Author Topic: Soyuz-ST-A/Fregat-M VS24 - Falcon Eye 2 - December 2, 2020 (01:33 UTC)  (Read 45842 times)

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Falcon Eye 2

Cross-post; launcher swap from Vega to Soyuz; also new NET launch date:
https://twitter.com/nicolas_pillet/status/1199765606381305858
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ALERT INFO: Following the failure of VV15, the Emirates remove their Falcon Eye 2 from VEGA and ask @Arianespace to transfer it to Soyuz-ST. Launching no earlier than 20.02.2020.
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That's a short-lead LV swap!  IIRC (NSF post by jacqmans?), there are some/several Soyuz in external storage at Kourou.

Is a Fregat-M available on relatively short notice?  (I imagine so; or else the arrangements would not have been made as they are?)

How do we know this launch will use an ST-A and a Fregat-M?

Will the launch time of day be the same as for Falcon Eye 1, 01:53 UTC?  It would be if this satellite takes the place of the lost satellite, therefore launching into the same sun-synchronous orbit with the same local time descending node.
« Last Edit: 12/02/2020 08:54 pm by zubenelgenubi »
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Cross-post:
https://twitter.com/nicolas_pillet/status/1199765606381305858
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ALERT INFO: Following the failure of VV15, the Emirates remove their Falcon Eye 2 from VEGA and ask @Arianespace to transfer it to Soyuz-ST. Launching no earlier than 20.02.2020.
2019 is a typo
That's not a very unlogical choice from the UAE, Soyuz is one of the most reliable launch vehicles. But that would cost them about twice as much if they can't share the launch. Possibly there is also a problem that Russia would prefer offering the Soyuz launch via GK-Launch instead of via Starsem. Then a Soyuz 2.1v might be preferable above a Soyuz-2a.
Also for scheduling this is very difficult, the lead time for a launch is at least a year.
This is unfortunate for Arianespace, Avio and Europe's launch program.
But I'm not at all surprised Emirates is searching for an alternative, after their Vega launch failed after 14 successful launches.
Another alternative would be a PSLV launch, that would be a little bit more expansive than a Vega. But a failed launch is much more expansive than a more expansive launch. AFAIK they their launch will be delayed further if they swap launcher.

Would SpaceX be allowed by de government to offer a launch option.
Then the other question becomes are Airbus/ Arianegroup willing to permit launching FalconEye2 on another launcher. This really became a political mess.
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SFN Launch Schedule update of December 12:
Falcon Eye 2 launch in early March 2020, at approximately 0153 UTC (same launch time as Falcon Eye 1).
« Last Edit: 12/13/2019 04:00 am by zubenelgenubi »
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Another alternative would be a PSLV launch, that would be a little bit more expansive than a Vega. But a failed launch is much more expansive than a more expansive launch
For Falcon eye, with a single satellite insured for 400M€ launch cost is no object.
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Cross-post:
https://www.dlr.de/rd/desktopdefault.aspx/tabid-4926/8178_read-47363/
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Nr.    Version      Flug       Startdatum       Nutzlast(en)   Bemerkung

24  Sojus STA    VS24    6.3.2020 (tbc)   Falcon Eye 2    02:33 dt. Zeit
02:33 CET = 0133 UTC
« Last Edit: 01/07/2020 09:14 pm by zubenelgenubi »
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Any news? I concede official coverage will be sparse, as the payload is, in essence, classified.
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Yes, this is the 100th orbital flight of a Soyuz 2, and the 101st if we count the suborbital launch of Soyuz 2.1a in 2004.
It will be the 1860th orbital R-7 to be launched.

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do we have the serial numbers for these Soyuz and Fregat?

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Observation sites closed at CSG due to coronavirus:

https://twitter.com/DutchSpace/status/1235209081956290566
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CNES-CSG, no payload:


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WESTERN NORTH ATLANTIC.
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C. 0033Z TO 0204Z DAILY 06 MAR THRU 05 APR
IN AREA BOUND BY
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Source: Soyuz-ST launch with Kourou postponed for a day due to problems in the upper stage

The launch of the launch vehicle was scheduled for the morning of March 6 (evening of March 5 in French Guiana)

MOSCOW, March 5. / TASS /. The launch of the UAE satellite Falcon Eye 2 on the Soyuz-ST launch vehicle from the Kourou space center in French Guiana was postponed for a day for technical reasons. This was announced on Thursday by TASS a source in the rocket and space industry.

The launch of the Soyuz-ST launch vehicle with the Frigate booster was scheduled for Friday morning (Thursday evening in French Guiana).

“The launch of the Soyuz is currently postponed for a day. According to preliminary information, there are problems in the overclocking unit,” the source said.

The source clarified that the launch can be postponed for a longer period. The final decision will be made after repeating the general missile tests.

Earlier, space flight operator Arianespace announced at least three planned launches using Russian Soyuz rockets from the Kourou Cosmodrome. Next in the list is the launch of the second military satellite for France, CSO-2 (the first was launched in December 2019 by the Soyuz ST-A rocket). Arianespace also expects to launch two more batches of OneWeb satellites into orbit in 2020 using Soyuz from the Kourou spaceport.

https://tass.ru/kosmos/7907867
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MOSCOW, March 5. / TASS /. The transfer of the launch of the Soyuz-ST launch vehicle from the Kourou Cosmodrome in French Guiana from March 6 to 7 is associated with problems in one of the cables of the Fregat booster block. This was reported by TASS on Thursday by a source in the rocket and space industry.

“During the pre-launch checks of the electric equipment of the launch vehicle, a problem was revealed in one of the cables of the booster block,” the source said.

https://tass.ru/kosmos/7907867

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Some views of the VS-24 transfer on the launch pad. The photos are taken by the "Service optique du CNES" of course.

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Someone from the CSG told me that the flight was postponed to April 10. The launcher will be brought back to the MiK, and the Fregat replaced by the one that should have taken off on VS-25.
So, the launch of VS-25 will not take place before mid-April/May.
The VS-24 Fregat will return to Russia.

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