Author Topic: Yaogan-36 Group 03 - CZ-2D - Xichang - November 27, 2022 (12:23 UTC)  (Read 7852 times)

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The CZ-2D will be launched from Xichang in November 24 from travel firms source.
« Last Edit: 11/28/2022 03:35 pm by input~2 »

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Re: ? - CZ-2D - Xichang - November 24, 2022
« Reply #1 on: 11/16/2022 11:01 am »
The payloads might be as below:
Yaogan-36 03A(遥感三十六号03A)
Yaogan-36 03B(遥感三十六号03B)
Yaogan-36 03C(遥感三十六号03C)

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Re: Yaogan-36 03A-C - CZ-2D - Xichang - November 24, 2022
« Reply #2 on: 11/18/2022 02:31 am »
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A6504/22 NOTAMN
Q) RCAA/QXXXX/IV/BO/E/000/999/2214N11759E052
A) RCAA B) 2211242200 C) 2211280200
D) 2200-0200
E) AIRSPACE BLOCKED DUE TO AEROSPACE FLIGHT ACTIVITY:
1. AFFECTED RTE:
R200 /T1 TRANSITION/ J1 TRANSITION SUSPENDED,
A1 BTN KADLO AND ELATO,
M750 BTN ENVAR AND RENOT,
G581 BTN PARPA AND ELATO,
2. AREA AS FLW:
GEO:
213400N 1183300E
221400N 1170400E
225400N 1172400E
221300N 1185400E
213400N 1183300E
F) SFC G) UNL
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A6507/22 NOTAMN
Q) RCAA/QARLT/IV/NBO/E/000/999/2502N12039E298
A) RCAA B) 2211242110 C) 2211280200
D) 2110-0200
E) DUE TO AEROSPACE FLIGHT ACTIVITY, ALTN RTE FOR A1/M750/G581/R200
ARE ESTABLISHED FOR DEP/ARR FLIGHTS WITHIN TAIPEI FIR.
1. DEP FLIGHTS:
 (1) RCTP DEP:
     DEP RTE GABBY PARPA ANDRE G86 KAPLI (A1/T1/G86)
     DEP RTE MKG A1 EXPECT RADAR VECTOR TO OLDID (R200)
 (2) RCSS/RCMQ DEP:
     DEP RTE TNN A577 PARPA ANDRE G86 KAPLI (A1/T1/G86)
     DEP RTE MKG A1 EXPECT RADAR VECTOR TO OLDID (R200)
 (3) RCKH DEP:
     DEP RTE PARPA ANDRE G86 KAPLI (G581)
     DEP RTE TNN W6 MKG A1 EXPECT RADAR VECTOR TO OLDID (R200)
2. ARR FLIGHTS:
 (1) RCTP/RCSS/RCMQ ARR:
     KAPLI G86 A577 TNN (A1/M750/G86)
     OLDID EXPECT RADAR VECTOR TO JOIN M750/A1 (R200)
 (2) RCKH ARR:
     KAPLI G86 A577 PARPA (G581)
     OLDID EXPECT RADAR VECTOR TO JOIN M750/A1 W6 TNN (R200)
FOR DETAILS, CONTACT TAIPEI ACC AT +886 3 3841040.
RMK: REF NOTAM A6504/22
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A6508/22 NOTAMN
Q) RCAA/QARLT/IV/NBO/E/000/999/2502N12039E298
A) RCAA B) 2211242130 C) 2211280200
D) 2130-0200
E) ALTN RTE FOR A1/M750/G581 ARE ESTABLISHED FOR TRANSIT FLIGHTS DUE
TO
AEROSPACE FLIGHT ACTIVITY.
1.A1: A1 APU B1 ANLOT W4 TNN A577 G86 KAPLI AND VICE VERSA.
2.M750: KAPLI G86 ANDRE A577 TNN W4 ANLOT M750
        KAPLI G86 ANDRE A577 TNN W4 ANLOT B1 APU A1 DRAKE Q11 LIPLO
        KAPLI G86 HCN J7 Q13 IGURU
3.G581: KAPLI G86 HCN J7 Q13 IGURU (EAST BOUND)
  G581: IGURU Q13 J7 HCN G86 KAPLI (WEST BOUND)
RMK: REF NOTAM A6504/22
« Last Edit: 11/18/2022 02:48 am by mikezang »

