Author Topic: SpaceX F9 : OneWeb F17 (40x) : CCSFS SLC-40 : Mar 9, 2023 (19:13 UTC) (Read 34461 times)

Bean Kenobi · « **Reply #20 on:** 02/23/2023 09:29 am »

Quote from: striver on 02/23/2023 06:22 am

Minimum time for pad turnaround - 5.15 days for CCSFS SLC-40 and for ASAD - 8.15 days. I believe that current limiting factor is not pad turnaround.

Quote from: striver on 02/23/2023 06:45 am

And where do you expect booster would land? By Nextspaceflight's info 1st stage of OneWeb mission is landing on ASAD , not on land.

What do you mean by "ASAD", please ?

striver · « **Reply #21 on:** 02/23/2023 10:08 am »

SpaceX said that customers have higher priorities over their launches (and marked their word in the past). They have to postpone the current mission for at least 5 days because of the drone's turnaround time. I haven't seen cases where ASDS could run faster than at least 7 days between 2 launches. That is why I assume that Starlink 6-1 won't launch till at least the 17th of March. They have 4 customer missions in the nearest 2 weeks from Florida - Crew-5, OneWeb-17, CRS-27, and SES-18/19. They won't push NASA's missions (it is the highest priority) - that is out of the table. So OneWeb and SES. If the current mission is ready to fly on the 1st of March, SpaceX will launch them. Further, they would have the opportunity to launch Starlink 6-1 NET (2023-02-27 + 7 days ASDS TO) 6th of March (closer to the 7th). But we have SES mission which is planned for the 9th of March. 3 days is not enough. Another pair of pads and drones were booked for CRS mission on the 11th of March. In conclusion, I propose options for the next 5 launches from the eastern cost (from higher to lower rate of assumption):
1. Crew-6 (2023-02-27), OneWeb (2023-03-0109), SES-18 (2023-03-0915), CRS-27 (2023-03-11) and Starlink 6-1 (2023-03-17).
2. Crew-6 (2023-02-27), Starlink 6-1 (2023-02-28), OneWeb (2023-03-0709), CRS-27 (2023-03-11) and SES-18 (2023-03-1615).
3. Starlink 6-1 (2023-02-267), Crew-5 (2023-023-2802), OneWeb (2023-03-0609), CRS-27 (2023-03-11) and SES-18 (2023-03-1415).
I prefer 2nd option.
*modified 2023-03-02

striver · « **Reply #22 on:** 02/23/2023 10:10 am »

Quote from: Bean Kenobi on 02/23/2023 09:29 am

What do you mean by "ASAD", please ?

My bad, shoud be ASDS.

crandles57 · « **Reply #23 on:** 02/23/2023 11:47 am »

Quote from: striver on 02/23/2023 10:08 am

In conclusion I propose options for the next 5 launches from the eastern cost (from higher to lower rate of assumtion):
1. Crew-56 (2023-02-27), OneWeb (2023-03-01), SES-18 (2023-03-09), CRS-27 (2023-03-11) and Starlink 6-1 (2023-03-17).
2. Crew-56 (2023-02-27), Starlink 6-1 (2023-02-28), OneWeb (2023-03-07), SES-18 (2023-03-09) and CRS-27 (2023-03-11). ?how?
3. Starlink 6-1 (2023-02-26), Crew-56 (2023-02-28),
OneWeb (2023-03-06), CRS-27 (2023-03-11) and SES-18 (2023-03-14).
I would prefer 2nd option.

If they were going to your option 1 or 2 then announcing 26th Feb date for 6-1 does not make much sense. That seems to make those seem less likely despite 3 prioritising Starlink over external customers.

Your preferred option 2 has launches 7th 9th and 11th if they all require droneships this seems difficult to achieve and CRS-27 to ISS will be highest priority after crew-6.

AFAICS that leaves options as:

A. Starlink 6-1 (2023-02-26), Crew-6 (2023-02-287), OneWeb (2023-03-06), CRS-27 (2023-03-11) and SES-18 (2023-03-14).

B. Crew-6 (2023-02-27), OneWeb (2023-03-01), SES-18 (2023-03-09), CRS-27 (2023-03-11) and Starlink 6-1 (2023-03-17).

(A is a minor change to your 3, perhaps a typo. B is your 1)

A seems more likely than B because 26th announced, B prioritises external launches

striver · « **Reply #24 on:** 02/23/2023 12:11 pm »

Quote from: crandles57 on 02/23/2023 11:47 am

If they were going to your option 1 or 2 then announcing 26th Feb date for 6-1 does not make much sense.

This is what SpaceX said:
https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1628581684898861059?s=20

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Team is completing pre-flight checkouts and setting up for no earlier than Sunday, February 26 for launch of Starlink; launch of Crew-6, which has priority, is currently targeted for Monday, February 27

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Your preferred option 2 has launches 7th 9th and 11th if they all require droneships this seems difficult to achieve and CRS-27 to ISS will be highest priority after crew-6.

