Vega C maiden flight - LARES 2 - mid-2021
« Reply #12 on: 10/13/2020 11:39 pm »
VV19 designation is assigned to another flight.
Cross-posts:
Arianespace offers new shared smallsat payload opportunities on its Vega launcher; the next mission already is fully booked, dated October 13
[see attached .png file]
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Planned launches:
Date - Satellite(s) - Rocket - Launch Site - Time (UTC)

2021
January - CERES 1, ELO, Lemur-2y (xTBD), Myriota 1, Myriota 2, Myriota 3, NORSAT 3, NanoAvionics sat + multiple sats - Vega (VV18) - Kourou ZLV (or Q1)
Early - Galileo-FOC FM23, Galileo-FOC FM24 - Soyuz ST-B/Fregat-MT (VS26?) - Kourou ELS
January February - Star One D2, Eutelsat Quantum - Ariane 5 ECA (VA254) - Kourou ELA-3
Q2 - CERES 1, CERES 2, CERES 3 + multiple sats - Vega (VV19) - Kourou ZLV
Midyear - LARES 2 - Vega C (inaugural flight) (VV19)  - Kourou ZLV
Q4 - SSMS flight 2 - Vega C - Kourou ZLV

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Changes on October 12th
Changes on October 13th
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Re: Vega C maiden flight - LARES 2 - mid-2021
« Reply #13 on: 10/29/2020 05:18 pm »
Cross-post; my bold:
ESA lays out roadmap to Vega-C and Ariane 6 flights, dated October 29

Vega C

Vega-C is a more powerful and versatile version of the Vega launch vehicle currently operating at Europe’s Spaceport in French Guiana. Vega-C’s maiden flight is planned for June 2021.

Vega was on track for its return to flight, after the July 2019 failure, with its mission (VV16) in March 2020, but Europe’s Spaceport had to be closed due to COVID-19 safety measures. The VV16 launch campaign resumed in May but several further launch attempts were halted due to unfavourable weather. Vega’s return to flight, with the new SSMS dispenser carrying 53 satellites, was successfully launched on 2 September.

Between February and September no activities for the preparation of Vega-C were possible in the Vega mobile gantry while it housed the P80 solid rocket motor in readiness for flight VV16, due to safety constraints.

The qualification at system and subsystems level is currently under finalisation.

As from October, all the new solid motors for Vega-C have completed qualification testing. The Zefiro-40 solid rocket motor for Vega-C completed qualification tests in 2019. The final test of the P120C took place successfully on 7 October.

Two Vega flights, VV17 and VV18, are planned before Vega-C. Activities for the modification of the mobile gantry for Vega-C, such as modifications of the fluids networks as well as connection and installation of the new control bench for Vega-C, will have to start after VV18 now planned early February.

Vega-C maiden flight is planned for June 2021.

Vega-C is a project managed and funded by the European Space Agency. Avio is the industrial prime contractor. Arianespace commercialises Vega-C.
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Re: Vega C VV19(?), maiden flight - LARES 2 - mid-2021
« Reply #14 on: 01/18/2021 07:36 pm »
Cross-post:
I got some information about the flights for this year:

VV19 - late June or early July, likely Vega C first flight
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Re: Vega C VV2X, maiden flight - LARES 2 - early 2022
« Reply #15 on: 03/19/2021 10:37 pm »
Cross-posts; first Vega-C launch delayed to early 2022:
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Vega-C rocket delayed to early 2022 as current Vega customers, especially one, are given priority

Posted by Peter B. de Selding | Mar 19, 2021 | Limited, Satellite Operators

PARIS — Europe’s Vega-C rocket’s inaugural flight has slipped to early 2022 to increase the likelihood that high-profile customers awaiting launch on the current Vega are delivered to orbit this year.

First among equals in this customer lineup is the French Defense Ministry, whose three Ceres signals-intelligence satellites are scheduled for launch on a Vega late this year. The satellites will fly in formation in low Earth orbit.

https://www.spaceintelreport.com/vega-c-rocket-delayed-to-early-2022-as-current-vega-customers-especially-one-are-given-priority/

The Vega-C lost the fight. The Vega customers Airbus and DGA have prevailed.
So most likely 2021 Vega VV18 Pleiades NEO 1, Vega VV19 Pleiades NEO 2, Vega VV20 CERES and then 2022 the Vega-C.

The same from Avio, no Vega-C in 2021.

p. 24
http://avio-data.teleborsa.it/2021%2f2020-FY-Results-v_DEF_20210319_060013.pdf

Therefore, no "earlier" than VV21.
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Re: Vega C VV2X, maiden flight - LARES 2 - early 2022
« Reply #16 on: 05/12/2021 09:44 am »
Avio Q1 2021 Highlights
http://avio-data.teleborsa.it/2021%2fAvio-Q1-2021-Highlights_v8_20210511_070935.pdf

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Next steps for a busy2021
•Upcoming flight activity
 •VV19 3rdquarter 2021
 •VV20 4thquarter 2021
•Adaptation of ground systems for Vega C
 •Vega C -launch campaign to start 4thquarter 2021

Incomprehensible: Why was the "•Adaptation of ground systems for Vega C" not carried out in the  breaks after Vega VV15 or VV17?
That means more weeks of delay for the Vega-C maiden flight.
So far, the CSG schedule for Q4 looks very tight.
Vega VV20, 2x Soyuz, 2x Ariane 5 (at least).
So it is not certain that Vega VV20 with CERES will actually take off in October.

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Re: Vega C VV2X, maiden flight - LARES 2 - early 2022
« Reply #17 on: 05/13/2021 06:53 am »
Incomprehensible: Why was the "•Adaptation of ground systems for Vega C" not carried out in the  breaks after Vega VV15 or VV17?

Perhaps they need to wait until after VV20. Is that the last flight of the standard Vega?
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Re: Vega C VV2X, maiden flight - LARES 2 - early 2022
« Reply #18 on: 05/13/2021 07:18 am »
Incomprehensible: Why was the "•Adaptation of ground systems for Vega C" not carried out in the  breaks after Vega VV15 or VV17?

Perhaps they need to wait until after VV20. Is that the last flight of the standard Vega?
AFAIU some works were already carried out however what remains cannot be completed until Vega is done. The fixed Launcher Umbilical Mast cannot complete permanent reconfiguration until Vega is done then the platforms have final works and the blockhouse and the cable trays cabling and such get an upgrade.
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Re: Vega C VV2X, maiden flight - LARES 2 - early 2022
« Reply #19 on: 05/13/2021 07:39 am »
Incomprehensible: Why was the "•Adaptation of ground systems for Vega C" not carried out in the  breaks after Vega VV15 or VV17?

Perhaps they need to wait until after VV20. Is that the last flight of the standard Vega?