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Well, the NOTAMed area is not what I'd expect for CZ-2D.
A similar area was in use on 30 May 2020 with CZ-11 / XJS-G, XJS-H.
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Well, the NOTAMed area is not what I'd expect for CZ-2D.
A similar area was in use on 30 May 2020 with CZ-11 / XJS-G, XJS-H.
You are right that route is similar with CZ-11 on that day.
My question is it is possible the new CZ-2D route use the same route as the past CZ-11?
The CZ-2D on 24 might be another launch, only China NOTAM in that case, we can wait for that NOTAM next week.
« Last Edit: 11/18/2022 06:33 am by mikezang »

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My guess is that A6504/22 is in fact related to https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=57649.0 and not to the known CZ-2D at all.
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My guess is that A6504/22 is in fact related to https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=57649.0 and not to the known CZ-2D at all.
But the time span is different, unless which one is mistake.

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My guess is that A6504/22 is in fact related to https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=57649.0 and not to the known CZ-2D at all.
But the time span is different, unless which one is mistake.
I'd bet on CZ-11 (or KZ-1A) on 25 Nov 2022 at 07:58 UTC :-)
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My guess is that A6504/22 is in fact related to https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=57649.0 and not to the known CZ-2D at all.
But the time span is different, unless which one is mistake.
I'd bet on CZ-11 (or KZ-1A) on 25 Nov 2022 at 07:58 UTC :-)
Wait and see, it will be clear next week:)

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I guess the CZ-2D will be launched on 24 with NOTAM from Chian in next week, and CZ-11 will be launched on 25 at 07:20 UTC with NOTAMs from NFFF and RCAA (with mistake time).

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Re: Yaogan-36 03A-C - CZ-2D - Xichang - November 24, 2022
« Reply #10 on: 11/18/2022 09:16 am »
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A3137/22 NOTAMN
Q) ZPKM/QRDCA/IV/BO/W/000/999/2815N10202E006
A) ZPKM B) 2211241338 C) 2211241359
E) A TEMPORARY DANGER AREA ESTABLISHED CENTERED AT N2815E10202
WITH RADIUS OF 10KM. VERTICAL LIMITS:SFC-UNL.
F) SFC G) UNL
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A3138/22 NOTAMN
Q) ZPKM/QRDCA/IV/BO/W/000/999/2649N10744E014
A) ZPKM B) 2211241340 C) 2211241402
E) A TEMPORARY DANGER AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY:
N2651E10759-N2640E10755-N2647E10728-N2658E10732 BACK TO START.
VERTICAL LIMITS:SFC-UNL.
F) SFC G) UNL
This is for CZ-2D. I asked them to open today:)
« Last Edit: 11/18/2022 09:45 am by mikezang »

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Re: Yaogan-36 03A-C - CZ-2D - Xichang - November 24, 2022
« Reply #11 on: 11/18/2022 09:33 am »
Thank you. Launch at 21:50 UTC is optimal for Plane 1 where YG-35 01 and YG-36 01 are now.
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Re: Yaogan-36 03A-C - CZ-2D - Xichang - November 24, 2022
« Reply #12 on: 11/18/2022 09:43 am »
Thank you. Launch at 21:50 UTC is optimal for Plane 1 where YG-35 01 and YG-36 01 are now.
So it might be Yaogan-37 01?!