Oh, yeah... SES should be shifed to right - NET 16th of March.

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A seems more likely than B because 26th announced, B prioritises external launches

Yes, it would be logical, but SpaceX has another plan
https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1628581686811459589?s=20

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If weather and all other aspects of Crew-6 are go, we’ll stand down from Sunday’s launch attempt of Starlink

and I don't understand why they just can't launch Starlink mission 1 day prior to the Crew-6. Well I could guess that they are too busy with Dragon's mission.

GewoonLukas_ · « **Reply #25 on:** 02/23/2023 12:20 pm »

Quote from: striver on 02/23/2023 12:11 pm

Quote from: crandles57 on 02/23/2023 11:47 am
If they were going to your option 1 or 2 then announcing 26th Feb date for 6-1 does not make much sense.
This is what SpaceX said:
https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1628581684898861059?s=20
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Team is completing pre-flight checkouts and setting up for no earlier than Sunday, February 26 for launch of Starlink; launch of Crew-6, which has priority, is currently targeted for Monday, February 27
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Your preferred option 2 has launches 7th 9th and 11th if they all require droneships this seems difficult to achieve and CRS-27 to ISS will be highest priority after crew-6.
Oh, yeah... SES should be shifed to right - NET 16th of March.
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A seems more likely than B because 26th announced, B prioritises external launches
Yes, it would be logical, but SpaceX has another plan
https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1628581686811459589?s=20
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If weather and all other aspects of Crew-6 are go, we’ll stand down from Sunday’s launch attempt of Starlink
and I don't understand why they just can't launch Starlink mission 1 day prior to the Crew-6. Well I could guess that they are too busy with Dragon's mission.

Time between the 2 launches would 12 hours and 33 minutes, which won't be a problem for 2 regular satellite launches. But since Crew-6 is a crewed mission, where human lives are involved, SpaceX doesn't want any distraction from making absolutely sure that everything is right for Crew-6.

But let's stay on topic --> OneWeb Flight 17

GewoonLukas_ · « **Reply #26 on:** 02/23/2023 07:17 pm »

NextSpaceflight (Updated February 23rd)
Launch NET March 9th, 2023
https://nextspaceflight.com/launches/details/6987

FutureSpaceTourist · « **Reply #27 on:** 02/27/2023 11:05 am »

https://twitter.com/oneweb/status/1630174557507055616

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Introducing OneWeb’s mission patch for Launch #17 with @SpaceX.

The launch is our penultimate mission ahead of achieving global coverage, with a further launch with @isro and @NSIL_India anticipated soon after.

#OneWebLaunch17 🚀

crandles57 · « **Reply #28 on:** 02/27/2023 11:32 am »

Quote from: GewoonLukas_ on 02/22/2023 07:55 pm

NextSpaceflight lists droneship (A Shortfall Of Gravitas) landing, so this mission will be utilizing the ASDS option of the 2 FCC filings made for this launch. Possible rideshare payloads?? (this smells like Globalstar FM15)

https://nextspaceflight.com/launches/details/6987
Now saying "Landing Zone 1"

Rideshare off on off ?

Galactic Penguin SST · « **Reply #29 on:** 02/27/2023 04:08 pm »

SFN now has it on March 9, 19:05 UTC = 2:05 pm EST.

zubenelgenubi · « **Reply #30 on:** 02/28/2023 12:45 am »

Which first stage will be used for this launch?

1052.8 and 1053.3 are manifested to be expended on the ViaSat-3 Americas launch.

1060.16 is presumably still involved in its "deep-dive examination?"

Available first stages, with most recent recovery date:
1058.16 Dec 17 (perhaps being held back until the examination of 1060.16 is complete?)
1067.10 Jan 26
1069.6 Feb 2
1073.7 Feb 6 (currently expected to be undergoing conversion to a Falcon Heavy side booster)
1062.13 Feb 12

Edit March 2: 1067.10?

Edit March 3: 1073.7!

Edit March 8: 1062.13!

zubenelgenubi · « **Reply #31 on:** 03/03/2023 06:40 pm »

First stage 1073.7 for this launch.

Quote from: FutureSpaceTourist on 03/03/2023 06:20 pm

https://twitter.com/alexphysics13/status/1631735815154925585

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Two Falcon Heavy side boosters in F9 clothing as seen on Space Coast Live cams at KSC and Port Canaveral.

B1073, lower left cam, heading to SLC-40 for the OneWeb-17 launch next week.

B1076, lower right cam, being processed at Port after Starlink 6-1.

nsf.live/spacecoast

Ken the Bin · « **Reply #32 on:** 03/04/2023 12:37 pm »

NGA notice.