By my calculation there are 22 Vegas.
SAB Launch Service has also #23 in its current schedule, but I think there's a mistake in there.
The problem is not so much the maiden flight. But rather the following time-critical Vega-C missions, CSG-2 and Pleiades NEO 5 + 6.
These first two operational Vega-Cs recently disappeared from the SAB schedule. mysterious
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Re: Vega C VV2X, maiden flight - LARES 2 - early 2022
« Reply #20 on: 05/13/2021 05:39 pm »
Cross-post:
https://spaceflightnow.com/launch-schedule/
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Early 2022 • Vega C • LARES 2
Launch time: TBD
Launch site: ZLV, Kourou, French Guiana
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Re: Vega-C VV21, maiden flight - LARES 2 - Q1 2022
« Reply #21 on: 07/23/2021 07:12 pm »
Cross-post; my bold:
According to this press release, the maiden flight of Vega-C is expected by the first quarter of 2022
https://www.avio.com/press-release/signed-euro-1188-million-contract-esa-development-vega
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This contract marks the beginning of a new phase in the development of Vega E (Evolution), an improved and even more powerful version of Vega C, whose Maiden Flight is expected by the first quarter of 2022.
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Re: Vega-C VV22(?), maiden flight - LARES 2 - Q1 2022
« Reply #22 on: 07/29/2021 12:06 pm »
Cross-post:
According to the SAB SSMS rideshare option list, the Vega-C maiden flight isn't VV21.
VV21, Vega with Vampire 1194 rideshare structure. Q1 2022 to a non SSO orbit, payloads to 620km LTDN 17:30.
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Re: Vega-C VV22(?), maiden flight - LARES 2 - Q1 2022
« Reply #23 on: 08/03/2021 09:17 am »
Some info about LARES2

LARES-2 (ASI)

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LARES2 (acronym for Laser RElativity Satellite #2) is the second satellite of the LARES “group. Its main purpose is the precise measurement of the frame-dragging effect of inertial frames, generated by mass-energy currents such as the rotation of a body with mass, as provided for by the theory of general relativity.

Compared to its precursor LAGEOS and LARES missions, the main scientific purpose of the LARES 2 mission is to significantly increase the accuracy of the frame-dragging measurement (also known as Lense-Thirring effect) in a satellite’s orbit around the Earth, as well as the measurement of the Earth’s gravitomagnetic field, with an accuracy of few parts per thousand.

The characterization of the gravitomagnetic field and the concept of frame-dragging are, in fact, two cornerstones of Einstein’s theory of general relativity. Such unprecedented level of accuracy will be essential, both to improve the limits of some fundamental physics concepts, such as those relating to the theory of strings, and to model the orbital effects generated by the collision of rotating black holes, of the same type as those observed by the LIGO interferometers. Finally, the LARES2 mission will also allow to conduct some new fundamental physics experiments and will provide important estimates in the field of space geodesy and geodynamics.

LARES2: the massive "ball" to further verify Einstein's Relativity Theory (OHB Italia)

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The LARES2 System, developed by OHB Italia under the ASI (Italian Space Agency) flag, will be the payload of VEGA C launcher qualification flight scheduled within the end of the current year 2021.

The most important part of the payload is the LAser RElativity Satellite 2, known as LARES2, a passive satellite, composed of a high density nickel alloy sphere of 424 mm (diameter) and weighing about 300 kg, on which 303 retroreflectors are installed. It will be placed in orbit at an altitude of about 6.000 km.

The main purpose of the satellite is to allow the measurement of an orbital disturbance, predicted by general relativity theory, called “Frame-Dragging” or “Lense Thirring” effect, which foresees that a spinning massive body, like a planet, exert a drag on the spacetime, modifying its satellite orbits.

The orbital position of LARES2 will be tracked by laser pulses emitted from ground stations. They will hit the satellite and consequently the retroreflectors will send the signal back, allowing the station to measure the exact position.

A fundamental element of the LARES 2 System is the retaining mechanism assembly that keeps the spheric satellite locked during launch and releases it once it has arrived in orbit. This is a complex and non-conventional device clamping the 300 kg satellite when subjected to the high launch accelerations, without using standard fixation elements, as bolted junctions.

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Re: Vega-C VV22(?), maiden flight - LARES 2 - Q1 2022
« Reply #24 on: 08/04/2021 09:35 am »
More payloads

https://www.asi.it/en/earth-science/lares-2/

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On the occasion of the launch, along with LARES2 as main payload, six CubeSats selected by the European Space Agency and manufactured by European universities and research centres will be placed in the same orbit. These include Astrobio (manufactured by the INAF and the School of Aerospace Engineering) and GreenCube (manufactured by the University of Rome La Sapienza), whose development has also been promoted and developed by the ASI.

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A micro-garden 6000 km from Earth to grow fresh vegetables for future space missions. GREENCUBE[1], designed by an all-Italian scientific team, for the first time will be aboard a mini-satellite to be launched during the inaugural flight of VEGA-C, the official carrier of the European Space Agency (ESA)

The prototype,  developed by ENEA,  University of Naples Federico II and University of Rome La Sapienza as coordinator and holder of an agreement with the Italian Space Agency (ASI), measures 30 x 10 x 10 cm[2] and is based on a closed-cycle hydroponic system guaranteeing a complete 20-day testing growth cycle of micro-vegetables, selected from those best suited to withstand extreme extraterrestrial conditions.

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AstroBio CubeSat (ABCS) is a 3U CubeSat (100×100×340 mm) selected by European Space Agency (ESA) to be launched on fall 2020 with the Vega C qualification maiden flight, as piggy back of the ASI LARES2 satellite. ABCS will be deployed in an approximately circular orbit at 5900 km altitude and 70° of inclination spending a significant amount of the orbital period within the harsh internal Van Allen belt, close to its maximum. ABCS will host a laboratory payload based on an innovative lab-on chip technology suitable for research in astrobiology. The objective is to test in space environment a highly integrated laboratory using immunoassay techniques exploiting chemiluminescence detection.

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Re: Vega-C VV22, maiden flight - LARES 2 - Q1 2022
« Reply #25 on: 11/10/2021 11:44 am »
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Re: Vega-C VV22?, maiden flight - LARES 2 - NLT March 2022
« Reply #26 on: 11/16/2021 11:37 am »
Cross-post:
Latest Vega launch paves way for Vega-C
16/11/2021
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Today’s mission will be followed by Vega’s successor, Vega-C, which will take its first flight in 2022. This starts the transition to Vega-C where for a period, both vehicles will be used.
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Re: Vega-C VV22?, maiden flight - LARES 2 - NLT March 2022
« Reply #27 on: 11/16/2021 08:48 pm »
From Stephen Clark's article on the VV20 launch:

French military intelligence satellites launch on Vega rocket (bolds mine)

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The next Vega launch will be the debut flight of an upgraded version of the rocket called the Vega C, with more powerful first and second stage motors, and a liquid-fueled fourth stage with more fuel capacity. The Vega C also has a larger payload shroud to expand the volume available for satellite passengers.

The Vega C’s inaugural launch is scheduled no earlier than April from French Guiana. Teams at the spaceport will spend the next couple months completing modifications to the launch pad’s mobile gantry to accommodate the larger rocket.

“This is the latest Vega success before we welcome Vega C and new mission opportunities through increased performance and competitiveness,” said Renato Lafranconi, Vega program manager at the European Space Agency. “ESA will oversee this transition, build on the accomplishments of Vega and prepare future adaptations for a Vega E suitable for a rapidly evolving and competitive market, to continue guaranteed access to space for Europe.”