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Thank you. Launch at 21:50 UTC is optimal for Plane 1 where YG-35 01 and YG-36 01 are now.
So it might be Yaogan-37 01?!
Exactly what I said to myself :-)
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A1151/22 NOTAMN
Q) VHHK/QARCR/IV/NBO/E /000/999/2003N11500E214
A) VHHK B) 2211242110 C) 2211280200
D) 2110-0200
E) DUE TO AN AEROSPACE FLIGHT ACTIVITY (REFER TO NOTAM A6504/22
ORIGINATED BY RCTPYNYX). ALTN RTE FOR A1/M750/G581 ARE ESTABLISHED
FOR DEP/ARR FLIGHTS WITHIN HONG KONG FIR.
1. DEP FLIGHTS (AS STIPULATED IN AIP HONG KONG) :
 (1) VHHH DEP:
     OCEAN V4 SKATE DCT KAPLI G86
 (2) VMMC DEP:
     GRUPA DCT KAPLI G86
2. ARR FLIGHTS:
 (1) VHHH ARR:
     KAPLI DCT SONNY V532 BETTY
 (2) VMMC ARR:
     KAPLI DCT ISBAN J103 ROBIN DCT CHALI
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A1152/22 NOTAMN
Q) VHHK/QARCR/IV/NBO/E /000/999/2003N11500E214
A) VHHK B) 2211242110 C) 2211280200
D) 2110-0200
E) DUE TO AN AEROSPACE FLIGHT ACTIVITY (REFER TO NOTAM A6504/22
ORIGINATED BY RCTPYNYX). ALTN RTE FOR A1/M750/G581 ARE ESTABLISHED
FOR TRANSIT FLIGHTS WITHIN HONG KONG FIR.
1. EAST BOUND:
 (1) ZGGG DEP:
     SIERA DCT MULET DCT SKATE DCT KAPLI G86
 (2) ALL TRAFFIC EXCEPT ZGGG DEP:
     TAMOT B330 CH DCT RASSE DCT KAPLI G86
     IKELA DCT MORTU DCT NOBAD DCT KAPLI G86
2. WEST BOUND:
 (1) ZGGG ARR:
     KAPLI DCT ISBAN J103 SAPAX DCT CH B330 TAMOT
 (2) ALL TRAFFIC EXCEPT ZGGG ARR:
     KAPLI DCT LEGOD DCT BEKOL A461
These two NOTAMs are for this launch.

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Re: Yaogan-36 03A-C - CZ-2D - Xichang - November 24, 2022
« Reply #15 on: 11/23/2022 02:04 am »
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A3137/22 NOTAMN
Q) ZPKM/QRDCA/IV/BO/W/000/999/2815N10202E006
A) ZPKM B) 2211241338 C) 2211241359
E) A TEMPORARY DANGER AREA ESTABLISHED CENTERED AT N2815E10202
WITH RADIUS OF 10KM. VERTICAL LIMITS:SFC-UNL.
F) SFC G) UNL
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A3138/22 NOTAMN
Q) ZPKM/QRDCA/IV/BO/W/000/999/2649N10744E014
A) ZPKM B) 2211241340 C) 2211241402
E) A TEMPORARY DANGER AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY:
N2651E10759-N2640E10755-N2647E10728-N2658E10732 BACK TO START.
VERTICAL LIMITS:SFC-UNL.
F) SFC G) UNL
This is for CZ-2D. I asked them to open today:)
These two are removed, launch might be cancled?

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It is said delay to November 30 from internal source, maybe 8am local time.

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Looks like it pushed to the left.

A3236/22 - A TEMPORARY DANGER AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY:
N2651E10759-N2640E10755-N2647E10728-N2658E10732 BACK TO START.
VERTICAL LIMITS:SFC-UNL. SFC - UNL, 27 NOV 12:12 2022 UNTIL 27 NOV 12:38 2022.
CREATED: 25 NOV 14:48 2022
   
A3235/22 - A TEMPORARY DANGER AREA ESTABLISHED CENTERED AT N2815E10202
WITH RADIUS OF 10KM. VERTICAL LIMITS:SFC-UNL. SFC - UNL, 27 NOV 12:10 2022 UNTIL
27 NOV 12:35 2022. CREATED: 25 NOV 14:46 2022

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Optimal lainch time for Plane 1 is 12:24 UTC.
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NOTAM of the Long March 2D launch of 3rd group of three Yaogan-36 is back, which suggests liftoff at ~12:20UTC on November 27 from Xichang Satellite Launch Center in Sichuan

https://twitter.com/CNSpaceflight/status/1596665130888364033

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