Quote from: NGA

041154Z MAR 23
NAVAREA IV 236/23(11,26).
STRAITS OF FLORIDA.
WESTERN NORTH ATLANTIC.
FLORIDA.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, ROCKET LAUNCHING
   091905Z TO 091950Z MAR, ALTERNATE 
   101901Z TO 101945Z, 111856Z TO 111940Z, 
   121851Z TO 121935Z, 131846Z TO 131930Z, 
   141841Z TO 141925Z AND 151836Z TO 151921Z MAR
   IN AREAS BOUND BY:
   A. 28-38.39N 080-37.25W, 28-39.00N 080-31.00W,
      28-36.00N 080-23.00W, 28-18.00N 080-13.00W,
      28-06.00N 080-09.00W, 28-13.00N 080-25.00W,
      28-26.40N 080-33.44W.
   B. 27-08.00N 079-51.00W, 27-10.00N 079-48.00W,
      26-57.00N 079-42.00W, 26-55.00N 079-45.00W.
   C. 25-36.00N 079-31.00W, 25-44.00N 079-23.00W,
      25-21.00N 079-10.00W, 24-44.00N 079-02.00W,
      24-44.00N 079-15.00W.
2. CANCEL THIS MSG 152021Z MAR 23.

OneSpeed · « **Reply #33 on:** 03/05/2023 06:16 am »

Quote from: Ken the Bin on 03/04/2023 12:37 pm

NGA notice.

LHA maps from the NGA notice. The first map shows the area for booster splashdown if the boostback burn fails. The second shows the fairing recovery area. I have included the ASDS coordinates mentioned here: https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=45440.msg2450846#msg2450846 as a blue and white point for reference.

Ken the Bin · « **Reply #34 on:** 03/06/2023 02:13 pm »

L-3 weather forecast. 95% 'Go' for March 9. 85% 'Go' for March 10. All Additional Risk Criteria are Low.

Ken the Bin · « **Reply #35 on:** 03/06/2023 10:48 pm »

NGA Space Debris notice.

Quote from: NGA

062229Z MAR 23
HYDROPAC 758/23(61).
INDIAN OCEAN.
DNC 03.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, SPACE DEBRIS
   2045Z TO 2200Z DAILY 09 THRU 15 MAR 
   IN AREA BOUND BY
   20-58.00S 066-09.00E, 20-56.00S 064-27.00E,
   44-35.00S 063-35.00E, 44-37.00S 065-49.00E.
2. CANCEL THIS MSG 152300Z MAR 23.

Ken the Bin · « **Reply #36 on:** 03/06/2023 11:21 pm »

Here's another NGA Space Debris notice. The previous one above was stage 2 reentry. This one, though not a cancel-and-replace, appears to update and supplement the Rocket Launching notice.

Quote from: NGA

062336Z MAR 23
NAVAREA IV 246/23(26,27).
OLD BAHAMA CHANNEL.
STRAITS OF FLORIDA.
BAHAMAS.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, SPACE DEBRIS:
   A. 091905Z TO 091950Z MAR, ALTERNATE
      101901Z TO 101945Z, 111856Z TO 111940Z,
      121851Z TO 121935Z, 131846Z TO 131930Z,
      141841Z TO 141925Z AND 151836Z TO 151921Z MAR
      IN AREA BOUND BY
      25-36.00N 079-31.00W, 25-44.00N 079-23.00W,
      25-21.00N 079-10.00W, 24-44.00N 079-02.00W,
      24-44.00N 079-15.00W.
   B. 091905Z TO 092011Z JAN, ALTERNATE
      101901Z TO 102006Z, 111856Z TO 112001Z,
      121851Z TO 121956Z, 131846Z TO 131951Z,
      141841Z TO 141946Z AND 151836Z TO 151942Z MAR
      IN AREA BOUND BY
      23-24.00N 079-30.00W, 23-33.00N 079-22.00W,
      23-39.00N 079-11.00W, 23-39.00N 078-57.00W,
      23-31.00N 078-41.00W, 23-18.00N 078-39.00W,
      23-06.00N 078-47.00W, 23-02.00N 079-01.00W,
      23-12.00N 079-29.00W.
2. CANCEL THIS MSG 152042Z MAR 23.

OneSpeed · « **Reply #37 on:** 03/07/2023 12:33 am »

Quote from: Ken the Bin on 03/06/2023 10:48 pm

NGA Space Debris notice.

Quote from: Ken the Bin on 03/06/2023 11:21 pm

Here's another NGA Space Debris notice. The previous one above was stage 2 reentry. This one, though not a cancel-and-replace, appears to update and supplement the Rocket Launching notice.

Maps from the Space Debris notices.

Ken the Bin · « **Reply #38 on:** 03/07/2023 02:02 pm »

L-2 weather forecast. 95% 'Go' for March 9. 85% 'Go' for March 10. All Additional Risk Criteria are Low.

FutureSpaceTourist · « **Reply #39 on:** 03/07/2023 05:37 pm »

https://twitter.com/spaceoffshore/status/1633174645573558276

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SpaceX recovery ship Bob has departed Port Canaveral and is heading south down the polar corridor to position itself to recover the fairing for the upcoming OneWeb #17 mission.

The booster will RTLS to LZ-1, CCSFS.