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Re: Vega-C VV22?, maiden flight - LARES 2 - NET April 2022
« Reply #29 on: 12/12/2021 05:57 pm »
New equipment from Avio has arrived to Kourou. Something for Vega C maiden flight?  ::)

https://twitter.com/esa_sts/status/1469311899653312515

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Re: Vega-C VV22?, maiden flight - LARES 2 - NET April 2022
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Re: Vega-C VV22?, maiden flight - LARES 2 - NET April 2022
« Reply #31 on: 12/13/2021 02:38 pm »
First Vega-C rocket stages reach Europe’s Spaceport

The first elements of ESA’s new-generation Vega-C launch vehicle have reached Europe’s Spaceport in French Guiana.

Vega-C will replace the current Vega launch vehicle to offer more payload volume in the fairing, greater performance, for a wider range of missions at a price per kilogram of payload similar to Vega. Its first flight is planned in the first half of 2022 to launch LARES-2 and several CubeSats as secondary passengers.

MN-Colibri cargo ship reached Pariacabo harbour on 9 December carrying Vega-C’s second stage Zefiro-40, and third stage Zefiro-9 solid rocket motor from Avio’s Colleferro factory in Italy. Avio is prime contractor to ESA for the development of Vega-C launcher system and ground proximity means. 

The Zefiro-40 is a new motor developed and manufactured by Avio. It is 7.6 m long and 2.4 m in diameter. It will burn for 92 seconds using about 36 t of solid propellant to generate an average thrust of 1300 kN which is four times greater than that of an engine of a modern passenger aircraft. This will propel Vega-C to an altitude of about 123 km.

The Zefiro-9 is 3.9 m long and 1.9 m in diameter. It will power Vega-C’s third stage burning 10 t of solid propellant to take Vega-C to an altitude of about 190 km. It is an advanced version with a new igniter with respect to the one used on the Vega launch vehicle currently operating at Europe’s Spaceport.

Further elements for Vega-C are expected to be shipped to French Guiana in 2022. These include: the first stage P120C insulated motor case which is also the booster for ESA’s upcoming Ariane 6 launch vehicle; the upper stage AVUM+; and interstage structures.

https://www.esa.int/ESA_Multimedia/Images/2021/12/First_Vega-C_rocket_stages_reach_Europe_s_Spaceport

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Re: Vega-C VV22?, maiden flight - LARES 2 - NET April 2022
« Reply #32 on: 12/16/2021 06:41 pm »
Cross-post:
https://www.avio.com/news-events/esa-and-avio-signed-contract-advance-vega-c-competitiveness

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ESA’s Vega-C launch vehicle will fly in the second quarter of 2022 ...
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Re: Vega-C VV22?, maiden flight - LARES 2 - NET May 2022
« Reply #33 on: 12/17/2021 03:57 pm »
Cross-post:
https://www.avio.com/news-events/esa-and-avio-signed-contract-advance-vega-c-competitiveness

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ESA’s Vega-C launch vehicle will fly in the second quarter of 2022 ...
[dated Dec 16]

late March Soyuz VS28,  April Ariane 5 VA257,
then Q2 probably means NET May, it's not early 2022,

Inaugural rocket's shipment process is starting:

https://twitter.com/Avio_Group/status/1462808055024869384
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Re: Vega-C VV22?, maiden flight - LARES 2 - NET late April 2022
« Reply #34 on: 12/21/2021 05:59 pm »
The journey of #VegaC towards its maiden flight continues: its second and third stages, Zefiro 40 and Zefiro 9, have arrived to @EuropeSpacePort  in Kourou. Other elements will be shipped in early 2022.

https://twitter.com/Avio_Group/status/1472892035623440394

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Re: Vega-C VV22?, maiden flight - LARES 2 - NET late April 2022
« Reply #35 on: 01/09/2022 07:05 pm »
Cross-post; article dated Jan 2
Celesta = Robusta-1D
Robusta MTCube 2 = Robusta-1E

https://www.midilibre.fr/2022/01/02/labecedaire-de-ce-qui-nous-attend-a-montpellier-cette-annee-2022-10023040.php
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The Montpellier University Space Center, Van Halen Foundation, will put the finishing touches on the Robusta-3A Méditerranée nano satellite, which will be tasked with anticipating Cévennes episodes through meteorological records. The small craft, the size of three Rubik's cubes in a row, could be sent into orbit in 2023.

Two nano satellites “made in Montpellier” will take off this year aboard Vega C, from the Guyanese space center in Kourou. They are called Robusta MTCube 2 and Celesta and are tasked with different analyzes on the memories for the first and the radiative environment in low orbit for the second.
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Re: Vega-C VV21?, maiden flight - LARES 2 - NET late April 2022
« Reply #36 on: 01/19/2022 11:35 am »
From DG Aschbacher Annual Press Conference (18/01/2022)

https://esamultimedia.esa.int/docs/corporate/JA_ESA_Press_Conference_18_Jan_2022.pdf

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Vega C Mayden Flight May 2022
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The journey of #VegaC towards its maiden flight continues: few days ago, its solid propellant motor P120C was activated and transferred from Regulus to @EuropeSpacePort
 EUP/K facilities ahead of flight #VV21 (#VVC1)

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Re: Vega-C VV21, maiden flight - LARES 2 - May 2022
« Reply #38 on: 03/02/2022 01:40 am »
Volga-Dnepr An-124 transport aircraft are currently not available to ship satellites; not-Russian transports are, particularly for smaller satellites?

I haven't seen any reports on Volga-Dnepr being banned from transporting satellite but the closure of EU airspace to Russian aircraft causes challenges.
https://twitter.com/vonderleyen/status/1497973334847414278
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Volga-Dneiper An-124 transport aircraft are currently not available to ship satellites; not-Russian transports are, particularly for smaller satellites?

I haven't seen any reports on Volga-Dnepr being banned from transporting satellite but the closure of EU airspace to Russian aircraft causes challenges.
https://twitter.com/vonderleyen/status/1497973334847414278

From Arianespace updates I have seen quite a few of the satellites using regular Boeing 747 freighters, especially those flying on Vega.
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Re: Vega-C VV21, maiden flight - LARES 2 - May 2022
« Reply #40 on: 03/02/2022 06:54 pm »
Volga-Dneiper An-124 transport aircraft are currently not available to ship satellites; not-Russian transports are, particularly for smaller satellites?

I haven't seen any reports on Volga-Dnepr being banned from transporting satellite but the closure of EU airspace to Russian aircraft causes challenges.
https://twitter.com/vonderleyen/status/1497973334847414278

From Arianespace updates I have seen quite a few of the satellites using regular Boeing 747 freighters, especially those flying on Vega.

And ships (ADM-Aeolus, JWST,...).

https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=27667.msg1831359#msg1831359

https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=49417.msg2299883#msg2299883
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Re: Vega-C VV21, maiden flight - LARES 2 - May 2022
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Il 23 e il 24 marzo 2022 si è tenuta nella sede di OHB Italia - a Milano - la Pre-Shipment Review, nel corso della quale l’Agenzia Spaziale Italiana ha verificato lo stato del Sistema LARES2 e ne ha autorizzato la spedizione presso il sito di lancio, lo spazioporto europeo di Kourou in Guyana Francese.


Il Sistema LARES2, sviluppato da OHB Italia, sotto la guida e il coordinamento dell’ASI, sarà il primo passeggero del nuovo lanciatore europeo VEGA C realizzato da AVIO, al suo volo inaugurale previsto per il maggio 2022.


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On 23 and 24 March 2022 the Pre-Shipment Review was held at the OHB Italia headquarters - in Milan, during which the Italian Space Agency checked the status of the LARES2 System and authorized its shipment to the site launch, the European spaceport of Kourou in French Guiana.


The LARES2 system, developed by OHB Italia, under the guidance and coordination of ASI, will be the first passenger of the new European VEGA C launcher built by AVIO, on its inaugural flight scheduled for May 2022.


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Re: Vega-C VV21, maiden flight - LARES 2 - May 2022
« Reply #42 on: 04/08/2022 01:16 am »
Given VA257 is now listed NET May 15, with one or both satellites to be shipped on cargo vessels 🚢 from France and India to Kourou, I predict that VV21 will be the next Kourou orbital launch.

Edit Apr 8: Maybe not?

Edit Apr 9: Apparently yes.
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Re: Vega-C VV21, maiden flight - LARES 2 - May 2022
« Reply #43 on: 04/08/2022 04:23 pm »
https://twitter.com/pbdes/status/1512333004856860672

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Re: Vega-C VV21, maiden flight - LARES 2 - June 2022
« Reply #44 on: 04/18/2022 03:23 pm »
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Getting closer to the inaugural #VegaC flight #VV21 with #LARES2 !

Start of the integration process with the #P120C solid rocket stage being transferred to the Vega mobile gantry at @EuropeSpacePort on 15 April 2022 @esa @Avio_Group @ASI_spazio @ESA_Italia

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Re: Vega-C VV21, maiden flight - LARES 2 - June 2022
« Reply #45 on: 04/22/2022 12:48 pm »
https://twitter.com/vega_sts/status/1515426709998383120

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Getting closer to the inaugural #VegaC flight #VV21 with #LARES2 !

Start of the integration process with the #P120C solid rocket stage being transferred to the Vega mobile gantry at @EuropeSpacePort on 15 April 2022 @esa @Avio_Group @ASI_spazio @ESA_Italia

Will that still work with the Vega-C launch ahead of Ariane VA257 on June 17th?
Meanwhile, June has also been confirmed for Measat-3d. VA-257 certainly has the higher priority.
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Re: Vega-C VV21, maiden flight - LARES 2 - June 2022
« Reply #46 on: 04/23/2022 05:52 pm »
ESA flickr Album Vega-C: Gearing up towards the first Vega-C flight VV21 with Lares-2

https://www.flickr.com/photos/europeanspaceagency/albums/72177720298229613/with/52015641909/




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« Reply #47 on: 04/26/2022 02:30 pm »
Vega-C: Launcher integration begins for inaugural flight VV21

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Launcher integration for the inaugural flight of Vega-C began with the P120C solid-fuel first stage being delivered to the Vega Launch Zone (Zone de Lancement Vega, or ZLV) at Europe's Spaceport in Kourou, French Guiana on 15 April 2022. P120C will also fly on Ariane 6, with two or four units serving as boosters depending on mission requirements.

The interstage segment to join the P120C first stage with the Z40 second stage followed on the 22nd.

For flight VV21, the principal payload will be LARES-2, a scientific mission of the Italian Space Agency (ASI). Also onboard will be six European research CubeSats.

Credits: ESA-Manuel Pedoussaut

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Re: Vega-C VV21, maiden flight - LARES 2 - June 2022
« Reply #48 on: 04/29/2022 11:37 am »
Sorry for this bit of discussion. Delete if not fitting here.
There shall be valid reasons why they integrate Vega C this way. Bit wouldn't if be logical to integrate the S1/2 inter-stage at the BIP where also the other components are installed onto the P120C to make the first stage.
Now it takes one or several days of integration time on the ELV launch site.
The integration timeline isn't very tight though, thus it isn't really important.
Something with striving for perfection.
 

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Re: Vega-C VV21, maiden flight - LARES 2 - June 2022
« Reply #49 on: 04/29/2022 06:47 pm »
https://www.arianespace.com/press-release/next-arianespace-launch-scheduled-for-june-22-with-ariane-5/

Next Arianespace launch scheduled for June 22 with Ariane 5
...

Am I translating correctly that Vega C VV21 only occurs after Ariane 5 VA257?
So Vega-C VV21 NET July 2022?

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« Reply #50 on: 04/29/2022 07:06 pm »
"Am I translating correctly that Vega C VV21 only occurs after Ariane 5 VA257?"

VV21 is an ESA launch whereas VA257 is an Arianespace launch, so you cannot conclude anything! ;)

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« Reply #51 on: 04/29/2022 07:22 pm »
"Am I translating correctly that Vega C VV21 only occurs after Ariane 5 VA257?"

VV21 is an ESA launch whereas VA257 is an Arianespace launch, so you cannot conclude anything! ;)

I know, that's why I asked. I assumed Arianespace would mention the Vega-C, even if it is an ESA launch.
But maybe I'm wrong.

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Re: Vega-C VV21, maiden flight - LARES 2 - June 2022
« Reply #52 on: 04/30/2022 01:21 pm »
https://twitter.com/DutchSpace/status/1520060445691887619

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As I'm Dutch, how about some Vega-C Interstage 1/2 shots at ZLV ?

The interstage in close-up. Many many screws ...
retrorockets for the first stage
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Re: Vega-C VV21, maiden flight - LARES 2 - June 2022
« Reply #54 on: 05/09/2022 08:24 pm »
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After the integration of AVUM A4, acceptance tests are underway. The first avionics and vibration tests were completed and more are being run, leading to the finalisation of the fourth stage of #VegaC, its transfer to @EuropeSpacePort  and integration on the launcher.

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Re: Vega-C VV21, maiden flight - LARES 2 - June 2022
« Reply #55 on: 05/11/2022 06:04 pm »
Vega-C stacks up for inaugural flight VV21

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Preparation for VV21, the inaugural flight of ESA’s new Vega-C rocket, continues at pace with integration of the Zefiro-9 solid-fuel third stage.

Zefiro-9 (the Vega-C third stage) is now in place on the Vega launch pad at Europe's Spaceport in French Guiana; work was carried out on 10 May 2022.

The third stage is shared with the original Vega, but for the more capable Vega-C it sits atop all-new P120C and Zefiro-40 solid-fuel stages. AVIO is the prime contractor for Vega and Vega-C development.

Next to come will be Vega-C’s fourth stage. AVUM+, which is an uprated version of Vega’s AVUM fourth stage. Its liquid-fuel engine is re-startable several times in space, which means a Vega-C flight can orbit multiple payloads to different orbits. And, after dispensing its payloads, a final AVUM+ burn will de-orbit the stage to minimize space debris.

P120C will also fly on Ariane 6, with two or four units serving as boosters depending on mission requirements. By sharing a common component, both launchers will optimise manufacturing and assembly costs. 

For flight VV21, the principal payload will be LARES-2, a scientific mission of the Italian Space Agency (ASI). Also onboard will be six European research CubeSats.

Credits: ESA-Manuel Pedoussaut

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Re: Vega-C VV21, maiden flight - LARES 2 - June 2022
« Reply #56 on: 05/11/2022 08:20 pm »
https://www.avio.com/press-release/vega-c-vicino-al-lancio-inaugurale-successo-test-motore-vega-aumento-dei-ricavi

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Vega C's inaugural launch date is scheduled for late June 2022
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Re: Vega-C VV21, maiden flight - LARES 2 - June 2022
« Reply #57 on: 05/19/2022 04:37 pm »

Looks like Vega C's first launch slipped to July
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The Vega-C inaugural launch is planned for July 2022.
https://www.esa.int/Newsroom/Press_Releases/Invitation_to_media_Join_pre-launch_press_programme_to_see_Vega-C_and_preparations_for_Ariane_6_at_Europe_s_Spaceport
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Re: Vega-C VV21, maiden flight - LARES 2 - July 2022
« Reply #58 on: 05/21/2022 08:31 pm »
https://twitter.com/Avio_Group/status/1527634078224289793

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Avum+, #VegaC @Vega_sts
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 yesterday and will be integrated on the launcher tomorrow. Meanwhile, phase 2 of the preparation for the maiden flight of our new launcher, authorized by Flight Readiness Review 2, has begun

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Re: Vega-C VV21, maiden flight - LARES 2 - July 2022
« Reply #59 on: 05/23/2022 07:48 pm »
https://twitter.com/Avio_Group/status/1528749387035312130

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Get a sneak peek of AVIO team at work to prepare for @Vega_sts
 #VegaC's maiden flight as they integrated its upper stage, Avum+, with the rest of the launcher


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Re: Vega-C VV21, maiden flight - LARES 2 - July 2022
« Reply #60 on: 05/28/2022 07:50 pm »
https://twitter.com/Avio_Group/status/1530066273199042561

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Re: Vega-C VV21, maiden flight - LARES 2 - week 1 July 2022
« Reply #61 on: 06/02/2022 03:45 pm »
SN, Arianespace narrows Vega C and Ariane 6 maiden flight windows, June 1
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Vivian Quenet, Arianespace’s managing director and head of sales for the Asia-Pacific region, announced the timetable during a fireside chat at Asia Satellite Business Week in Singapore {on June 1}.

“After that one [Ariane 5 launch] {VA257} we will have the maiden flight of the Vega C” in {the} first week of July, Quenet said, and then “towards the end of the year, we have the maiden flight of Ariane 6, which is our heavy launcher which will replace Ariane 5.”
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Re: Vega-C VV21, maiden flight - LARES 2 - week 1 July 2022
« Reply #62 on: 06/07/2022 02:50 pm »
https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/1534177342003810308
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The European Space Agency has set a date and launch time for the debut flight of the Vega C rocket: July 7, from French Guiana, at 11:13 UTC.

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Re: Vega-C VV21, maiden flight - LARES 2 - 7 July 2022
« Reply #63 on: 06/07/2022 04:16 pm »
ESA announced the launch date of the first Vega-C launch!

VV21 is scheduled to launch on July 7 at 11:13 UTC (07:13 EST). The first launch will deploy the Italian LARES-2 satellite and six European research CubeSats into orbit.

https://twitter.com/EuropeSpace360/status/1534184381635518464

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Vega-C inaugural launch: mission highlights

Animated preview of flight VV21 illustrates gantry rollout and liftoff from Europe’s Spaceport in French Guiana, stage and fairing separations, and deployment of the Italian Space Agency’s LARES-2 scientific payload and six research CubeSats. Vega-C represents a dramatic capability boost compared to its predecessor, Vega, which has flown since 2012. With new first and second stages and an uprated fourth stage, Vega-C increases performance from Vega’s 1.5 t to about 2.2 t in a reference 700 km polar orbit and handles larger payloads.

https://www.esa.int/Enabling_Support/Space_Transportation

https://dlmultimedia.esa.int/download/public/videos/2022/06/005/2206_005_AR_EN.mp4
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https://twitter.com/Avio_Group/status/1535301024692543488

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The #VegaC @Vega_sts
 maiden flight campaign doesn't stop! The #Lares2 payload, payload adapter and fairing are now in the processing facility. The Avio and @esa
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Comparison LARES and LARES-2.
LARES is smaller and has a higher density. The alloy consists almost entirely of tungsten.
LARES-2 has a lower density. The metal ball is made of the Ni-Mo-Cr alloy Haynes 242.
Edit: Haynes 242 was examined. The actual Ni-alloy used is still unknown.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/350459816_Haynes_242_Alloy_for_Lares_2_Satellite
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According to the link below LARES 2 has a mass of only 295 kg and a diameter of 0.424 m. However, it will going to a 6000 km 70° orbit.

https://www.lares-mission.com/LARES_2.asp
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According to the link below LARES 2 has a mass of only 295 kg and a diameter of 0.424 m. However, it will going to a 6000 km 70° orbit.

https://www.lares-mission.com/LARES_2.asp

Asi once mentioned 395 kg there. ( I can't reach the original ASI page at the moment. )
https://newspaceglobal.com/pre-shipment-review-held-on-lares2-platform-for-first-vega-c-launch
However, that was probably a mistake.
295 or about 300 kg say other current publications.

...
LARES-2 has a lower density. The metal ball is made of the Ni-Mo-Cr alloy Haynes 242.
Edit: Haynes 242 was examined. The actual Ni-alloy used is still unknown.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/350459816_Haynes_242_Alloy_for_Lares_2_Satellite

I may have gotten the alloy wrong. The paper published above concludes, that the time until the launch is probably too short, to using Haynes 242 for LARES-2. (not fully understood)
Interesting nonetheless, the paper is from March 2021! Obviously LARES-2 was not yet built at that time.
???  :(
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Vega C update (now with an authorized image): The LARES 2 primary payload and secondary payloads have been successfully installed onto the payload adapter by teams from @OHB_SE and @Avio. The flight is currently slated for 7 July at 08:13 local time.

https://twitter.com/AndrewParsonson/status/1537017940624789505

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A few other cool images. Credit: ESA - M. Pedoussaut..

https://twitter.com/AndrewParsonson/status/1537019270084845568

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Vega-C set for inaugural launch
17/06/2022

ESA’s new medium-lift Vega-C rocket is nearly ready for its inaugural flight, with its four fully-stacked stages now ready for payload integration, final checks and launch from Europe’s Spaceport in French Guiana.

Flight VV21 will lift off as soon as 7 July, pending suitable conditions for launch.

Vega-C represents a dramatic capability boost compared to its predecessor, Vega, which has flown since 2012. With new first and second stages and an uprated fourth stage, Vega-C increases performance from Vega’s 1.5 t to about 2.2 t in a reference 700 km polar orbit.

Vega-C features a new, more powerful first stage, P120C, based on Vega’s P80. Atop that is a new second stage, Zefiro-40, and then the same Zefiro-9 third stage as used on Vega. 

The re-ignitable upper stage is also improved. AVUM+ has increased liquid propellant capacity, to deliver payloads to multiple orbits depending on mission requirements and to allow for longer operational time in space, to enable extended missions.

The P120C motor will do double service, with either two or four units acting as strap-on boosters for Ariane 6. Sharing this component streamlines industrial efficiency and improves cost-effectiveness of both launchers.

With its larger main stages and bigger fairing – which doubles the payload volume compared to Vega – Vega-C measures 34.8 m high, nearly 5 m taller than Vega.

The new launcher configuration delivers a significant improvement in launch system flexibility. Vega-C can orbit larger satellites, two main payloads or can accommodate various arrangements for rideshare missions. ESA’s upcoming Space Rider return-to-Earth vehicle will be launched to orbit on Vega-C.

https://www.esa.int/Enabling_Support/Space_Transportation/Vega/Vega-C_set_for_inaugural_launch
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ESA’s new medium-lift #VegaC rocket, built by @Avio_Group , is nearly ready for its first flight. Flight #VV21 will lift off as soon as 7 July, pending suitable conditions for launch. The main payload is LARES-2, a mission of @ASI_spazio.

https://twitter.com/vega_sts/status/1537322854915645442

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https://www.esa.int/Enabling_Support/Space_Transportation/Vega/Vega-C_set_for_inaugural_launch
[dated April 7]

"Six CubeSats make a secondary payload package. AstroBio CubeSat (Italy) will test a solution for detecting biomolecules in space. Greencube (Italy) carries an experiment to grow plants in microgravity. ALPHA (Italy) aims to help understand phenomena related to Earth’s magnetosphere, such as the Northern and Southern Lights.

Three other CubeSats – Trisat-R (Slovenia), MTCube-2 (France) and Celesta (France) will study the effects of a harsh radiation environment on electronic systems."
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Rideshares = SSMS #4
Arianespace has updated their rideshare mission opportunities page:

https://smallsats.arianespace.com/opportunities

Vega-C rideshares:



Launches in the immediate future:

2022 Planned Launches:
Date - Satellite(s) - Rocket - Launch Site - Time (UTC)

July 13 late Jun/early Jul 2021 early 2022 Q1 NLT Mar NET Apr NET late Apr/Q2 May early?Jun late Jun Jul week 1 7 NET 13 - LARES 2, SSMS #4: ALPHA, AstroBio CubeSat (ABCS), CELESTA (ROBUSTA 1D), GreenCube, Robusta MTCube 2 (ROBUSTA 1E), Trisat-R - Vega C (VV21 VV19 VV21? VV22? VV21?) [inaugural flight] - Kourou ZLV - 13:13:17 Jul 7 11:13 NET Jul 13 11:13 Jul 13 11:13 Jul 13 12:13
(previous launch VA257 on June 22; approximately 2 weeks between CSG launches; approximately 6 weeks minimum between Vega launches)

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ESA’s new medium-lift #VegaC rocket, built by @Avio_Group , is nearly ready for its first flight. Flight #VV21 will lift off as soon as 7 July, pending suitable conditions for launch. The main payload is LARES-2, a mission of @ASI_spazio.

https://twitter.com/vega_sts/status/1537322854915645442

Can anyone upload mission patch and Vega logo shown on the photos?
 
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According to the link below LARES 2 has a mass of only 295 kg and a diameter of 0.424 m. However, it will going to a 6000 km 70° orbit.

https://www.lares-mission.com/LARES_2.asp
This LARES looks very Sci-Fi, like some kind of mega-bomb-star-destroyer from may be Star Wars :)



So, nobody have Vega-C logo?
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The #VV21 payloads have been encapsulated inside the #VegaC payload fairing.

📸ESA - M. Pedoussaut..

https://twitter.com/DELTA_V/status/1543942239570825219

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The inaugural launch of Vega-C is now scheduled for July 13, 2022.

The four stages are stacked and ready to receive the fairing with the payload.

https://twitter.com/EuropeSpace360/status/1544002238078648321

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https://www.esa.int/Enabling_Support/Space_Transportation/Vega/Vega-C_inaugural_flight_VV21_media_kit

Vega-C inaugural flight VV21 media kit (updated)

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#CallForMedia: you're invited to join a pre-launch press briefing on 7 July and witness the inaugural launch of Vega-C on 13 July, either from ESA’s ESRIN facility or online. Launch is planned for 13 July at 08:13 in French Guiana (12:13 BST/13:13 CEST)..

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#VV21 #VegaC media kit update with revised launch date, 13 July from @EuropeSpacePort..

https://twitter.com/vega_sts/status/1544316384976543749

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#VegaC payload composite with #LARES2 now sealed and ready for #VV21 from @EuropeSpacePort; roll-on 13 July!

https://twitter.com/vega_sts/status/1544714614440697862

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The @AVIO team integrated the payload fairing atop the #VegaC launcher last night ahead of its July 13 debut. The vehicle is almost ready for the @esa Launch Readiness Review.

https://twitter.com/AndrewParsonson/status/1545042689896329216

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ESA astronaut @Thom_astro visits the Vega Launch Complex - Zone de lancement Vega ( ZLV ) at Europe's Space Port in Kourou , French Guiana.

https://twitter.com/SpaceGirlLina/status/1545480998606884864
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#VV21 #VegaC more fantastic scenes from @EuropeSpacePort @esa @CNES @Arianespace (Optique Video du CSG/P. Piron) Watch the Launch..

https://twitter.com/vega_sts/status/1545457436991127555

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1 day until #VegaC launches for the first time.

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It's launch day for ESA’s new #VegaC rocket.

Follow flight #VV21 live on #ESAwebTV from 11:45 BST/12:45 CEST 👉 https://esawebtv.esa.int

Liftoff planned for 12:13 BST/13:13 CEST (08:13 Kourou time)

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We love timelines. We need timelines. Here's what's coming up for #VegaC flight #VV21 later today!

Follow @esa_sts and @vega_sts for live launch updates!

https://twitter.com/esa/status/1547141527142633474

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#VV21 Gantry is back and there's #VegaC carrying #LARES2 - just hours to launch! Watch live: broadcast begins 12:45 CEST/, launch 13:13 CEST/11:13 UTC..

https://twitter.com/vega_sts/status/1547151178420686848

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You can also watch today's #VV21 @vega_sts launch on our @YouTube channel in 3 languages PLUS a special 'No commentary/operational audio only' mode!

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Orbital Launch no.83 of 2022

VV-21 | ESA | July 13 | 0713 ET

@ESA's #VegaC, #Europe's new medium-lift, to launch on its maiden flight carrying LARES-2 (LAser RElativity Satellite-2) & 6 Cubesats for #VV21 mission from @EuropeSpacePort.

https://twitter.com/SpaceIntellige3/status/1547147001908830210

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T-15 minutes. Showing a video on Vega-C.
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Ensemble de lancément (pad) is red. Holding at T-1m29s.
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Holding for a possible green, all operators should be ready to pick up the count. How long is the window? I guess not very tight given this is an inaugural flight with relatively non-specific spacecraft.
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Re: HOLD : Vega-C VV21, maiden flight - LARES 2 - 13 July 2022
« Reply #119 on: 07/13/2022 11:15 am »
Commentators taking a break while we wait for a new launch time.
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Re: HOLD : Vega-C VV21, maiden flight - LARES 2 - 13 July 2022
« Reply #120 on: 07/13/2022 11:17 am »
Clock reset to T-4 minutes and holding.
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Re: HOLD : Vega-C VV21, maiden flight - LARES 2 - 13 July 2022
« Reply #122 on: 07/13/2022 11:36 am »
Ground systems are green again. Waiting for the go of the launch authorization

https://twitter.com/EuropeSpacePort/status/1547182046958731264
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new launch time is 12:13 utc
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Launch rescheduled to 12:13 UTC.
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Seems to be one of those "overly conservative" redline parameters that we're used to seeing in many of the first-time flows for new vehicles:

https://twitter.com/marinofrag/status/1547182078751608835
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Clock is not running?


Never mind, it is now, but there was a few seconds' delay between the DDO saying "top!" and the clock picking up. Might have been a stream thing.
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Past T-90 s.


And hold again! Now at T-84 s, for range safety and pad reds.
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Triggered by safety. Clock stopped at T-1 minute 23 seconds.
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Re: HOLD : Vega-C VV21, maiden flight - LARES 2 - 13 July 2022
« Reply #133 on: 07/13/2022 12:14 pm »
Commentators taking a break while we wait for a new launch time.
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Re: HOLD : Vega-C VV21, maiden flight - LARES 2 - 13 July 2022
« Reply #134 on: 07/13/2022 12:16 pm »
What safety were they referring to?

Is it fouled Range or a parameter that passed a redline?
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Re: HOLD : Vega-C VV21, maiden flight - LARES 2 - 13 July 2022
« Reply #135 on: 07/13/2022 12:16 pm »
Clock reset to T-4 minutes and holding.
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Re: HOLD : Vega-C VV21, maiden flight - LARES 2 - 13 July 2022
« Reply #136 on: 07/13/2022 12:21 pm »
What safety were they referring to?

Is it fouled Range or a parameter that passed a redline?

I don't know, but the red's were

Autorisation Lancement (Launch Permission)
Etat Base (Base State)
Ensemble de Lancement (Launch Set)
Sauvegarde (Backup)
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Re: HOLD : Vega-C VV21, maiden flight - LARES 2 - 13 July 2022
« Reply #137 on: 07/13/2022 12:26 pm »
In this case, per the fourth parameter you listed, there could be an issue with the backup flight software. Can’t rely on the main computer; make sure there’s enough redundancy.
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In this case, per the fourth parameter you listed, there could be an issue with the backup flight software. Can’t rely on the main computer; make sure there’s enough redundancy.

I believe "sauvegarde", or "safeguard" literally rather than "backup", is referring to range safety (also correlating it to the "Base status" and "Pad" red conditions).

By the way, the launch window for today will end in 20 minutes' time.
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New launch time of 13:13 UTC.
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New launch time of 13:13 UTC.

Last try! Crossing fingers and toes that third time is charm :)
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13:13(:17) UTC on July 13th launch time. No superstitious allowed in the range!
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Lighting arrestor masts and rocket tower were lengthened because of Vega-C being taller than Vega.
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Through T-83 s.
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P120C qualified now for Ariane 6, pending full post-flight review :)
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First stage separation.

T+3 minutes.
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Second stage separation.

Third stage ignition.

Fairing separation.
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Very nice "whipped cream" swirls (actually RTV) just in front of the rocketcam :)
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Z9 third stage is the same as the regular Vega, so this stage of the flight should be exactly the same as any of the previous flight's. AVUM is different though, in its AVUM+ form, so there are still new parts to be qualified.
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T+7 minutes. Pitch up.
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Third stage separation.

T+8 minutes.
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Wonderful, clear (70s-delayed) rocketcam views of all staging and jettison events. Should make for a great full-res post-flight reel.
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Onboard view of payloads.

T+10 minutes.
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Telemetry LOS, as foreseen. Will be picked up by the next ground station in Aussagel, on the French Pyrenees.
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Contact re-established.

T+15 minutes. AVUM+ ignites in 3 minutes 11 seconds for 4 minutes 5 second.
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One minute to ignition.
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Ignition.
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Ignition.

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Ignition +2 minutes.
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Cutoff. Nominal parameters.
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T+23 minutes. Confirmation of AVUM+ cutoff.
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The coverage today, I must say, is an enormous departure (in the good sense) from the cringy "Road to Space" nonsense we had to withstand during the Ariane launches lately. Commentators are good-humored, witty, knowledgeable... and they show the rocket and the people working on it, not some random uninterested commentators.

EDIT: An explanation kindly offered by Eric Berger: https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/1547215952676536320
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T+25 minutes. Commentators taking a break. Its late here so I'm off to bed! Best of luck to ESA for the upcoming events!

01:14:03 AVUM+ 2nd ignition
01:23:04 AVUM+ cut-off
01:24:06 Main P/L separation
01:35:46 AVUM+ 3rd ignition
01:35:57 AVUM+ cut-off
02:07:04 AVUM+ 4th ignition
02:07:16 AVUM+ cut-off
02:09:56 1st CubeSat separation
02:09:58 2nd CubeSat separation
02:09:59 3rd CubeSat separation
02:10:01 4th CubeSat separation
02:15:28 AVUM+ 5th ignition
02:15:32 AVUM+ cut-off
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ESA’s new Vega-C rocket lifted off for its inaugural flight VV21 at 15:13 CEST/13:13 UTC/10:13 local time from Europe’s Spaceport in French Guiana.

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ESA - S. Corvaja
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Wow, great view of the #VegaC #VV21 fairing falling away with Earth as backdrop!

https://twitter.com/esa/status/1547210011339800576
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Décollage du lanceur Vega-C VV21 le 13 juillet 2022 depuis la Zone de Lancement Vega (ZLV) du centre spatial guyanais.
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Successful mission with CubeSat deployments more than two hours after launch.  They were singing and clapping in the control center!  Now speeches. 

Congratulations Europe on the birth of what is really a brand new launch vehicle.

 - Ed Kyle
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Vega-C successfully completes inaugural flight
13/07/2022

ESA’s new Vega-C rocket has completed its inaugural flight, placing main payload LARES-2 – a scientific mission of the Italian Space Agency ASI – into its planned orbit. Six research CubeSats from France, Italy and Slovenia flew as secondary payloads. The launch caps a multi-year effort by ESA, prime contractor Avio and industrial partners in 13 ESA member states to build on the heritage of its predecessor, Vega.

Flight VV21 lifted off from Europe’s Spaceport in French Guiana at 15:13 CEST/13:13 UTC on 13 July 2022 (10:13 local time). This mission lasted about 2 hours and 15 minutes from lift-off to release of final payload and final burn of the AVUM+ upper stage engine.

Total payload mass at liftoff was approximately 474kg: 296 kg for LARES-2, with the remainder being the six CubeSats, payload adapters and carrying structures. 

Vega-C represents a dramatic capability boost compared to Vega, which has flown since 2012. With new first and second stages and an uprated fourth stage, Vega-C increases performance from Vega’s 1.5 t to about 2.3 t in a reference 700 km polar orbit.

Overseeing launch operations from mission control at the Spaceport, ESA Director of Space Transportation Daniel Neuenschwander remarked: “Today we open a new era of European launch solutions, starting with Vega-C and to be complemented by Ariane 6.”

Vega-C features a new, more powerful first stage, P120C, based on Vega’s P80. Atop that is a new second stage, Zefiro-40, and then the same Zefiro-9 third stage as used on Vega.  

The re-ignitable upper stage is also improved. AVUM+ has increased liquid propellant capacity, to deliver payloads to multiple orbits depending on mission requirements and to allow for longer operational time in space, to enable extended missions.

The P120C motor will do double service, with either two or four units acting as strap-on boosters for Ariane 6. Sharing this component streamlines industrial efficiency and improves cost-effectiveness of both launchers.

With its larger main stages and bigger fairing – which doubles the payload volume compared to Vega – Vega-C measures 34.8 m high, nearly 5 m taller than Vega.

The new launcher configuration delivers a significant improvement in launch system flexibility. Vega-C can orbit larger satellites, two main payloads or accommodate various arrangements for rideshare missions. ESA’s upcoming Space Rider return-to-Earth vehicle will be launched to orbit on Vega-C.

The precise orbital path of LARES-2 will be tracked by laser, from ground stations. The purpose of the mission is to measure the so-called frame-dragging effect, a distortion of space-time caused by the rotation of a massive body such as Earth as predicted by Einstein’s General Theory of Relativity. Its predecessor, the similar LARES, was the main payload on the 2012 inaugural flight of Vega.

Six CubeSats made a secondary payload package. AstroBio CubeSat (Italy) will test a solution for detecting biomolecules in space. Greencube (Italy) carries an experiment to grow plants in microgravity. ALPHA (Italy) aims to help understand phenomena related to Earth’s magnetosphere, such as the Northern and Southern Lights. 

Three other CubeSats – Trisat-R (Slovenia), MTCube-2 (France) and Celesta (France) will study the effects of a harsh radiation environment on electronic systems.

https://www.esa.int/Enabling_Support/Space_Transportation/Vega/Vega-C_successfully_completes_inaugural_flight
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July 13, 2022

Following the success of the inaugural flight, Arianespace to start operations of Vega C with seven launchers already sold

- Following the success of its inaugural flight, Vega C will now begin its operational phase, under the responsibility of Arianespace, with a target of at least four launches per year and a fast-growing backlog that already includes 7 launches and 10 auxiliary payloads.

– Vega C is an upgrade to the Vega launcher and can better answer institutional and commercial customers’ needs. Thanks to its increased capabilities, Vega C will serve the burgeoning Earth observation market as well as long-term institutional and commercial needs.

– The first commercial launch of Vega C is scheduled in November 2022. The flight, designated VV22, will deliver Pléiades Neo 5 and 6, a pair of satellites wholly funded, manufactured and operated by Airbus.

On Wednesday, July 13 at 10:13 am local time in Kourou, French Guiana, the first Vega C, the new European launcher designed and manufactured by AVIO, was successfully launched under the supervision of ESA from the Guiana Space Center, Europe’s Spaceport in Kourou, French Guiana (South America).

“With this inaugural launch officially declared a success, Arianespace will now commence Vega C operations, a key milestone for European sovereign access to space. My warm congratulations on this success go to ESA, who operated this inaugural launch, as well as to Avio, who is responsible for the Vega C launch systems,” declared Stéphane Israël, CEO of Arianespace. “Vega C, with its increased capabilities and versatility, already allowed Arianespace to capture many important customers; we are confident this is only the beginning of a true success story! Its configuration, based on our customers’ needs, has been designed in alignment with our upcoming heavy launcher, Ariane 6. This is a first step towards the full renewal of our product range, which will allow us to honor our motto: any mass, any orbit, anytime!”

Seven Vega C have been already filled and will serve both institutional and commercial missions:

Among the institutional missions we recall: Sentinel-1C that will be launched for ESA on behalf of the European Commission; FLEX and ALTIUS, two ESA programs at the service of the environment; CSG 3 that is developed by Thales Alenia Space for the benefit of the Italian Space Agency (ASI) and Italian MoD; PLATiNO 2 that is developed by SITAEL for ASI; and Microcarb contracted by the European Commission on behalf of CNES;

Among the main commercial missions: Pléiades Néo constellation composed of 4 satellites for Airbus Defence and Space; KOMPSAT 7 for KARI (Korean Aerospace Research Institute); Theos-2 manufactured by Airbus Defence and Space for the Geo-Informatics and Space Technology Development Agency of Thailand; and Formosat-7R manufactured by NSPO for Taiwan;
Multiple small spacecraft missions are already contracted by Arianespace and will complete most of the Vega C flight configurations thanks to the modular SSMS (Small Spacecraft Mission Service) adaptation systems.

First in the series, Vega C Flight VV22 is planned in November 2022. With this flight, Arianespace will orbit Pléiades Neo 5 and 6, two additional satellites that will join Airbus’ Earth observation Pléaides constellation. With 30cm-native-resolution, best-in-class geolocation accuracy and twice-a-day revisit capability, the four Pléiades Neo satellites unlock new possibilities with the

ultimate in reactivity. The satellite constellation has been fully funded and manufactured by its operator Airbus, whose team will also operate the satellites and sell services to commercial customers.

Vega C, which stands for Consolidation, will better respond to customers’ needs based on the lessons learned from the first decade (2012-2022) of Vega operations. The launcher has been upgraded with more powerful first and second stage Solid Rocket Motors, the first SRM being shared with Ariane 6 (where it will be used as a side booster), and with a larger fairing that will significantly increase payload mass (up to 2,350 T in SSO) and double allowable volume. This performance increase will allow Vega C to launch larger radar satellites of the class of Sentinel 1C, part of Copernicus program, previously flown on Soyuz. The launcher will also be able to better meet the specific needs of small spacecraft, thanks to its improved SSMS dispenser and to its AVUM+ that will allow seven re-ignitions instead of five. Vega C can thus achieve three reference orbits for its multiple payloads on the same mission, instead of the two previously possible with Vega.

Vega C development program is managed by ESA. It associates 12 of Member States of the Agency. Avio Spa (Colleferro, Italy) is the industrial prime contractor for both launch vehicle and interfacing ground infrastructure. Avio is also responsible for campaign operations and preparation of the launch vehicle up to lift-off. Avio hands over a “ready to fly” rocket to Arianespace, which sells the Vega C, prepares its missions, validates its flight worthiness, and operates it from Europe’s Spaceport in French Guiana. During launch campaigns, Arianespace works closely with CNES, the launch range authority at the European Spaceport in Kourou who is notably in charge of the satellite preparation facilities as well as the protection of populations.

https://www.arianespace.com/press-release/following-the-success-of-the-inaugural-flight-arianespace-to-start-operations-of-vega-c-with-seven-launchers-already-sold/
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LARES-2 (aka the disco ball) separation sequence from the AVUM+ camera:

https://twitter.com/vega_sts/status/1547230931341246470
Complimenti Avio, Arianespace, ASI e INFN! Grandissimi! Un successone per l'industria spaziale italiana.

After Vega's issues in VV15-17, such an uneventful launch was not a given - but they confidently showed how it's done. Welcome to the operational European rocket family, Vega-C.
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It can carry larger and heavier loads, up to an extra 800kg.

https://twitter.com/SpaceNosey/status/1547513806259191808

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Celestrak has 5 6 objects so far.

latest: https://celestrak.org/NORAD/elements/table.php?INTDES=2022-080

update: In the meantime 8 objects. Object A is slightly higher, presumably Lares-2.
The orbits of objects B to H are similar. 6 cubesats and AVUM+.
Shouldn't the AVUM have a different orbit after the last (5th) burn?
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After the first Vega launch VV01, an almost complete onboard video was released by ASI.
It would be nice if that would be released from this launch as well.
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